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  #11  
Old June 29th 07, 01:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Wendy
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Default Wireless networking

Am away for the weekend and don't have this laptop with me. It's a newly
formatted, older Compaq, and does not have any PCMCIA cards in it. However,
I'll take a look at the table you suggested to see if there is something
there somehow. This hookup with my Linksys adapter is the first attempt to
get it onto wireless internet.

"James Egan" wrote:


On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:02 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is
part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor
MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through
the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see
anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can
look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP
Home........... so that's different.


If you have connected the wireless bit okay (ie. same wep passphrase
on the router and laptop, and the router is configured to allow
connections from the mac address of the laptop) then you should be
able to ping the ip address of the router from the laptop. Does that
work? If so, the problem isn't with the wireless settings.

What does the routing table of the laptop say? That might shed some
light.
ie from a command prompt type "route print c:\temp.txt" and post the
contents of temp.txt here.

Like the other poster said, if there is another network card on this
machine, that could cause problems and it needs to be disabled.


Jim.


  #12  
Old July 1st 07, 09:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Wendy
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Default Wireless networking

Westell router is 192.168.1.1 ... or at least that's the IP I use to get to
the control functions of the router itself, e.g., the security configurators

route print to temp.txt yielded:

Active Routes:

Network Addr Netmask Gateway Addr
Interface Metric
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 1
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.62.193
same 1
169.254.62.193 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
same 1
169.254.254.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.62.193 same
1
244.0.0.0 244.0.0.0 169.254.62.193
same 1
255.022.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.62.193
0.0.0.0 1

So, what does this tell us??? there is no other network adapter.
Control Panel, Device mgr shows:

Dialup Adapter
Dialup Adapter #2 MPN Support
Linksys Wireless (that's what I'm trying to get to work.... or any wireless
adapter)
Microsoft VPN
SMC ICC (infrared controller)

If I look at the Linksys properties......shows all is working properly. I
know Windows is sometimes flaky.........


??


"James Egan" wrote:


On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:02 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is
part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor
MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through
the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see
anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can
look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP
Home........... so that's different.


If you have connected the wireless bit okay (ie. same wep passphrase
on the router and laptop, and the router is configured to allow
connections from the mac address of the laptop) then you should be
able to ping the ip address of the router from the laptop. Does that
work? If so, the problem isn't with the wireless settings.

What does the routing table of the laptop say? That might shed some
light.
ie from a command prompt type "route print c:\temp.txt" and post the
contents of temp.txt here.

Like the other poster said, if there is another network card on this
machine, that could cause problems and it needs to be disabled.


Jim.


  #13  
Old July 1st 07, 09:38 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Wendy
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Posts: 17
Default Wireless networking

Westell router is 192.168.1.1 ... or at least that's the IP I use to get to
the control functions of the router itself, e.g., the security configurators

route print to temp.txt yielded:

Active Routes:

Network Addr Netmask Gateway Addr
Interface Metric
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1 1
169.254.0.0 255.255.0.0 169.254.62.193
same 1
169.254.62.193 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1
same 1
169.254.254.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.62.193 same
1
244.0.0.0 244.0.0.0 169.254.62.193
same 1
255.022.255.255 255.255.255.255 169.254.62.193
0.0.0.0 1

So, what does this tell us??? there is no other network adapter.
Control Panel, Device mgr shows:

Dialup Adapter
Dialup Adapter #2 MPN Support
Linksys Wireless (that's what I'm trying to get to work.... or any wireless
adapter)
Microsoft VPN
SMC ICC (infrared controller)

If I look at the Linksys properties......shows all is working properly. I
know Windows is sometimes flaky.........


??


"James Egan" wrote:


On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:46:02 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

I'm using the sw which came with Linksys G adapter... not anything which is
part of W98SE. And I set it for WEP. Never was asked about encryption nor
MAC filters, so I don't think those are in place. I have gone back through
the profile for wireless on that laptop via the Linksys sw and can't see
anything "odd", but I'm not a network guru, either. Anything else I can
look at? I use this same adapter with my own laptop, but it runs XP
Home........... so that's different.


If you have connected the wireless bit okay (ie. same wep passphrase
on the router and laptop, and the router is configured to allow
connections from the mac address of the laptop) then you should be
able to ping the ip address of the router from the laptop. Does that
work? If so, the problem isn't with the wireless settings.

What does the routing table of the laptop say? That might shed some
light.
ie from a command prompt type "route print c:\temp.txt" and post the
contents of temp.txt here.

Like the other poster said, if there is another network card on this
machine, that could cause problems and it needs to be disabled.


Jim.


  #14  
Old July 2nd 07, 01:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
James Egan
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Default Wireless networking


On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:38:03 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

So, what does this tell us???


It tells us that your ip address is 169.254.62.193

This is an automatic private ip address which your computer will give
itself when it fails to connect with the router to get an ip address
by dhcp.

