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Am trying to set up a friend's older laptop with wireless networking. It
came with 2000 installed but someone at Circuit City talked her into buying XP upgrade and also a Netgear kit with router and adapter card. The upgrade did not work properly because of older hardware; she did not need the kit because her ISP DSL already provided a Westell 327W router which does the wireless routing. I formatted the drive and installed W98SE (not having anything else to offer). Also installed Linksys sw to try to use a WirelessG adapter just to see if can get it all working. I'm getting a 'connected to access point' but 'not finding internet'. Will this solution work? Are there W98SE specific settings I need to tweak in the Networking function, Control Panel? Advice?? |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:42:02 -0700, Wendy wrote: I'm getting a 'connected to access point' but 'not finding internet'. Will this solution work? Are there W98SE specific settings I need to tweak in the Networking function, Control Panel? Win98 doesn't have the built in wireless support that xp has. You must install third party software from the manufacturer of whichever network card you are using. Start off by disabling encryption and mac filtering on the router until your connection is working properly and then encrypt the connection using the strongest available to the win98. Sadly, that is likely to be wep only but will depend on your card manufacturer. After the wireless is working, the network settings you make on the computer will be the same as if it is wired. Jim. |
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I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is
part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP Home........... so that's different. Thanks for your help "James Egan" wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:42:02 -0700, Wendy wrote: I'm getting a 'connected to access point' but 'not finding internet'. Will this solution work? Are there W98SE specific settings I need to tweak in the Networking function, Control Panel? Win98 doesn't have the built in wireless support that xp has. You must install third party software from the manufacturer of whichever network card you are using. Start off by disabling encryption and mac filtering on the router until your connection is working properly and then encrypt the connection using the strongest available to the win98. Sadly, that is likely to be wep only but will depend on your card manufacturer. After the wireless is working, the network settings you make on the computer will be the same as if it is wired. Jim. |
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If the laptop has a ethernet network card check the properties to make sure
there isn't any IP information in there. I struggled with my sons win98 desktop getting it to connect to the internet ( also connecting via wireless and the adapter found the Access Point with no problem) anyway in frustration I checked the ethernet and found it had some IP info. and clicked on obtain IP automatically to clear the IP settings and voila I had internet. For some reason IE was trying to use the Ethernet card to connect. I don't know why anything was in the Network cards configuration but there was and that was my problem. Just a thought. "Wendy" wrote in message ... I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP Home........... so that's different. Thanks for your help "James Egan" wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:42:02 -0700, Wendy wrote: I'm getting a 'connected to access point' but 'not finding internet'. Will this solution work? Are there W98SE specific settings I need to tweak in the Networking function, Control Panel? Win98 doesn't have the built in wireless support that xp has. You must install third party software from the manufacturer of whichever network card you are using. Start off by disabling encryption and mac filtering on the router until your connection is working properly and then encrypt the connection using the strongest available to the win98. Sadly, that is likely to be wep only but will depend on your card manufacturer. After the wireless is working, the network settings you make on the computer will be the same as if it is wired. Jim. |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:02 -0700, Wendy wrote: I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP Home........... so that's different. If you have connected the wireless bit okay (ie. same wep passphrase on the router and laptop, and the router is configured to allow connections from the mac address of the laptop) then you should be able to ping the ip address of the router from the laptop. Does that work? If so, the problem isn't with the wireless settings. What does the routing table of the laptop say? That might shed some light. ie from a command prompt type "route print c:\temp.txt" and post the contents of temp.txt here. Like the other poster said, if there is another network card on this machine, that could cause problems and it needs to be disabled. Jim. |
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Am away for the weekend and don't have this laptop with me. It's a newly
