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Old November 6th 05, 04:29 PM
Buffalo
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?


"Jon Danniken" wrote in message
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Hello,

I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an
option at this time.

When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it uses
a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application is
closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released.

I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category "Memory
Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of "free" RAM.
When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when I close the
application, it does not return to the "pre application" amount.

This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired
consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a
recording.

Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used it
is closed?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Jon


There are some free programs that will 'release' ram, although these programs
require some ram themselves.
Most msvp here will tell you that these programs are useless or some even call
them 'crapware'.
Try one for yourself and see if it 'really' helps and post back.
Otherwise:
Close down all unnecessary running programs, including your
anti-virus,(firewall,anti-adware) etc when using Sound Recorder to make a
recording.
Of course, don't be connected to the Internet and only use pre-scanned files.
This should make more physical ram available, even if not shown as unused.
Do you use a defrag that allows putting the swap file at the start of the C:
drive?
PS: How much ram does Sound Recorder list as the minimum ram required in Win98?


  #22  
Old November 6th 05, 05:50 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

Jon Danniken wrote:
Hello,

I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an
option at this time.

When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it
uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application
is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released.

I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category
"Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of
"free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when
I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application"
amount.

This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired
consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a
recording.

Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used
it is closed?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Jon


Everyone has covered most everything already, but I only want to comment on
your using the sound recorder and getting that memory prompt? Now we all
know that when you use the stock sound recorder to do some functions it's
normal that it will prompt you that it does not have enough memory; for
instance, let's say to live encode an mpeg (mp3) audio file (I don't use it
for that) but if I did it will give me that same memory prompt if I try to
do 'some' functions even though I have 1GB of memory on 98SE, etc...
...and so 'if' it's just the stock sound recorder related to that generic
memory prompt that you may have gotten? ...is that your concern? ..if so
explain more - but that's nothing to be too concerned about really, and
don't get confused with the windows releasing memory issue, with the sound
recorder limitations because they are not the same; besides, there are
better tools for creating audio situations; but having said that, I do like
the handy little stock sound recorder and use it for basic things myself.

Rick





  #23  
Old November 6th 05, 05:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Rick Chauvin
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

Jon Danniken wrote:
Hello,

I am running Win98 on a box with 64Mb RAM, and adding more RAM is not an
option at this time.

When I open up an application, for instance Window's Sound Recorder, it
uses a certain amount of RAM. The problem is that when the application
is closed, the RAM memory which it used is not released.

I noticed this by using "Windows System Monitor". In the category
"Memory Manager, Unused Physical Memory", it shows a certain amount of
"free" RAM. When I open up the application, it becomes lowered, but when
I close the application, it does not return to the "pre application"
amount.

This is leading to the swapfile being used, which has undesired
consequences, especially in regards to using Sound Recorder to make a
recording.

Is there a method of releasing this RAM after an application which used
it is closed?

Thanks for any suggestions,

Jon


Everyone has covered most everything already, but I only want to comment on
your using the sound recorder and getting that memory prompt? Now we all
know that when you use the stock sound recorder to do some functions it's
normal that it will prompt you that it does not have enough memory; for
instance, let's say to live encode an mpeg (mp3) audio file (I don't use it
for that) but if I did it will give me that same memory prompt if I try to
do 'some' functions even though I have 1GB of memory on 98SE, etc...
...and so 'if' it's just the stock sound recorder related to that generic
memory prompt that you may have gotten? ...is that your concern? ..if so
explain more - but that's nothing to be too concerned about really, and
don't get confused with the windows releasing memory issue, with the sound
recorder limitations because they are not the same; besides, there are
better tools for creating audio situations; but having said that, I do like
the handy little stock sound recorder and use it for basic things myself.

Rick





  #24  
Old November 7th 05, 09:25 AM
Ron Martell
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

"Chris" wrote:

You don't get it? If an application does not free up the used memory,
Windows can not free up the memory to use for other applications. Hence, a
Windows restart is the only way to get the memory back.

Like I said, try some other programs. Try searching for a program call
dbPowerAmp. This program even lets you save audio in mp3 format.


Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
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Old November 7th 05, 09:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Ron Martell
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

"Chris" wrote:

You don't get it? If an application does not free up the used memory,
Windows can not free up the memory to use for other applications. Hence, a
Windows restart is the only way to get the memory back.

