Last Rites for Win9x

....undertakers are preapring lots of wooden boxes and little X's

regards, richard


"sf" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:58:03 -0800, Gary S. Terhune wrote:

I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in case...

So what does this announcement mean for this ng?

I wouldn't know. General Discussion is always a safe bet for high traffic,
high noise to signal ratio... Otherwise, I don't spend any time in XP
groups, so I couldn't say. Perhaps others will chime in here.

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Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Anthony Buckland" wrote in message
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For those of us contemplating, with whatever misgivings,
moving on to XP, what groups are good to start with?

I just did a bit of an update to that page on the new site

Remember that this site is all new so don't waste time trying to browse it.
Most of the pages have to be rebuilt to the new scheme before I upload them.
http://practicallynerded.mvps.org

click on Windows at the top and then Windows 98 on the Windows contents pane.
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Bindar Dundat©
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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| Wow! I managed to miss that the first time around!
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| Hey, George. Howsit?
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| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
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| "Bindar Dundat" wrote in message
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| And let us not forget this goodie from about 2½ years ago.
| http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/Wi...98/98Death.htm
| --
| George
| "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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| | My own experience is that if your system can handle it easily, move to
| | WinXP. Learning the NT system on Win2K can be daunting. With XP, it's
| quite
| | a bit more idiot-proofed -- which in this case is a good thing.
| |
| | Or hobble along until Vista has the kinks worked out, then buy a
| spanking
| | new system. Myself, while I'll remain a Win98 MVP forever (God Willing)
| I
| | hope to move into Vista Support later this year, also.
| |
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS MVP Shell/User
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If you're going to Vista, send me an Email and I will send you the Vista desktop
wallpaper. eg

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Bindar Dundat©
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
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| Hard to say... But MS has a much different set of rules for NGs. They are
| retired as people stop using them. An NG has to be moribund for several
| months before they even consider canceling it.
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| I would expect that in a year or three, some of the Win98 NGs will be
| retired. But this one and the other active ones will likely be here long
| after XP has reached end-of-life-- and I for one am staying here for the
| duration even if I start also participating in Vista forums.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
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| "sf" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 12:58:03 -0800, Gary S. Terhune wrote:
|
| I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in case...
|
| So what does this announcement mean for this ng?
|
|

Please do! Can't wait! The email I use here is valid.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Bindar Dundat" 127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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If you're going to Vista, send me an Email and I will send you the Vista
desktop
wallpaper. eg

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I wouldn't know. General Discussion is always a safe bet for high traffic,
high noise to signal ratio... Otherwise, I don't spend any time in XP
groups, so I couldn't say. Perhaps others will chime in here.

Sounds good, I'll start with basics, general and newusers
now that I've had a look at the (long) list. Thanks.

PCR wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message ...
| PCR wrote:
| "Dan" wrote in message ...
| | PCR wrote:
| | Me 'n Colorado are sworn to wait for it to turn to dust! I KNOW he broke his word, though, ran JUST the XP tester & ended up with purple toes! Now, he is back & healing. Poatt too!
| |
| |
| | Do you think you will install Vista or is it too early to tell.
|
| Not until I have to! But, yea, I won't resist that one on the day Win98 crumbles to dust. I even suppose there is one chance in 1,073,741,824 that XP will prove to be the better OS, though, & I'd go for it, instead-- & take 12 pills a day for the radiation!
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| LOL I have both since I dual-boot and I prefer 98SE although you can do
| more with XP.

You can! But it won't be long before you get XP-eyes! You'll only see things on the opposite side of every wall, like poatt! That's OK for him, though. He's got his son over there telling him what's on his side.

What should I do then? chuckles

"Dan" wrote in message ...
| PCR wrote:
| "Dan" wrote in message ...
| | PCR wrote:
| | "Dan" wrote in message ...
| | | PCR wrote:
| | | Me 'n Colorado are sworn to wait for it to turn to dust! I KNOW he broke his word, though, ran JUST the XP tester & ended up with purple toes! Now, he is back & healing. Poatt too!
| | |
| | |
| | | Do you think you will install Vista or is it too early to tell.
| |
| | Not until I have to! But, yea, I won't resist that one on the day Win98 crumbles to dust. I even suppose there is one chance in 1,073,741,824 that XP will prove to be the better OS, though, & I'd go for it, instead-- & take 12 pills a day for the radiation!
| |
| | LOL I have both since I dual-boot and I prefer 98SE although you can do
| | more with XP.
|
| You can! But it won't be long before you get XP-eyes! You'll only see things on the opposite side of every wall, like poatt! That's OK for him, though. He's got his son over there telling him what's on his side.
|
| What should I do then? chuckles

For every minute you sit at an XP-machine, sit 112 at the Win98! OTHERWISE, you must perish quicker than Anthrax poisoning, killer bird virus, OR Mad Cow's Disease can do!

"Richard G. Harper" wrote in
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In a word ... horse-hockey!

Services can be used for good and evil, exploited, even
overflowed and shut down; but Windows 9x will always be
less secure than any WinNT based operating system for one
lethal and uncorrectable problem - lack of security.

For example, on a WinNT based computer configured with
default settings, the NTFS file system locks the standard
user (and thus the programs, worms and viruses that user
might run) out of many potentially lethal areas of the hard
drive. The user may have read-only rights to these areas,
or no rights at all. Win9x - no such luck, the entire
drive is wide-open.

For another, the Registry. Again, WinNT systems give
standard users only limited access to most areas of the
Registry. Win9x - yeah, once again, wide open.

Oh, you want another? Okay. The WinNT kernel runs
programs in separate buckets so that one running program
cannot touch or corrupt the memory another program is
using. Not so in Win9x - any program can stomp all over
memory in use by any other, and can read the data that
program is processing.

Given a little more time (and coffee!) I could almost
surely come up with others but you get the idea here.
Win9x was designed for an entirely different time - when
one computer was generally used by one user, either at home
where it was rarely exposed to the Internet or other
computers, or at work where security was handled by the IT
gurus, when the threats of today were no more than a
glimmer in someone's eye.

The time for Win9x has come and gone.


This is just one side of the story.

Since the design of Win 98, 911 occurred. Since the design of
Win 98, DRM has come and remains. Important design objectives
of XP addressed both of these goals by making it easier with
backdoors for governments to get into computers to "find Osama"
and for business interests to monitor and police what people are
doing on their computer.

The superior security mechanisms of XP by one hand to close it
up mean nothing when the other hand is opening it up.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
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I assume someone already posted this at least once. But
just in case...


Nearly fifteen years ago, they made a similar announcement for
DOS WordPerfect. No more support.

Today, thousands of users, especially in the legal profession,
continue to use it. It works and does what people need. You
can do things quicker and easier with the function key interface
instead of Windows dialog boxes. The Windows version still
doesn't do some things the DOS version does, relative movements
for one.

I see a similar pattern with Win98. "Alleged" manufacturer
support will prove to have limited relevance to what people
actually do.