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Aol says that i can use xbox live on win 200 and win xp, their are security
issues with ME, they said upgrade to xp and they will help me set it up they just dont support win me. As for having ics, there are three ways to connect, 1- direct from modem (aol doesnt support) 2- Router (again still have win me so no-no) 3- Through pc whilst powered up. (aol support but not with me) How bloody stupid is that... "Noel Paton" wrote: I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL (I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an Xbox yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!) "Noel Paton" wrote: I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL (I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an Xbox yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "spongey" wrote in message news i would switch but ive only just signed up so have a 12mth contract, Is there any way to bypass this? Or do i need to buy a new computer? I did the download check on microsoft to see if my comp can take xp but said i cant so what should i do?? |
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As for the rude response i said from the start i am unsure what to ask or do
as being about as good with pc`s as i am with woman (seriously, you can ask her) AOL said to go into settings then local area networking, i dont have this, it said try in dial up networking and look for internet 2, again i dont have this, when i asked why they asked me what win i was on, told them win ME, they said that i am unable to use networking with AOL only because im on ME. If i had xp i could use it or win 200 which they also support, m not sure but i guess that it disables the local area option because its not on my computer anywhere. If you think you have a way please let me know and i will try it. On my xbox when i have everything connected and try to connect it says it cant find a dns server. not sure if that helps. "Mike M" wrote: spongey wrote: i would switch but ive only just signed up so have a 12mth contract, Is there any way to bypass this? Or do i need to buy a new computer? I did the download check on microsoft to see if my comp can take xp but said i cant so what should i do?? So why did you say "due to not being able to use dial up networking to share the connection"? Internet Connection Sharing has been a feature of Microsoft operating systems since Win 98SE and if an xbox works with XP's ICS it should also work with that in Win Me as it also should with that provided by Win 98SE. As for "what should I do?" a good place to start could be to ask the correct question in the correct place. Win Me supports internet connection sharing. AOL, I understand supports internet connection sharing provided the user is on broadband - which you are. So other than a connection to the internet what are the requirements of your xbox? I suspect none so I can't see why you cannot use Win Me's ICS as the connection since as far as the xbox is concerned the connection will appear identical to that provided by either XP or a direct connection to a router. What you may have to do though is configure port forwarding through the host to the xbox regardless of the host be it Win Me, XP or a router. Regards, -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP |
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AOL will tell you whatever they like - the FACT is that they do NOT support
ICS over dialup. If you wish to (and are able to - I'm not) upgrade to broadband, then you will find that ME works as well as XP for ICS over AOL Win ME will support routers - but AOL won't - and dialup can't Your problem is with AOL and your connection - nothing you have said yet leads me to think that the problem lies with ME. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "spongey" wrote in message ... Aol says that i can use xbox live on win 200 and win xp, their are security issues with ME, they said upgrade to xp and they will help me set it up they just dont support win me. As for having ics, there are three ways to connect, 1- direct from modem (aol doesnt support) 2- Router (again still have win me so no-no) 3- Through pc whilst powered up. (aol support but not with me) How bloody stupid is that... "Noel Paton" wrote: I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL (I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an Xbox yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!) "Noel Paton" wrote: I say again - XP will NOT fix your problem with ICS over AOL (I'm not even convinced that you need ICS, unless you plan on having both the XBox and the PC online at the same time - but as I've never seen an Xbox yet, I'm shooting from the hip here!) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "spongey" wrote in message news i would switch but ive only just signed up so have a 12mth contract, Is there any way to bypass this? Or do i need to buy a new computer? I did the download check on microsoft to see if my comp can take xp but said i cant so what should i do?? |
