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  #11  
Old June 27th 04, 11:04 PM
masterprometheus
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)


"Doug" wrote in message
news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all

(no
WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)


That's expected.

When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need. I

do
this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect all

the
options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process

Win.ini
file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load

environment
variables"


Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.

Good luck
MP

Doug



  #12  
Old June 27th 04, 11:39 PM
Mart
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

MP wrote:-

That's expected.


Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug really was in
Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and of course
he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the drivers.

Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I can only
suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.

Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible* drivers. Check
again with Creative.

(BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in message
...

"Doug" wrote in message
news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all

(no
WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)


That's expected.

When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need. I

do
this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect all

the
options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process

Win.ini
file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load

environment
variables"


Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.

Good luck
MP

Doug





  #13  
Old June 28th 04, 03:14 PM
Doug
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file. I unchecked it and
used selective startup, and I had sound on startup, including the WinME
"fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.

Now what?

Doug

"Mart" wrote in message
...
MP wrote:-

That's expected.


Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug really was

in
Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and of

course
he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the drivers.

Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I can only
suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.

Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible* drivers.

Check
again with Creative.

(BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in message
...

"Doug" wrote in message
news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all

(no
WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)


That's expected.

When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need. I

do
this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect all

the
options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process

Win.ini
file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load

environment
variables"


Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.

Good luck
MP

Doug







  #14  
Old June 28th 04, 03:58 PM
Mart
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

I've noticed that you mentioned the system.ini file(contained in the Windows
folder) in a couple of your posts.

There would 'appear' to be an entry in that file which has not been
removed/deleted/modified when you 'Removed' the (all) previous drivers
and/or not been overwritten by the new installation.

Make a copy of the file and keep it safe (in case you need to use it later).
Now try 'looking' at it the working file in notepad and see if you can find
a line (or lines) referring to multimedia devices or sound card drivers.

Edit the file by 'Remming' (remarking) it out (I.E. - Type rem or put a semi
colon at the start of that line) ONE LINE AT A TIME and save the file (it
should save itself as system.ini)

Re-boot into Normal Mode and see if your sound card now works. Repeat the
process for each line, one at a time, until you find the offending line -
re-editing (removing) the semi-colon from the previous save.

Good luck

Mart


"Doug" wrote in message
news:eFVDc.22297$wS2.5403@okepread03...
OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file. I unchecked it

and
used selective startup, and I had sound on startup, including the WinME
"fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.

Now what?

Doug

"Mart" wrote in message
...
MP wrote:-

That's expected.


Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug really

was
in
Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and of

course
he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the drivers.

Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I can only
suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.

Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible* drivers.

Check
again with Creative.

(BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in message
...

"Doug" wrote in message
news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound at all
(no
WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)

That's expected.

When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I need.

I
do
this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and deselect

all
the
options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file" "Process
Win.ini
file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items" "Load
environment
variables"

Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem is.

Good luck
MP

Doug









  #15  
Old June 28th 04, 05:04 PM
masterprometheus
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
Maybe somoene can discover the problem.

Regards
MP

"Mart" wrote in message
...
I've noticed that you mentioned the system.ini file(contained in the

Windows
folder) in a couple of your posts.

There would 'appear' to be an entry in that file which has not been
removed/deleted/modified when you 'Removed' the (all) previous drivers
and/or not been overwritten by the new installation.

Make a copy of the file and keep it safe (in case you need to use it

later).
Now try 'looking' at it the working file in notepad and see if you can

find
a line (or lines) referring to multimedia devices or sound card

drivers.

Edit the file by 'Remming' (remarking) it out (I.E. - Type rem or put

a semi
colon at the start of that line) ONE LINE AT A TIME and save the file

(it
should save itself as system.ini)

Re-boot into Normal Mode and see if your sound card now works. Repeat

the
process for each line, one at a time, until you find the offending

line -
re-editing (removing) the semi-colon from the previous save.

