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  #11  
Old September 24th 04, 02:25 AM
ray
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I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722


Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2 minutes

just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at that

point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in message
...
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try


http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in message
.. .
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow

boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event

(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds, instead of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt

File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you

might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be fair,

the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray" wrote in
message
.. .
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a long

time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and just

sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green

background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't know

why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2 mintues

of
just
sitting there before the windows screen finally

comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.

  #12  
Old September 24th 04, 08:59 AM
Mart
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Posts: n/a
Default

Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I don't think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php and checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in message
...
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722


Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2 minutes

just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at that

point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in message
...
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try

http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in message
. ..
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event

(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds, instead of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt

File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you

might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray" wrote in
message
. ..
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and just

sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2 mintues

of
just
sitting there before the windows screen finally

comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



  #13  
Old September 24th 04, 06:31 PM
ray
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I don't see any unnecessary stuff on there. Yes it does
let me order the duration column.
It wasn't just really just suddenly, what I did was I
formatted the hard drive and put Win ME on it because I
was having lots of other problems. I started over
completely and from the beginning that I did it, it has
been slow booting before I put anything in it.
-----Original Message-----
Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I don't

think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by

clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary

programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php and

checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in

message
...
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722

Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2 minutes

just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at that

point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in message
.. .
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try


http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in

message
.. .
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be

displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event

(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds, instead of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt

File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you

might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be

fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-

depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray" wrote

in
message
...
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and just

sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light

is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't

know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2 mintues

of
just
sitting there before the windows screen finally

comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



.

  #14  
Old September 24th 04, 06:56 PM
ray
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I tried running scandisk on my D drive, and it said that
it was not properly formatted or a program such as disk
utility has locked it. It says format the drive or wait
for the utility to finish. I don't have any disk utility
running, so I guess it does need formatted. Could that
be the whole problem? It can't read the drive properly
on startup?
-----Original Message-----
Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I don't

think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by

clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary

programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php and

checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in

message
...
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722

Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2 minutes

just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at that

point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in message
.. .
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try


http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in

message
.. .
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be

displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event

(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds, instead of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt

File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you

might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be

fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-

depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray" wrote

in
message
...
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and just

sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light

is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't

know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2 mintues

of
just
sitting there before the windows screen finally

comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



.

  #15  
Old September 24th 04, 07:55 PM
Mart
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Posts: n/a
Default

As I suggested in another post - "Disconnect it temporally if you're not
sure."

See if things improve with the D: drive disconnected/removed.

Mart


"ray" wrote in message
...
I tried running scandisk on my D drive, and it said that
it was not properly formatted or a program such as disk
utility has locked it. It says format the drive or wait
for the utility to finish. I don't have any disk utility
running, so I guess it does need formatted. Could that
be the whole problem? It can't read the drive properly
on startup?
-----Original Message-----
Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I don't

think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by

clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary

programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php and

checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in

message
...
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722

Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2 minutes
just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at that
point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in message
. ..
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try


http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in

message
. ..
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be

displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an event
(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds, instead of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt
File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you
might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be

fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-

depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray" wrote

in
message
l...
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and just
sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light

is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't

know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2 mintues
of
just
sitting there before the windows screen finally
comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



.



  #16  
Old September 25th 04, 01:03 AM
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Posts: n/a
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Hi

click on start slect run and type "msconfig" in pop up
select startup and u will see list of all applications
which are booting up when u switch on uncheck items that u
dont use or do not need to auto boot on power up save and
reboot u will get a message that u have made changes which
u click do not show and u will see improvement depending
on what u have switched off any mistake just go back in
and recheck box. Some people make notes to see what
changes have made just incase u need to go back and undo
changes,

regards
mikem
-----Original Message-----
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a long time to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and just sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't know why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2 mintues of just
sitting there before the windows screen finally comes up
with all the icons and whatever.
.

  #17  
Old October 8th 04, 01:00 AM
ray
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

it was the other hard drive. I finally removed it and
now it boots very quick. The hard drive is damaged and
I'm sending it to Maxtor so they can repair/replace it.
-----Original Message-----
As I suggested in another post - "Disconnect it

temporally if you're not
sure."

See if things improve with the D: drive

disconnected/removed.

