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Old August 22nd 06, 03:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Frank
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Default Problems Installing Windows 98

Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid. So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer’s
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As prompted initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when attempting to
boot up. So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS and the
file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I partitioned the hard
drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this hard format of the hard drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and Windows
began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be the format that I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick format that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I returned to
finish off the install process of Windows 98 once again. Thinking that I had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the Windows 98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.

Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the PC's CD ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I was able to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and could
operate normally.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there that can
offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any advice from anyone
would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank
  #2  
Old August 22nd 06, 04:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
USR
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Posts: 8
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

Since this is a new system, it most likely not function with Windows 98.
Not just a driver issue but also hardware limitations.

Have you tried running this program in XP using compatibility mode?


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid.
So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on
Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer's
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As prompted
initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when attempting
to
boot up. So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS and the
file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I partitioned the hard
drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this hard format of the hard
drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and Windows
began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be the format that
I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick format
that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I returned to
finish off the install process of Windows 98 once again. Thinking that I
had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the Windows
98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.

Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the PC's CD
ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I was able
to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and could
operate normally.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there that can
offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any advice from anyone
would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank



  #3  
Old August 22nd 06, 04:25 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
USR
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Posts: 8
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

Since this is a new system, it most likely not function with Windows 98.
Not just a driver issue but also hardware limitations.

Have you tried running this program in XP using compatibility mode?


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid.
So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on
Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer's
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As prompted
initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when attempting
to
boot up. So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS and the
file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I partitioned the hard
drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this hard format of the hard
drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and Windows
began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be the format that
I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick format
that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I returned to
finish off the install process of Windows 98 once again. Thinking that I
had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the Windows
98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.

Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the PC's CD
ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I was able
to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and could
operate normally.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there that can
offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any advice from anyone
would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank



  #4  
Old August 22nd 06, 07:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Alan
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Posts: 213
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

You haven't forgotten that the max size for the RAM is 512 and the largest
disk is 127g? You can of course go higher with the RAM but you have to
modify the system.ini first. If you are over both this criteria, Windows 98
has problems.
Alan
"Frank" wrote in message
...
Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid.

So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on

Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer's
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As prompted

initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when attempting

to
boot up. So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS and the
file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I partitioned the hard
drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this hard format of the hard

drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and Windows
began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be the format that

I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick format

that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I returned to
finish off the install process of Windows 98 once again. Thinking that I

had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the Windows

98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.

Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the PC's CD

ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I was able

to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and could
operate normally.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there that can
offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any advice from anyone
would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank



  #5  
Old August 22nd 06, 07:53 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Alan
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 213
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

You haven't forgotten that the max size for the RAM is 512 and the largest
disk is 127g? You can of course go higher with the RAM but you have to
modify the system.ini first. If you are over both this criteria, Windows 98
has problems.
Alan
"Frank" wrote in message
...
Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid.

So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on

Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer's
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As prompted

initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when attempting

to
boot up. So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS and the
file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I partitioned the hard
drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this hard format of the hard

drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and Windows
began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be the format that

I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick format

that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I returned to
finish off the install process of Windows 98 once again. Thinking that I

had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the Windows

98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.

Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the PC's CD

ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I was able

to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and could
operate normally.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there that can
offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any advice from anyone
would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank



  #6  
Old August 22nd 06, 04:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Frank
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Posts: 5
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

I've heard of compatibility mode, I'll take a look and see if it helps.
Thanks for your suggestion!

Frank

"USR" wrote:

Since this is a new system, it most likely not function with Windows 98.
Not just a driver issue but also hardware limitations.

Have you tried running this program in XP using compatibility mode?


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid.
So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on
Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer's
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As prompted
initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when attempting
to
boot up. So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS and the
file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I partitioned the hard
drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this hard format of the hard
drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and Windows
began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be the format that
I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick format
that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I returned to
finish off the install process of Windows 98 once again. Thinking that I
had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the Windows
98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.

Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the PC's CD
ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I was able
to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and could
operate normally.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there that can
offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any advice from anyone
would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank




  #7  
Old August 22nd 06, 04:43 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Frank
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 5
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

I've heard of compatibility mode, I'll take a look and see if it helps.
Thanks for your suggestion!

Frank

"USR" wrote:

Since this is a new system, it most likely not function with Windows 98.
Not just a driver issue but also hardware limitations.

Have you tried running this program in XP using compatibility mode?


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid.
So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on
Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer's
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed. As prompted
initially,
Windows formatted the C: drive. After doing a complete install and
re-booting the PC a second time as prompted, the PC locks when attempting
to
boot up. So, realizing that this operating system runs off of DOS and the
file systems needs to be FAT, not NTFS formatted, I partitioned the hard
drive to operate in DOS via FDISK. After this hard format of the hard
drive,
I re-started the PC with the Windows install CD in the drive, and Windows
began a secondary format of the drive. This looked to be the format that
I
was looking for as it was taking forever (not the usually quick format
that I
was continually running into). After taking a lunch break, I returned to
finish off the install process of Windows 98 once again. Thinking that I
had
finally done it, the PC rebooted, and then once again, just as the Windows
98
logo appeared, the PC fully locked.

Oh, and don't let me forget, I couldn't get Windows to find the PC's CD
ROM
drive (although I could access it via DOS). When in Safe Mode, I was able
to
ensure that the Hard Drives File Systems was in fact set as FAT and could
operate normally.

I hope all this makes some sense to any professional's out there that can
offer some advice. I'm no where near an expert, so any advice from anyone
would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks,

Frank




  #8  
Old August 22nd 06, 09:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Ron Martell
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Posts: 240
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

Frank wrote:

Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid. So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer’s
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed.


snip

Installing Windows 98 on a brand new computer is comparable to putting
a Model T Ford engine into a brand new Ferrari. It just isn't
designed to work with the newer hardware.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
  #9  
Old August 22nd 06, 09:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
Ron Martell
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Posts: 240
Default Problems Installing Windows 98

Frank wrote:

Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid. So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer’s
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed.


snip

Installing Windows 98 on a brand new computer is comparable to putting
a Model T Ford engine into a brand new Ferrari. It just isn't
designed to work with the newer hardware.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
  #10  
Old August 22nd 06, 10:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.performance
USR
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Posts: 8
Default Problems Installing Windows 98


"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
Frank wrote:

Ok, let me explain myself before telling me that I'm just plain stupid.
So,
here's the situation. I have a customer that's looking to operate on old
version of digitizing software. The software was designed to run on
Windows
98.

Here's the issue: when attempting to install Windows 98 on our customer's
brand new hp computer, no real problems are noticed.


snip

Installing Windows 98 on a brand new computer is comparable to putting
a Model T Ford engine into a brand new Ferrari. It just isn't
designed to work with the newer hardware.


That's not only a bad comparison but quite the exageration!

If you're using applications which benefit from the extra hardware speed but
for which there is no benefit of using for example XP, then why not use 98?

For example, I'm using a 3200+ ( which is overclocked to 9x270 ) with 98SE.
For what I use 98SE for, this gives a humunges performance boost. So using
your analogy, "My Model T OS is working damned well in my overclocked
Ferrari". =o)



 




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