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Sound Stutters
Still no lasting joy.
I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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Sound Stutters
'Scuse 'buttinski' - and I've missed some of the thread - but when you
'uninstalled' your onboard sound drivers, did you remember to disable it in the BIOS? Trying to run two or more sound devices at once can sometimes cause resource issues/conflicts. Just a thought. Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... Still no lasting joy. I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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Sound Stutters
Yes. Always disabled and drivers uninstalled except if I need to test
it. I have never used the onboard sound, preferring a separate sound card. My current problem seems independent of the card, Creative PCI512, Trust 714 DX and Audigy 2 NX (USB) all give the same symptoms. I use driver cleaner to remove any traces of uninstalled drivers. Stephen Mart wrote: 'Scuse 'buttinski' - and I've missed some of the thread - but when you 'uninstalled' your onboard sound drivers, did you remember to disable it in the BIOS? Trying to run two or more sound devices at once can sometimes cause resource issues/conflicts. Just a thought. Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... Still no lasting joy. I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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Sound Stutters
I don't know whether this is relevant but I have just discovered that I
can't play audio cds through either the CD ROM or the DVD ROM. Windows Media Player opens with an error message re digital audio. The Media Player Options/Tools/Devices lists the two players but will not open the Properties boxes. Device manager shows both devices working, DMA and Digital Audio enabled. Disabling digital audio makes no difference. This is with the on board Soundmax installed and enabled. I very rarely play music cds, but I have in the past. Stephen Stephen wrote: Yes. Always disabled and drivers uninstalled except if I need to test it. I have never used the onboard sound, preferring a separate sound card. My current problem seems independent of the card, Creative PCI512, Trust 714 DX and Audigy 2 NX (USB) all give the same symptoms. I use driver cleaner to remove any traces of uninstalled drivers. Stephen Mart wrote: 'Scuse 'buttinski' - and I've missed some of the thread - but when you 'uninstalled' your onboard sound drivers, did you remember to disable it in the BIOS? Trying to run two or more sound devices at once can sometimes cause resource issues/conflicts. Just a thought. Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... Still no lasting joy. I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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Sound Stutters
Certainly sounds like driver issues from here. Try Audio instead of Digital.
Any improvement? (You may have to run the audio cable between your CD-ROM and sound card) What about midi files? Try "flourish.mid" - in the Windows\Media folder (I think!) BTW - Green ? - Don't be too alarmed, see:- "Description of Green Question Mark in Device Manager" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;275012 But it *may* explain things. HTH Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... I don't know whether this is relevant but I have just discovered that I can't play audio cds through either the CD ROM or the DVD ROM. Windows Media Player opens with an error message re digital audio. The Media Player Options/Tools/Devices lists the two players but will not open the Properties boxes. Device manager shows both devices working, DMA and Digital Audio enabled. Disabling digital audio makes no difference. This is with the on board Soundmax installed and enabled. I very rarely play music cds, but I have in the past. Stephen Stephen wrote: Yes. Always disabled and drivers uninstalled except if I need to test it. I have never used the onboard sound, preferring a separate sound card. My current problem seems independent of the card, Creative PCI512, Trust 714 DX and Audigy 2 NX (USB) all give the same symptoms. I use driver cleaner to remove any traces of uninstalled drivers. Stephen Mart wrote: 'Scuse 'buttinski' - and I've missed some of the thread - but when you 'uninstalled' your onboard sound drivers, did you remember to disable it in the BIOS? Trying to run two or more sound devices at once can sometimes cause resource issues/conflicts. Just a thought. Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... Still no lasting joy. I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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Sound Stutters - addendum
.... Try Audio instead of Digital.
Was meant to imply that you disable the digital audio option and try the 'analogue' path over the audio cable, of course. - It had been a long day g Mart "Mart" wrote in message ... Certainly sounds like driver issues from here. Try Audio instead of Digital. Any improvement? (You may have to run the audio cable between your CD-ROM and sound card) What about midi files? Try "flourish.mid" - in the Windows\Media folder (I think!) BTW - Green ? - Don't be too alarmed, see:- "Description of Green Question Mark in Device Manager" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;275012 But it *may* explain things. HTH Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... I don't know whether this is relevant but I have just discovered that I can't play audio cds through either the CD ROM or the DVD ROM. Windows Media Player opens with an error message re digital audio. The Media Player Options/Tools/Devices lists the two players but will not open the Properties boxes. Device manager shows both devices working, DMA and Digital Audio enabled. Disabling digital audio makes no difference. This is with the on board Soundmax installed and enabled. I very rarely play music cds, but I have in the past. Stephen Stephen wrote: Yes. Always disabled and drivers uninstalled except if I need to test it. I have never used the onboard sound, preferring a separate sound card. My current problem seems independent of the card, Creative PCI512, Trust 714 DX and Audigy 2 NX (USB) all give the same symptoms. I use driver cleaner to remove any traces of uninstalled drivers. Stephen Mart wrote: 'Scuse 'buttinski' - and I've missed some of the thread - but when you 'uninstalled' your onboard sound drivers, did you remember to disable it in the BIOS? Trying to run two or more sound devices at once can sometimes cause resource issues/conflicts. Just a thought. Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... Still no lasting joy. I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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Sound Stutters - addendum
Thanks for the info on green ? It seems to fit my situation.
