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Old July 5th 04, 12:19 PM
Jamie
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Default PC not booting up

I have McAfee antivirus check on my PC, whne i try and
boot it up the virus check runs and scans for viruses, it
then says "checking memory for viruses........... is ok"

after this it does nothing.

Can anyone help???
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Old July 5th 04, 12:45 PM
Bill Starbuck
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Default PC not booting up

Troubleshooting should follow this logic:

1. Start Win95/98 in Safe Mode.
If the trouble does not appear in Safe Mode, then the trouble is
caused by software conflicts or defects. Investigate each of the
functions that Safe Mode turns off.

2. If the trouble also occurs in Safe Mode, rename the current Windows
folder and reinstall Win95/98 into an empty folder.
If the trouble does not appear with a fresh installation, the trouble
is caused by something you have added to Win95/98 (but something that
is not turned off by Safe Mode).

3. If the trouble occurs even with a fresh install of Windows, the
trouble is arising in hardware.

Safe Mode does the following:
(a) bypasses config.sys and autoexec.bat
(b) prevents programs from starting automatically (from win.ini
or the startup folder)
(c) uses standard VGA video
(d) prevents a network from being started
(e) disables protected mode device drivers (those listed in
Device Manager)
(f) bypasses the [boot] and [386Enh] sections of system.ini
For more details, see document 122051 in the Microsoft KnowledgeBase.

If Safe Mode makes the problem go away, you can try tests from the
list below to pin down the cause of the problem. For more elaborate
instructions, see document 156126 in the KnowledgeBase, which explains
how to do troubleshooting in Safe Mode.

With Windows 98, you can use MSConfig to help you run the tests below.
With Windows 95, you can use Startup Control Panel. Startup Control
Panel is similar to the Msconfig utility that ships in Windows 98. It
can make troubleshooting easier by removing and restoring items from
the Windows startup. You can get Startup Control Panel as freeware
from:

http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

Startup Cop can also disable items loading at Windows startup and it
is freeware. You can download Startup Cop from:

http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stori...0,,77594,.html

1. Change the video driver to Microsoft's Standard Display Adapter
(VGA). Restart Windows and test.

2. Rename the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat to Config.sss and
Autoexec.bbb, or edit them so that the only things loading are
absolutely necessary for the computer to run. The latter items might
be a SCSI driver for the harddrive, or disk management software for an
EIDE drive. Deactivate EVERYTHING else by putting REM in front of
that line. Reboot the computer and test.

3. Remove EVERYTHING from the Start Menu/Startup folder by dragging
their icons onto the desktop. Also disable or uninstall all utilities
that are running TSR (such as Norton Navigator, SoftRam or Macafee
AV). Restart Windows and test.

4. Rename the Win.ini and System.ini to Win.iii and System.iii. Then
make a copy of System.cb and name it System.ini. Do not rename
System.cb itself. Edit the new System.ini as follows: Add
device=*vmd
to the [386Enh] section, and add
drivers=mmsystem.dll
mouse.drv=mouse.drv
to the [boot] section. Restart Windows. You probably will have no
mouse so you'll have to use keystrokes to do the following. Go into
Device Manager and select the mouse (which will have a yellow
exclamation point). Click "Remove." Again, restart Windows. Windows
should find the mouse and install software for it. Test.

5. With Windows 98, run the System File Checker. Go to Start/Run and
enter "sfc".

6. Rename the current Windows folder (directory). Then install
Win95/98 to a new, empty folder. Test. If problem does not occur, it
was caused by something in the old installation. I recommend that you
keep this new installation and reinstall your Windows applications.

When you reinstall applications, install Windows applications that
were written for Win95/98 or WinNT but do not install older
applications that were written for Windows 3.x. Install only one
application at a time and test the system thoroughly before installing
another application. Before you install and application, make a system
snapshot with a program such as ConfigSafe; this will allow you to
revert to the previous situation if (when) you install an application
that causes trouble. With Win98, it is also possible to run "ScanReg
/Backup" before you install an application, which allows you to
restore the Registry if (when) you install an application that causes
trouble. However, it is safer to make a complete system backup and
recovery with ConfigSafe or a similar product.

The following articles explain how to install into a new folder:

How to Reinstall Windows 95 to a New Folder [142096]
http://support.microsoft.com/support...s/142/0/96.asp

How to Install Windows 98 to a New Folder [193902]
http://support.microsoft.com/support...s/193/9/02.asp

Information about reinstalling is also on www.windowsreinstall.com.


Bill Starbuck (MVP)
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Old July 5th 04, 12:54 PM
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Default PC not booting up

many thanks. i will use this as a last option, i have
found a way to bypass the antivirus check in the
autoexec.bat file.


-----Original Message-----
Troubleshooting should follow this logic:

1. Start Win95/98 in Safe Mode.
If the trouble does not appear in Safe Mode, then the

trouble is
caused by software conflicts or defects. Investigate

each of the
functions that Safe Mode turns off.

2. If the trouble also occurs in Safe Mode, rename the

current Windows
folder and reinstall Win95/98 into an empty folder.
If the trouble does not appear with a fresh

installation, the trouble
is caused by something you have added to Win95/98 (but

something that
is not turned off by Safe Mode).

3. If the trouble occurs even with a fresh install of

Windows, the
trouble is arising in hardware.