It basically means your computer is not on the same network as your
router and it won't be until you get the wireless side of things
working.

You need to look at the router's wireless configuration and use the
same settings on the laptop. Ensure also that the router is not
configured to block connections based on MAC addresses.

Once you think you have this set correctly, reboot the laptop and see
if it is receiving an ip address from the router. you can do this by
typing winipcfg or ipconfig to see if your address is 192.168.1.x

If it's still 169.254.x.x then you have to go back a step and try
different settings and reboot (again).


Jim.

  #15  
Old July 2nd 07, 01:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
James Egan
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Posts: 339
Default Wireless networking


On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:38:03 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

So, what does this tell us???


It tells us that your ip address is 169.254.62.193

This is an automatic private ip address which your computer will give
itself when it fails to connect with the router to get an ip address
by dhcp.

It basically means your computer is not on the same network as your
router and it won't be until you get the wireless side of things
working.

You need to look at the router's wireless configuration and use the
same settings on the laptop. Ensure also that the router is not
configured to block connections based on MAC addresses.

Once you think you have this set correctly, reboot the laptop and see
if it is receiving an ip address from the router. you can do this by
typing winipcfg or ipconfig to see if your address is 192.168.1.x

If it's still 169.254.x.x then you have to go back a step and try
different settings and reboot (again).


Jim.

  #16  
Old July 2nd 07, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Wendy
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Posts: 17
Default Wireless networking

Frustrating. I know it's hard to help someone when you can't have actual
eyes and hands on the computer to see what's really going on.

I checked everything. The Westell router is in basement of our 2story
house. The computer I'm on right now connects through the same Linksys-G
wireless adapter which I have brought home from our office to try to get
wireless networking operational on my friend's older laptop. I have been
through all of the settings. MAC filtering was never turned on.

The laptop IS seeing our home network, I can select the network by name and
then get prompted to enter the pass key, but then it is still getting
"connected to Access point, but can't find the internet"...... yet I'm
sitting 5' away and connect just fine.

I have checked channels (6), WEP, enabled in the right places, disabled in
matching places.

any other ideas??

"James Egan" wrote:


On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:38:03 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

So, what does this tell us???


It tells us that your ip address is 169.254.62.193

This is an automatic private ip address which your computer will give
itself when it fails to connect with the router to get an ip address
by dhcp.

It basically means your computer is not on the same network as your
router and it won't be until you get the wireless side of things
working.

You need to look at the router's wireless configuration and use the
same settings on the laptop. Ensure also that the router is not
configured to block connections based on MAC addresses.

Once you think you have this set correctly, reboot the laptop and see
if it is receiving an ip address from the router. you can do this by
typing winipcfg or ipconfig to see if your address is 192.168.1.x

If it's still 169.254.x.x then you have to go back a step and try
different settings and reboot (again).


Jim.


  #17  
Old July 2nd 07, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Wendy
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Posts: 17
Default Wireless networking

Frustrating. I know it's hard to help someone when you can't have actual
eyes and hands on the computer to see what's really going on.

I checked everything. The Westell router is in basement of our 2story
house. The computer I'm on right now connects through the same Linksys-G
wireless adapter which I have brought home from our office to try to get
wireless networking operational on my friend's older laptop. I have been
through all of the settings. MAC filtering was never turned on.

The laptop IS seeing our home network, I can select the network by name and
then get prompted to enter the pass key, but then it is still getting
"connected to Access point, but can't find the internet"...... yet I'm
sitting 5' away and connect just fine.

I have checked channels (6), WEP, enabled in the right places, disabled in
matching places.

any other ideas??

"James Egan" wrote:


On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:38:03 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

So, what does this tell us???


It tells us that your ip address is 169.254.62.193

This is an automatic private ip address which your computer will give
itself when it fails to connect with the router to get an ip address
by dhcp.

It basically means your computer is not on the same network as your
router and it won't be until you get the wireless side of things
working.

You need to look at the router's wireless configuration and use the
same settings on the laptop. Ensure also that the router is not
configured to block connections based on MAC addresses.

Once you think you have this set correctly, reboot the laptop and see
if it is receiving an ip address from the router. you can do this by
typing winipcfg or ipconfig to see if your address is 192.168.1.x

If it's still 169.254.x.x then you have to go back a step and try
different settings and reboot (again).


Jim.


  #18  
Old July 3rd 07, 08:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
James Egan
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Posts: 339
Default Wireless networking


On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:10:05 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

Frustrating. I know it's hard to help someone when you can't have actual
eyes and hands on the computer to see what's really going on.

I checked everything. The Westell router is in basement of our 2story
house. The computer I'm on right now connects through the same Linksys-G
wireless adapter which I have brought home from our office to try to get
wireless networking operational on my friend's older laptop. I have been
through all of the settings. MAC filtering was never turned on.