I am now running on the audigy2nx having uninstalled the device, software and disabled the onboard sound in the bios. The sound is still horrible but I have fixed the audio CD problem by reinstalling the ASPI files. Something must have overwritten some of them so they were mismatched. That just leaves the stutters! Stephen Mart wrote: .... Try Audio instead of Digital. Was meant to imply that you disable the digital audio option and try the 'analogue' path over the audio cable, of course. - It had been a long day g Mart "Mart" wrote in message ... Certainly sounds like driver issues from here. Try Audio instead of Digital. Any improvement? (You may have to run the audio cable between your CD-ROM and sound card) What about midi files? Try "flourish.mid" - in the Windows\Media folder (I think!) BTW - Green ? - Don't be too alarmed, see:- "Description of Green Question Mark in Device Manager" http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;275012 But it *may* explain things. HTH Mart "Stephen" wrote in message ... I don't know whether this is relevant but I have just discovered that I can't play audio cds through either the CD ROM or the DVD ROM. Windows Media Player opens with an error message re digital audio. The Media Player Options/Tools/Devices lists the two players but will not open the Properties boxes. Device manager shows both devices working, DMA and Digital Audio enabled. Disabling digital audio makes no difference. This is with the on board Soundmax installed and enabled. I very rarely play music cds, but I have in the past. Stephen Stephen wrote: Yes. Always disabled and drivers uninstalled except if I need to test it. I have never used the onboard sound, preferring a separate sound card. My current problem seems independent of the card, Creative PCI512, Trust 714 DX and Audigy 2 NX (USB) all give the same symptoms. I use driver cleaner to remove any traces of uninstalled drivers. Stephen Mart wrote: 'Scuse 'buttinski' - and I've missed some of the thread - but when you 'uninstalled' your onboard sound drivers, did you remember to disable it in the BIOS? Trying to run two or more sound devices at once can sometimes cause resource issues/conflicts. Just a thought. Mart "Stephen" wrote in message . .. Still no lasting joy. I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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I see you have the problems with the CD sorted out already - well done.
I'm not a great fan of SiSoft Sandra - but it doesn't often get this sort of thing wrong. Whatever, the fact that the problem exists in both the external and internal sound configurations would indicate that it's a software problem, rather than a USB-related problem. I can't for the life of me work out why adding the CH pedals would screw the sound, unless there's a driver conflict, or there's some kind of output from the pedals which affects sound. Have you tried uninstalling the CH stuff again, and then running the CHdelete utility - does the sound then return to normal?? If so, then we may have a cause/effect and can work on it. - or you can raise it with CH for their comment/fix. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Stephen" wrote in message ... Still no lasting joy. I ran the MSI update utility. The green? didn't go away but when I reinstalled the Audigy the sound seemed OK. I then added the CH Flight Sim Yoke USB and the sound still seemed OK. I then added the CH pedals and the problem returned. I have not been able to replicate this. I have removed all CH software and references to it in Device Manager. I have rerun the MSI update utility. The Audigy still gives the same problem. I have uninstalled the audigy and reinstalled the onboard sound. The same problem is there. Device Manager in safe and normal mode looks OK, Except for the green?. Sisoft Sandra shows 2 entices under intel USB Host Controller 24D4, one shows 8 ports with gang switching power and the other looks normal with only 2 ports. There is only one entry for 24D4 in safe and normal Device Manager. I don't know what this means. As far as I can tell everything else works OK. At one stage I added back my Canon USB scanner and this worked and reported USB 2.0 when connected to the onboard USB ports, even though they had the green ?. At the moment the only USB device connected is the ADSL modem USB 1.1. and this seems to work OK. I'm sorry to be taking so much of your time. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...r/iusb509x.exe would appear to be the drivers for the onboard USB hubs Have you tried using MSI's LiveUpdate to check the status of the other onboard drivers?? http://us-download.msi.com.tw/suppor...LiveUpdate.zip (you can use the utility's preference settings to prevent it loading at boot) How is the sound using just the onboard AC97 output? |
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Thank you for staying with me.