formatted, older Compaq, and does not have any PCMCIA cards in it. However, I'll take a look at the table you suggested to see if there is something there somehow. This hookup with my Linksys adapter is the first attempt to get it onto wireless internet. "James Egan" wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:02 -0700, Wendy wrote: I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP Home........... so that's different. If you have connected the wireless bit okay (ie. same wep passphrase on the router and laptop, and the router is configured to allow connections from the mac address of the laptop) then you should be able to ping the ip address of the router from the laptop. Does that work? If so, the problem isn't with the wireless settings. What does the routing table of the laptop say? That might shed some light. ie from a command prompt type "route print c:\temp.txt" and post the contents of temp.txt here. Like the other poster said, if there is another network card on this machine, that could cause problems and it needs to be disabled. Jim. |
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Westell router is 192.168.1.1 ... or at least that's the IP I use to get to
the control functions of the router itself, e.g., the security configurators route print to temp.txt yielded: Active Routes: Network Addr Netmask Gateway Addr Interface Metric 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.62.193 same 1 169.254.62.193 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 same 1 169.254.254.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.62.193 same 1 244.0.0.0 244.0.0.0 169.254.62.193 same 1 255.022.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.62.193 0.0.0.0 1 So, what does this tell us??? there is no other network adapter. Control Panel, Device mgr shows: Dialup Adapter Dialup Adapter #2 MPN Support Linksys Wireless (that's what I'm trying to get to work.... or any wireless adapter) Microsoft VPN SMC ICC (infrared controller) If I look at the Linksys properties......shows all is working properly. I know Windows is sometimes flaky......... ?? "James Egan" wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:02 -0700, Wendy wrote: I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP Home........... so that's different. If you have connected the wireless bit okay (ie. same wep passphrase on the router and laptop, and the router is configured to allow connections from the mac address of the laptop) then you should be able to ping the ip address of the router from the laptop. Does that work? If so, the problem isn't with the wireless settings. What does the routing table of the laptop say? That might shed some light. ie from a command prompt type "route print c:\temp.txt" and post the contents of temp.txt here. Like the other poster said, if there is another network card on this machine, that could cause problems and it needs to be disabled. Jim. |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:38:03 -0700, Wendy wrote: So, what does this tell us??? It tells us that your ip address is 169.254.62.193 This is an automatic private ip address which your computer will give itself when it fails to connect with the router to get an ip address by dhcp. It basically means your computer is not on the same network as your router and it won't be until you get the wireless side of things working. You need to look at the router's wireless configuration and use the same settings on the laptop. Ensure also that the router is not configured to block connections based on MAC addresses. Once you think you have this set correctly, reboot the laptop and see if it is receiving an ip address from the router. you can do this by typing winipcfg or ipconfig to see if your address is 192.168.1.x If it's still 169.254.x.x then you have to go back a step and try different settings and reboot (again). Jim. |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:38:03 -0700, Wendy wrote: So, what does this tell us??? It tells us that your ip address is 169.254.62.193 This is an automatic private ip address which your computer will give itself when it fails to connect with the router to get an ip address by dhcp. It basically means your computer is not on the same network as your router and it won't be until you get the wireless side of things working. You need to look at the router's wireless configuration and use the same settings on the laptop. Ensure also that the router is not configured to block connections based on MAC addresses. Once you think you have this set correctly, reboot the laptop and see if it is receiving an ip address from the router. you can do this by typing winipcfg or ipconfig to see if your address is 192.168.1.x If it's still 169.254.x.x then you have to go back a step and try different settings and reboot (again). Jim. |
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Am away for the weekend and don't have this laptop with me. It's a newly
formatted, older Compaq, and does not have any PCMCIA cards in it. However, I'll take a look at the table you suggested to see if there is something there somehow. This hookup with my Linksys adapter is the first attempt to get it onto wireless internet. "James Egan" wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:02 -0700, Wendy wrote: I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP Home........... so that's different. If you have connected the wireless bit okay (ie. same wep passphrase on the router and laptop, and the router is configured to allow connections from the mac address of the laptop) then you should be able to ping the ip address of the router from the laptop. Does that work? If so, the problem isn't with the wireless settings. What does the routing table of the laptop say? That might shed some light. ie from a command prompt type "route print c:\temp.txt" and post the contents of temp.txt here. Like the other poster said, if there is another network card on this machine, that could cause problems and it needs to be disabled. Jim. |
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