The laptop IS seeing our home network, I can select the network by name and
then get prompted to enter the pass key, but then it is still getting
"connected to Access point, but can't find the internet"...... yet I'm
sitting 5' away and connect just fine.

I have checked channels (6), WEP, enabled in the right places, disabled in
matching places.

any other ideas??


If you're sure the wireless is working correctly, the next stage is
the laptop getting an ip address from the router and it isn't.

Ensure that the router has dhcp enabled. If it has already and you
still get this 169.254.x.x address when you reboot, then you might try
the laptop with a static ip address.

That would entail going into the tcp/ip properties and making some
configuration changes.

IP Address: 192.168.1.50
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

DNS Configuration:
Enable DNS
Host = computer's name (eg LAPTOP)
DNS Server = ip address of your ISP's nameservers

Then as a first step, try and ping the router at 192.168.1.1 and see
if you get a response. Post back the result.


Jim.


  #19  
Old July 3rd 07, 08:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
James Egan
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Posts: 339
Default Wireless networking


On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:10:05 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

Frustrating. I know it's hard to help someone when you can't have actual
eyes and hands on the computer to see what's really going on.

I checked everything. The Westell router is in basement of our 2story
house. The computer I'm on right now connects through the same Linksys-G
wireless adapter which I have brought home from our office to try to get
wireless networking operational on my friend's older laptop. I have been
through all of the settings. MAC filtering was never turned on.

The laptop IS seeing our home network, I can select the network by name and
then get prompted to enter the pass key, but then it is still getting
"connected to Access point, but can't find the internet"...... yet I'm
sitting 5' away and connect just fine.

I have checked channels (6), WEP, enabled in the right places, disabled in
matching places.

any other ideas??


If you're sure the wireless is working correctly, the next stage is
the laptop getting an ip address from the router and it isn't.

Ensure that the router has dhcp enabled. If it has already and you
still get this 169.254.x.x address when you reboot, then you might try
the laptop with a static ip address.

That would entail going into the tcp/ip properties and making some
configuration changes.

IP Address: 192.168.1.50
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

DNS Configuration:
Enable DNS
Host = computer's name (eg LAPTOP)
DNS Server = ip address of your ISP's nameservers

Then as a first step, try and ping the router at 192.168.1.1 and see
if you get a response. Post back the result.


Jim.


  #20  
Old July 3rd 07, 01:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.networking
Wendy
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Posts: 17
Default Wireless networking

checked all of that and found nothing to be changed. set up the static IP
address on the laptop and winipcfg showed it 'took'. did a ping back to the
192.168.1.1 router and that fails. Did an IPCONFIG on "this computer" which
is also talking to the same router on a wireless Linksys-G setup (same as
what I'm trying to get on that laptop; variable is this computer is newer and
XP whereas the laptop is older and W98SE). Anyhow, the information matched
up with exception that of course this computer has an IP 'assigned' as
192.168.1.47.

Since I don't know what her network will end up being once she has Verizon
help her get her router set up for wireless, plus securing it (they don't
bother to help the user with an SSID and key password unless you ask).....
should I cease at this stage so as to not totally mess things up once I
return the laptop to her?

One other thing, WINIPCFG on the laptop showed TWO PPP entries. I did a
Release All on each of them. I also wondered if there is more listed in
the Networking than is needed. I know Windows has a tendency to load in
additional 'devices' or adapters than actually required within
"communications".



"James Egan" wrote:


On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:10:05 -0700, Wendy
wrote:

Frustrating. I know it's hard to help someone when you can't have actual
eyes and hands on the computer to see what's really going on.

I checked everything. The Westell router is in basement of our 2story
house. The computer I'm on right now connects through the same Linksys-G
wireless adapter which I have brought home from our office to try to get
wireless networking operational on my friend's older laptop. I have been
through all of the settings. MAC filtering was never turned on.

The laptop IS seeing our home network, I can select the network by name and
then get prompted to enter the pass key, but then it is still getting
"connected to Access point, but can't find the internet"...... yet I'm
sitting 5' away and connect just fine.

I have checked channels (6), WEP, enabled in the right places, disabled in
matching places.

any other ideas??


If you're sure the wireless is working correctly, the next stage is
the laptop getting an ip address from the router and it isn't.

Ensure that the router has dhcp enabled. If it has already and you
still get this 169.254.x.x address when you reboot, then you might try
the laptop with a static ip address.

That would entail going into the tcp/ip properties and making some
configuration changes.

IP Address: 192.168.1.50
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.1

DNS Configuration:
Enable DNS
Host = computer's name (eg LAPTOP)
DNS Server = ip address of your ISP's nameservers

Then as a first step, try and ping the router at 192.168.1.1 and see
if you get a response. Post back the result.


Jim.



 




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