Good luck

Mart


"Doug" wrote in message
news:eFVDc.22297$wS2.5403@okepread03...
OK I found the offending file. It's the System.ini file. I unchecked

it
and
used selective startup, and I had sound on startup, including the

WinME
"fanfare". I can play CD's, MP3's, everything.

Now what?

Doug

"Mart" wrote in message
...
MP wrote:-

That's expected.

Indeed - that's exactly why I needed to determine whether Doug

really
was
in
Safe Mode (as he stated) rather than Selective Start-up Mode, and

of
course
he was not in Safe Mode - which points the problem back to the

drivers.

Doug, if you can't identify the 'offender' using MP's advice, I

can only
suggest re-installing the SB drivers yet again.

Are you sure that you are using the latest *WinMe compatible*

drivers.
Check
again with Creative.

(BTW - the link to SID1359 had time expired so was of no help)

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in

message
...

"Doug" wrote in message
news:WOADc.21932$wS2.6478@okepread03...
When I start in safe mode using F8 at bootup, I get no sound

at all
(no
WinME "fanfare", no mp3, no CD's)

That's expected.

When I start without the startup files, I get all the audio I

need.
I
do
this by going into msconfig, check Selective Startup, and

deselect
all
the
options underneath it, such as: "Process System.ini file"

"Process
Win.ini
file" "Load static VxDs" "Load Startup Group Items"

"Load
environment
variables"

Instead try eliminating one by one to find out where the problem

is.

Good luck
MP

Doug











  #16  
Old June 28th 04, 05:15 PM
Mart
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of requesting
an attachment of an unknown length file g

Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in message
...
And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
Maybe somoene can discover the problem.

Regards
MP

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  #17  
Old June 28th 04, 06:08 PM
Noel Paton
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

Mart -
The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
[boot] section

often, the
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of

requesting
an attachment of an unknown length file g

Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in message
...
And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
Maybe somoene can discover the problem.

Regards
MP

snipped




  #18  
Old June 28th 04, 09:15 PM
Mart
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

Thanks Noel, my WinMe box (laptop) is out on loan at the moment and I
couldn't remember where that section was - it's been quite a while since I
looked at a system.ini file g

But tend not to request attachments on NG's g

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Mart -
The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
[boot] section

often, the
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of

requesting
an attachment of an unknown length file g

Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in message
...
And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
Maybe somoene can discover the problem.

Regards
MP

snipped






  #19  
Old June 28th 04, 09:42 PM
Noel Paton
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

What - not using VPC? VBEG

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks Noel, my WinMe box (laptop) is out on loan at the moment and I
couldn't remember where that section was - it's been quite a while since I
looked at a system.ini file g

But tend not to request attachments on NG's g

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Mart -
The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
[boot] section

often, the
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of

requesting
an attachment of an unknown length file g

Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in message
...
And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next reply.
Maybe somoene can discover the problem.

Regards
MP

snipped








  #20  
Old June 28th 04, 11:38 PM
Mart
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Default No sound unless started in Safe mode (WinME)

It's bad enough keeping track of one OS per machine without mixing them. But
I can understand why you included the 'E' g

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
What - not using VPC? VBEG

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Thanks Noel, my WinMe box (laptop) is out on loan at the moment and I
couldn't remember where that section was - it's been quite a while since

I
looked at a system.ini file g

But tend not to request attachments on NG's g

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Mart -
The error is usually in the first section of the system.ini file - the
[boot] section

often, the
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv
line is either missing completely, or has nothing after the = sign.

HTH

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2004, Win9x)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's
or
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f.../Mar27pmvp.asp

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hi MP - yes I would like to see it myself but was apprehensive of
requesting
an attachment of an unknown length file g

Perhaps relevant lines could be pasted into reply?

Mart


"masterprometheus" wrote in

message
...
And you can attach a copy of the system.ini file to your next

reply.
Maybe somoene can discover the problem.

Regards
MP

snipped










 




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