Mart


"ray" wrote in

message
...
I tried running scandisk on my D drive, and it said that
it was not properly formatted or a program such as disk
utility has locked it. It says format the drive or

wait
for the utility to finish. I don't have any disk

utility
running, so I guess it does need formatted. Could that
be the whole problem? It can't read the drive properly
on startup?
-----Original Message-----
Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I

don't
think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by

clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary

programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

and
checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in

message
.. .
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time

estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and

ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time

Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722

Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2

minutes
just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at

that
point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in

message
.. .
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try



http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in

message
...
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be

displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the

slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an

event
(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds, instead

of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt
File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you
might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be

fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-

depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray" wrote

in
message
bl...
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a

long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and

just
sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light

is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't

know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2

mintues
of
just
sitting there before the windows screen finally
comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



.



.

  #18  
Old October 8th 04, 01:11 AM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Geez, Ray, I've been glued to my machine waiting for your response g

Good to know that you've now found the cause of your problem and more
importantly that Maxtor have given you an RTM number. I've only ever had to
send one back to them and got excellent service. Their reputation is still
sound!

Good luck with the replacement.

Mart


"ray" wrote in message
...
it was the other hard drive. I finally removed it and
now it boots very quick. The hard drive is damaged and
I'm sending it to Maxtor so they can repair/replace it.
-----Original Message-----
As I suggested in another post - "Disconnect it

temporally if you're not
sure."

See if things improve with the D: drive

disconnected/removed.

Mart


"ray" wrote in

message
...
I tried running scandisk on my D drive, and it said that
it was not properly formatted or a program such as disk
utility has locked it. It says format the drive or

wait
for the utility to finish. I don't have any disk

utility
running, so I guess it does need formatted. Could that
be the whole problem? It can't read the drive properly
on startup?
-----Original Message-----
Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I

don't
think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by
clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary
programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

and
checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in
message
. ..
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time

estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and

ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time

Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722

Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2

minutes
just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at

that
point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in

message
. ..
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try



http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in
message
l...
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be
displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the

slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an

event
(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds, instead

of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the Bootlog.txt
File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results, you
might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be
fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires in-
depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray" wrote
in
message
news:273401c4a194$414020d0$a601280a@phx. gbl...
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a

long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and

just
sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red light
is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I don't
know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2

mintues
of
just
sitting there before the windows screen finally
comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



.



.



  #19  
Old October 9th 04, 12:53 AM
ray
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Posts: n/a
Default

Well, I just found out that the hard drive is no longer
under warranty. So I have to buy a new one. They said
the warranty expired in 2003. My book says that it has a
3 year warranty and I'm pretty sure I bought the hard
drive either at the end of 2001 or beginning of 2002. I
bought the hard drive at a computer show along with the
rest of the computer. Does the warranty start when those
people buy it? This just doesn't sound right.
-----Original Message-----
Geez, Ray, I've been glued to my machine waiting for

your response g

Good to know that you've now found the cause of your

problem and more
importantly that Maxtor have given you an RTM number.

I've only ever had to
send one back to them and got excellent service. Their

reputation is still
sound!

Good luck with the replacement.

Mart


"ray" wrote in

message
...
it was the other hard drive. I finally removed it and
now it boots very quick. The hard drive is damaged and
I'm sending it to Maxtor so they can repair/replace it.
-----Original Message-----
As I suggested in another post - "Disconnect it

temporally if you're not
sure."

See if things improve with the D: drive

disconnected/removed.

Mart


"ray" wrote in

message
.. .
I tried running scandisk on my D drive, and it said

that
it was not properly formatted or a program such as

disk
utility has locked it. It says format the drive or

wait
for the utility to finish. I don't have any disk

utility
running, so I guess it does need formatted. Could

that
be the whole problem? It can't read the drive

properly
on startup?
-----Original Message-----
Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I

don't
think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by
clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary
programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

and
checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in
message
.. .
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time

estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)

("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and

ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time

Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list

of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722

Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2

minutes
just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at

that
point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in

message
...
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try




http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in
message
bl...
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be
displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the

slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an

event
(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds,

instead
of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the

Bootlog.txt
File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results,

you
might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be
fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires

in-
depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray"

wrote
in
message
news:273401c4a194$414020d0$a601280a@phx .gbl...
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a

long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and

just
sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red

light
is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I

don't
know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2

mintues
of
just
sitting there before the windows screen

finally
comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



.



.



.

  #20  
Old October 9th 04, 12:41 PM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Does the warranty start when those
people buy it? This just doesn't sound right.