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c3BvbmdleQ==?= says... I have windows me, and have just bought a xbox live kit, Ive been told that it only works on win 2000 and win xp... Wrong. If the Xbox kit is like the Sony Playstation 2, the OS on the computer is irrelevant. This is due to not being able to use dial up networking to share the connection to the xbox... The only issue, when running a game console through an ICS connection is the effect of NAT on the game ports. This is a factor of NAT, not of the OS. ...the only way ive been told is to update to win xp? They are blowing you off. If you can help please explain as though talking to a five yr old, as i need steps to do something or the rattle gets thrown from the pram, thanks in advance... Yes; I see what you mean about throwing the rattle from the pram. Calling somebody rude, and all; still... Your Xbox is going to need an IP address. It can get one several ways. A direct connection to the Internet, as a computer, will let it pull a public IP address from your provider. However, this works best with a provider which doesn't proxy your connection. I don't know how that will work with AOL. Or, you connect to an ICS computer. Your Xbox will get an IP address from the ICS NAT. It matters not if you are using Windows Me's built-in NAT, Windows 98 (not SE) with something like Wingate, any flavor of Linus with the included software router (like ICS); or even a hardware router. I use the latter. I have a Sony Playstation 2 with the Ethernet adapter. I run a CAT5 patch cable from the RJ45 connector on the back of the console to one of the four LAN ports on my Netgear FR114P. I have the Netgear set up to assign an IP address to each connected device by its MAC address. That is all there is to it. Any difficulty that you may encounter will be of two natures: A. Local. Your network configuration is wrong. B. Remote. Your provider is playing funny games with the connection. You can fix the former by figuring out what the configuration needs to be. I can't see that the Xbox is different from my PS2. I tell the PS2 not to log in to the ISP; that is handled by the Netgear. I tell the PS2 to automatically obtain an IP address from the router. The PS2 sends a DHCP request to the router, and it gets an IP address from the router. NAT software, such as ICS, even Windows Me ICS, will respond to the request with a local IP address for the console. The rest is how you need to move packets from an Internet game server to the console, and back. -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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In article , =?Utf-8?B?
c3BvbmdleQ==?= says... I have windows me, and have just bought a xbox live kit, Ive been told that it only works on win 2000 and win xp... Wrong. If the Xbox kit is like the Sony Playstation 2, the OS on the computer is irrelevant. This is due to not being able to use dial up networking to share the connection to the xbox... The only issue, when running a game console through an ICS connection is the effect of NAT on the game ports. This is a factor of NAT, not of the OS. ...the only way ive been told is to update to win xp? They are blowing you off. If you can help please explain as though talking to a five yr old, as i need steps to do something or the rattle gets thrown from the pram, thanks in advance... Yes; I see what you mean about throwing the rattle from the pram. Calling somebody rude, and all; still... Your Xbox is going to need an IP address. It can get one several ways. A direct connection to the Internet, as a computer, will let it pull a public IP address from your provider. However, this works best with a provider which doesn't proxy your connection. I don't know how that will work with AOL. Or, you connect to an ICS computer. Your Xbox will get an IP address from the ICS NAT. It matters not if you are using Windows Me's built-in NAT, Windows 98 (not SE) with something like Wingate, any flavor of Linus with the included software router (like ICS); or even a hardware router. I use the latter. I have a Sony Playstation 2 with the Ethernet adapter. I run a CAT5 patch cable from the RJ45 connector on the back of the console to one of the four LAN ports on my Netgear FR114P. I have the Netgear set up to assign an IP address to each connected device by its MAC address. That is all there is to it. Any difficulty that you may encounter will be of two natures: A. Local. Your network configuration is wrong. B. Remote. Your provider is playing funny games with the connection. You can fix the former by figuring out what the configuration needs to be. I can't see that the Xbox is different from my PS2. I tell the PS2 not to log in to the ISP; that is handled by the Netgear. I tell the PS2 to automatically obtain an IP address from the router. The PS2 sends a DHCP request to the router, and it gets an IP address from the router. NAT software, such as ICS, even Windows Me ICS, will respond to the request with a local IP address for the console. The rest is how you need to move packets from an Internet game server to the console, and back. -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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