1. I am wondering whether whatever application it was that upset the ASPI configuration may have also changed some other settings affecting sound that is independent of the sound card in use? 2. I can't download the chdelete.exe file from CH products. Its on an ftp site and both IE and Netscape just stall when I try to access it. 3. I'm wondering if the Pro pedals thing was just coincidence. There are no references to CH products in device manager or Windows explorer. 4. I have a System Restore point for a date when the stuttering was tolerable. What are the implications of restoring to that point, given all the changes since then, eg antivirus updates, new sound card, updated drivers and so on? 5. I have a hard disc which has nothing of value on it. If I disconnect the HDD containing my OS from the Mobo could I install ME on the spare disc with just the minimum needed to test the sound? If so can I easily get back to using my current installation? I really don't want to do anything to make matters worse. At the moment the only thing I can't do is use the Flight Sim, or listen to any sound source. I can't afford to lose my Office applications or Broadband. All my data files on on a third separate hard disk. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: I see you have the problems with the CD sorted out already - well done. I'm not a great fan of SiSoft Sandra - but it doesn't often get this sort of thing wrong. Whatever, the fact that the problem exists in both the external and internal sound configurations would indicate that it's a software problem, rather than a USB-related problem. I can't for the life of me work out why adding the CH pedals would screw the sound, unless there's a driver conflict, or there's some kind of output from the pedals which affects sound. Have you tried uninstalling the CH stuff again, and then running the CHdelete utility - does the sound then return to normal?? If so, then we may have a cause/effect and can work on it. - or you can raise it with CH for their comment/fix. |
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Hold on - I'll have a go....
1) This is possible - what did you install/remove at around the time the problem first surfaced? 2) I get a 'server busy' response - with no codes - so I guess that they have server problems..... I suggest emailing their support lines and asking for a copy by email ( or getting their download FTP site fixed!g). 3) - the references are probably within the registry - and the C:\Windows\INF and C:\Windows\System folder. The files involved don't need to have 'ch' in the names. 4) How old is the SR point? - if it's more than a week old, then the risks of using it are possibly greater than the current problems. 5)Assuming the 'spare;' disk isn't currently attached to the system (and so not seen by it), then it's easy enough to replace the current one, and install ME to the spare - It would act as a test of the hardware, but I'm not sure that would get us any further, as we've already established that this almost has to be a software problem. - If the disk is currently attached to the system and seen by it, then you'll have to be careful using it, as System Restore will almost certainly reset when you replace the original configuration, due to changing Disk ID's (unless you are VERY careful - and even then, it's not guaranteed!). -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2006, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.crashfixpc.com/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "Stephen" wrote in message ... Thank you for staying with me. 1. I am wondering whether whatever application it was that upset the ASPI configuration may have also changed some other settings affecting sound that is independent of the sound card in use? 2. I can't download the chdelete.exe file from CH products. Its on an ftp site and both IE and Netscape just stall when I try to access it. 3. I'm wondering if the Pro pedals thing was just coincidence. There are no references to CH products in device manager or Windows explorer. 4. I have a System Restore point for a date when the stuttering was tolerable. What are the implications of restoring to that point, given all the changes since then, eg antivirus updates, new sound card, updated drivers and so on? 5. I have a hard disc which has nothing of value on it. If I disconnect the HDD containing my OS from the Mobo could I install ME on the spare disc with just the minimum needed to test the sound? If so can I easily get back to using my current installation? I really don't want to do anything to make matters worse. At the moment the only thing I can't do is use the Flight Sim, or listen to any sound source. I can't afford to lose my Office applications or Broadband. All my data files on on a third separate hard disk. Stephen Noel Paton wrote: I see you have the problems with the CD sorted out already - well done. I'm not a great fan of SiSoft Sandra - but it doesn't often get this sort of thing wrong. Whatever, the fact that the problem exists in both the external and internal sound configurations would indicate that it's a software problem, rather than a USB-related problem. I can't for the life of me work out why adding the CH pedals would screw the sound, unless there's a driver conflict, or there's some kind of output from the pedals which affects sound. Have you tried uninstalling the CH stuff again, and then running the CHdelete utility - does the sound then return to normal?? If so, then we may have a cause/effect and can work on it. - or you can raise it with CH for their comment/fix. |
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