For what it's worth Ray, take a look at:-
http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Ma...ty%20Statement

I thought that most HDD manufacturers give only 12 months warranty these
days, with their 'mass market' products. Fortunately, HDD prices are much
lower than they were several years ago g

Mart


"ray" wrote in message
...
Well, I just found out that the hard drive is no longer
under warranty. So I have to buy a new one. They said
the warranty expired in 2003. My book says that it has a
3 year warranty and I'm pretty sure I bought the hard
drive either at the end of 2001 or beginning of 200 2.I
bought the hard drive at a computer show along with the
rest of the computer. Does the warranty start when those
people buy it? This just doesn't sound right.
-----Original Message-----
Geez, Ray, I've been glued to my machine waiting for

your response g

Good to know that you've now found the cause of your

problem and more
importantly that Maxtor have given you an RTM number.

I've only ever had to
send one back to them and got excellent service. Their

reputation is still
sound!

Good luck with the replacement.

Mart


"ray" wrote in

message
...
it was the other hard drive. I finally removed it and
now it boots very quick. The hard drive is damaged and
I'm sending it to Maxtor so they can repair/replace it.
-----Original Message-----
As I suggested in another post - "Disconnect it
temporally if you're not
sure."

See if things improve with the D: drive
disconnected/removed.

Mart


"ray" wrote in
message
. ..
I tried running scandisk on my D drive, and it said

that
it was not properly formatted or a program such as

disk
utility has locked it. It says format the drive or
wait
for the utility to finish. I don't have any disk
utility
running, so I guess it does need formatted. Could

that
be the whole problem? It can't read the drive

properly
on startup?
-----Original Message-----
Well, those figures look reasonably 'normal', so I
don't
think you've a
problem there. BTW - you can 'order' the timing by
clicking on the
"Duration" column heading.

The only other thoughts a-

Did this "slowdown" suddenly happen?
Have you loaded any new software recently?

Check your start-up axis for 'unnecessary
programs/utilities.
Try http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php
and
checkout the second
bullet point in particular

Mart



"ray" wrote in
message
. ..
I'm guessing it's seconds
the longest one is InitDone = TSRQuery (time
estimated)
under delays, it shows the following:
Loading Vxd=vnetbios.nxd 1.000
Dynamic init device PCI 0.944
Enumerating Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA)

("blah
blah stuff") .278
Enumerating USB Root Hub (USB\ROOT_HUB\PCI"blah
blah") .389
Dynamic init device PPPMAC 1.056
Initing esdi_506.pdr .333
Initing esdi_506.pdr .611
initDone=TSRQuery(time estimated) 1.722
EndTerminate=User(time estimated) ###.###

The time on the left column starts at 20:44:56 and
ends
20:45:03 then at the EndTerminate=User(time
Estimated)
it goes to 21:22:36 and has a long list

of "Removing"
and "Removed" things and ends at 21:22:36

-----Original Message-----
The largest one was 1.722

Minutes or seconds?

If minutes, then that *might* explain your "1-2
minutes
just sitting there"

But you need to identify the cause of the 1.722 at
that
point. What
operation does it say is taking place at that time?

Mart


wrote in
message
l...
The largest one was 1.722
-----Original Message-----
Try




http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/boo...alyzer123.html

Mart



wrote in
message
news:288801c4a1a4$faca58d0$a601280a@phx. gbl...
The first link doesn't work, page cannot be
displayed
-----Original Message-----
Try Boot Log Analyzer (Freeware) from
http://www.vision4.dial.pipex.com/
It might help you to pin down the cause of the
slow
boot-
ups. (NB - it also
works on WinME)

Look at the 'Duration' column and look for an
event
(or
events) taking
several 'tens' or 'hundreds' of seconds,

instead
of
fractions or several
seconds. (5 mins = 300 seconds)

Also see "Load Failures Listed in the

Bootlog.txt
File"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=kb;en-
us;127970

If you not sure how to decipher the results,

you
might
need to seek the
assistance of your local PC repair shop. To be
fair,
the
BLA page does state
that " ... interpreting the results requires

in-
depth
technical knowledge."

HTH

Mart


"ray"

wrote
in
message
news:273401c4a194$414020d0$a601280a@ph x.gbl...
I just installed ME on a formatted hard drive.
Everything is working good except it takes a
long
time
to
boot up. It gets to the windows screen and
just
sits
there. The only thing on screen is a green
background
and the hourglass mouse pointer. The red

light
is
flashing so it is doing SOMETHING, but I

don't
know
why
it is taking so long. It takes about 1-2
mintues
of
just
sitting there before the windows screen

finally
comes
up
with all the icons and whatever.


.



.



.



.



.



.



 




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