Like I said, try some other programs. Try searching for a program call
dbPowerAmp. This program even lets you save audio in mp3 format.


Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
  #26  
Old November 7th 05, 06:20 PM
Hugh Candlin
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

"Ron Martell" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote:

You don't get it? If an application does not free up the used memory,
Windows can not free up the memory to use for other applications. Hence,

a
Windows restart is the only way to get the memory back.

Like I said, try some other programs. Try searching for a program call
dbPowerAmp. This program even lets you save audio in mp3 format.


Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Stock up while you're in the mood

Balderdash, baloney, bilge, bull, bunkum, claptrap, crap, eyewash, flimflam,
garbage, hogwash, hooey, horsefeathers, jazz, piffle, poppycock, rot,
rubbish,
tomfoolery, tommyrot, trash and applesauce.


  #27  
Old November 7th 05, 06:20 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Hugh Candlin[_2_]
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
"Chris" wrote:

You don't get it? If an application does not free up the used memory,
Windows can not free up the memory to use for other applications. Hence,

a
Windows restart is the only way to get the memory back.

Like I said, try some other programs. Try searching for a program call
dbPowerAmp. This program even lets you save audio in mp3 format.


Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Stock up while you're in the mood

Balderdash, baloney, bilge, bull, bunkum, claptrap, crap, eyewash, flimflam,
garbage, hogwash, hooey, horsefeathers, jazz, piffle, poppycock, rot,
rubbish,
tomfoolery, tommyrot, trash and applesauce.


  #28  
Old November 7th 05, 07:00 PM
Ron Badour
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

Applesauce?????????? G

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Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...
"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
"Chris" wrote:

You don't get it? If an application does not free up the used memory,
Windows can not free up the memory to use for other applications.
Hence,

a
Windows restart is the only way to get the memory back.

Like I said, try some other programs. Try searching for a program call
dbPowerAmp. This program even lets you save audio in mp3 format.


Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Stock up while you're in the mood

Balderdash, baloney, bilge, bull, bunkum, claptrap, crap, eyewash,
flimflam,
garbage, hogwash, hooey, horsefeathers, jazz, piffle, poppycock, rot,
rubbish,
tomfoolery, tommyrot, trash and applesauce.




  #29  
Old November 7th 05, 07:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.performance
Ron Badour
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

Applesauce?????????? G

--
Regards


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...
"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
"Chris" wrote:

You don't get it? If an application does not free up the used memory,
Windows can not free up the memory to use for other applications.
Hence,

a
Windows restart is the only way to get the memory back.

Like I said, try some other programs. Try searching for a program call
dbPowerAmp. This program even lets you save audio in mp3 format.


Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Stock up while you're in the mood

Balderdash, baloney, bilge, bull, bunkum, claptrap, crap, eyewash,
flimflam,
garbage, hogwash, hooey, horsefeathers, jazz, piffle, poppycock, rot,
rubbish,
tomfoolery, tommyrot, trash and applesauce.




  #30  
Old November 7th 05, 07:26 PM
Hugh Candlin
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Default How can I get Win98 to release memory when an application is closed?

"Ron Badour" wrote in message
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Applesauce?????????? G

--
Regards

Indeed.

Although it lacks the ready recognition of the others,
it makes up for it with its element of surprise,
and its humorous impact.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=applesauce


Ron Badour, MS MVP for W98
Tips: http://home.satx.rr.com/badour
Knowledge Base Info:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?pr=kbinfo



"Hugh Candlin" wrote in message
...
"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
"Chris" wrote:

You don't get it? If an application does not free up the used memory,
Windows can not free up the memory to use for other applications.
Hence,

a
Windows restart is the only way to get the memory back.

Like I said, try some other programs. Try searching for a program

call
dbPowerAmp. This program even lets you save audio in mp3 format.


Balderdash. Hogwash. Malarkey.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Stock up while you're in the mood

Balderdash, baloney, bilge, bull, bunkum, claptrap, crap, eyewash,
flimflam,
garbage, hogwash, hooey, horsefeathers, jazz, piffle, poppycock, rot,
rubbish,
tomfoolery, tommyrot, trash and applesauce.






 




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