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Video Drivers Lockup Boot
I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally
installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512 Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever resolution and color depth I wanted. Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before. Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor. I found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers. I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD. Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16 colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo. When I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode and removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem. I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev., and it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with 16 colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure? Thanks in advance. Steve O'Neill -- "I think, therefore I thwim." R. Descartes |
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You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers.
Joe "Steve O'Neill" wrote in message ... I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512 Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever resolution and color depth I wanted. Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before. Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor. I found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers. I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD. Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16 colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo. When I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode and removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem. I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev., and it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with 16 colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure? Thanks in advance. Steve O'Neill -- "I think, therefore I thwim." R. Descartes |
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:45:51 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers. Joe Did. They were the first things I installed after the first boot. Got any other possibilities, maybe something I'm overlooking? Steve O'Neill "Steve O'Neill" wrote in message ... I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512 Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever resolution and color depth I wanted. Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before. Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor. I found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers. I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD. Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16 colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo. When I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode and removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem. I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev., and it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with 16 colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure? Thanks in advance. Steve O'Neill -- "I think, therefore I thwim." R. Descartes -- "I think, therefore I thwim." R. Descartes |
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I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the problem.
Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that problem in Windows 98: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912 The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The article also has a workaround. That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079 Joe "Steve O'Neill" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:45:51 -0400, Joe727 wrote: You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers. Joe Did. They were the first things I installed after the first boot. Got any other possibilities, maybe something I'm overlooking? Steve O'Neill "Steve O'Neill" wrote in message .. . I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512 Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever resolution and color depth I wanted. Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before. Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor. I found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers. I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD. Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16 colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo. When I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode and removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem. I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev., and it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with 16 colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure? Thanks in advance. Steve O'Neill -- "I think, therefore I thwim." R. Descartes -- "I think, therefore I thwim." R. Descartes |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the problem. Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that problem in Windows 98: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912 The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The article also has a workaround. That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079 Joe Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty sure that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL you referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95, but the use of System Config should work on Win 98. Steve O'Neill "Steve O'Neill" wrote in message ... On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:45:51 -0400, Joe727 wrote: You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers. Joe Did. They were the first things I installed after the first boot. Got any other possibilities, maybe something I'm overlooking? Steve O'Neill "Steve O'Neill" wrote in message . .. I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512 Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever resolution and color depth I wanted. Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before. Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor. I found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers. I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD. Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16 colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo. When I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode and removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem. I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev., and it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with 16 colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure? Thanks in advance. Steve O'Neill |
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"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote: I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the problem. Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that problem in Windows 98: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912 The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The article also has a workaround. That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079 Joe Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty sure that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL you referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95, but the use of System Config should work on Win 98. Steve O'Neill snip The second link does not directly reference Windows 98, but that link is included in the body of the article in first link I posted, and that MSKB article pertains to all the Windows 98 OSs. Joe |
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:10:56 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote: I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the problem. Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that problem in Windows 98: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912 The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The article also has a workaround. That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079 Joe Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty sure that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL you referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95, but the use of System Config should work on Win 98. Steve O'Neill snip The second link does not directly reference Windows 98, but that link is included in the body of the article in first link I posted, and that MSKB article pertains to all the Windows 98 OSs. Joe I set the limit of Vcache in System.ini to 512 Meg, reinstalled the ABIT drivers for my card, and, voila', it booted right up. Now I can start reinstalling the apps I need and get some work done :-) Many thanks for your help. Steve O'Neill |
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"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:10:56 -0400, Joe727 wrote: "Steve O'Neill" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote: I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the problem. Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that problem in Windows 98: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912 The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The article also has a workaround. That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution. http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079 Joe Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty sure that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL you referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95, but the use of System Config should work on Win 98. Steve O'Neill snip The second link does not directly reference Windows 98, but that link is included in the body of the article in first link I posted, and that MSKB article pertains to all the Windows 98 OSs. Joe I set the limit of Vcache in System.ini to 512 Meg, reinstalled the ABIT drivers for my card, and, voila', it booted right up. Now I can start reinstalling the apps I need and get some work done :-) Many thanks for your help. Steve O'Neill You're welcome Steve, and thanks for posting back to let us know that you got the problem solved. Joe |
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