Safe Mode does the following:
(a) bypasses config.sys and autoexec.bat
(b) prevents programs from starting automatically (from

win.ini
or the startup folder)
(c) uses standard VGA video
(d) prevents a network from being started
(e) disables protected mode device drivers (those

listed in
Device Manager)
(f) bypasses the [boot] and [386Enh] sections of

system.ini
For more details, see document 122051 in the Microsoft

KnowledgeBase.

If Safe Mode makes the problem go away, you can try

tests from the
list below to pin down the cause of the problem. For

more elaborate
instructions, see document 156126 in the KnowledgeBase,

which explains
how to do troubleshooting in Safe Mode.

With Windows 98, you can use MSConfig to help you run

the tests below.
With Windows 95, you can use Startup Control Panel.

Startup Control
Panel is similar to the Msconfig utility that ships in

Windows 98. It
can make troubleshooting easier by removing and

restoring items from
the Windows startup. You can get Startup Control Panel

as freeware
from:

http://home.ptd.net/~don5408/toolbox/startupcpl/

Startup Cop can also disable items loading at Windows

startup and it
is freeware. You can download Startup Cop from:

http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/stori.../0,,77594,.htm

l

1. Change the video driver to Microsoft's Standard

Display Adapter
(VGA). Restart Windows and test.

2. Rename the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat to Config.sss

and
Autoexec.bbb, or edit them so that the only things

loading are
absolutely necessary for the computer to run. The

latter items might
be a SCSI driver for the harddrive, or disk management

software for an
EIDE drive. Deactivate EVERYTHING else by putting REM

in front of
that line. Reboot the computer and test.

3. Remove EVERYTHING from the Start Menu/Startup folder

by dragging
their icons onto the desktop. Also disable or uninstall

all utilities
that are running TSR (such as Norton Navigator, SoftRam

or Macafee
AV). Restart Windows and test.

4. Rename the Win.ini and System.ini to Win.iii and

System.iii. Then
make a copy of System.cb and name it System.ini. Do not

rename
System.cb itself. Edit the new System.ini as follows: Add
device=*vmd
to the [386Enh] section, and add
drivers=mmsystem.dll
mouse.drv=mouse.drv
to the [boot] section. Restart Windows. You probably

will have no
mouse so you'll have to use keystrokes to do the

following. Go into
Device Manager and select the mouse (which will have a

yellow
exclamation point). Click "Remove." Again, restart

Windows. Windows
should find the mouse and install software for it. Test.

5. With Windows 98, run the System File Checker. Go to

Start/Run and
enter "sfc".

6. Rename the current Windows folder (directory). Then

install
Win95/98 to a new, empty folder. Test. If problem does

not occur, it
was caused by something in the old installation. I

recommend that you
keep this new installation and reinstall your Windows

applications.

When you reinstall applications, install Windows

applications that
were written for Win95/98 or WinNT but do not install

older
applications that were written for Windows 3.x. Install

only one
application at a time and test the system thoroughly

before installing
another application. Before you install and application,

make a system
snapshot with a program such as ConfigSafe; this will

allow you to
revert to the previous situation if (when) you install

an application
that causes trouble. With Win98, it is also possible to

run "ScanReg
/Backup" before you install an application, which allows

you to
restore the Registry if (when) you install an

application that causes
trouble. However, it is safer to make a complete system

backup and
recovery with ConfigSafe or a similar product.

The following articles explain how to install into a new

folder:

How to Reinstall Windows 95 to a New Folder [142096]
http://support.microsoft.com/support...icles/142/0/96

..asp

How to Install Windows 98 to a New Folder [193902]
http://support.microsoft.com/support...icles/193/9/02

..asp

Information about reinstalling is also on

www.windowsreinstall.com.


Bill Starbuck (MVP)
.

  #4  
Old July 5th 04, 09:40 PM
PCR
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Default PC not booting up

Yikes. That recently happened to me, & I was about to finally bite the
bullet & uninstall McAfee myself, after it would not update well a
second time. However, I went to the site...
http://us.mcafee.com/
....& clicked my way to a download of the latest "Superdat"
(SDAT4367.EXE, back then anyway). The site did say McAfee v.8 cannot
update by way of Superdat, though.

It carried with it the latest virus defs, in addition to "whatever".
Seems to have gone in well & quick. I see the three ".dat" (Clean,
Names, Scan) in "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Network
Associates\VirusScan Engine\4.0.xx" that would come in but cause a crash
before-- the crash you descibe, as well as a few others. And I see the
eleven ".mmf" in "C:\Program Files\McAfee\McAfee VirusScan" that did
same twice before. Odd-- various McAfee programs & McScan32.dll were
mentioned in the crashes, BUT they were not changed (only .dat's/.mmf's
were different). Anyhow, it took well by way of Superdat, & all seems
well & good.

As I bonus, it has now become tolerable to have McAfee's Auto-System
Scan running, even now online.

I don't know whether I must go for a Superdat every time now, or whether
I may go back to the update button. Update: I can use the button.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Jamie" wrote in message
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| I have McAfee antivirus check on my PC, whne i try and
| boot it up the virus check runs and scans for viruses, it
| then says "checking memory for viruses........... is ok"
|
| after this it does nothing.
|
| Can anyone help???


 




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