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Old August 24th 04, 09:36 PM
Steve O'Neill
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Default Video Drivers Lockup Boot

I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally
installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512
Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia
Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever
resolution and color depth I wanted.

Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO
Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before.
Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor. I
found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered
from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the
easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers.

I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD.
Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16
colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came
with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo. When
I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode and
removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem.

I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev., and
it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only
run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with 16
colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some
insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure?
Thanks in advance.

Steve O'Neill



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"I think, therefore I thwim."

R. Descartes
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Old August 25th 04, 02:45 AM
Joe727
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You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers.

Joe

"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally
installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512
Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia
Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever
resolution and color depth I wanted.

Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO
Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before.
Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor.
I
found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered
from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the
easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers.

I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD.
Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16
colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came
with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo.
When
I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode
and
removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem.

I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev.,
and
it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only
run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with
16
colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some
insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure?
Thanks in advance.

Steve O'Neill



--
"I think, therefore I thwim."

R. Descartes



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Old August 26th 04, 04:53 PM
Steve O'Neill
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:45:51 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers.

Joe


Did. They were the first things I installed after the first boot. Got any
other possibilities, maybe something I'm overlooking?

Steve O'Neill



"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was originally
installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with 512
Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia
Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me whatever
resolution and color depth I wanted.

Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a SOYO
Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before.
Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17" monitor.
I
found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98 suffered
from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded the
easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers.

I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD.
Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16
colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that came
with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo.
When
I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode
and
removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem.

I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev.,
and
it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only
run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with
16
colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some
insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a cure?
Thanks in advance.

Steve O'Neill



--
"I think, therefore I thwim."

R. Descartes





--
"I think, therefore I thwim."

R. Descartes
  #4  
Old August 26th 04, 05:01 PM
Joe727
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I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the problem.

Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that
problem in Windows 98:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912

The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The
article also has a workaround.

That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079

Joe

"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:45:51 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers.

Joe


Did. They were the first things I installed after the first boot. Got any
other possibilities, maybe something I'm overlooking?

Steve O'Neill



"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
.. .
I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was
originally
installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with
512
Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia
Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me
whatever
resolution and color depth I wanted.

Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a
SOYO
Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before.
Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17"
monitor.
I
found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98
suffered
from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded
the
easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers.

I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD.
Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16
colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that
came
with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo.
When
I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode
and
removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem.

I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev.,
and
it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only
run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with
16
colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some
insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a
cure?
Thanks in advance.

Steve O'Neill



--
"I think, therefore I thwim."

R. Descartes





--
"I think, therefore I thwim."

R. Descartes



  #5  
Old August 27th 04, 06:03 PM
Steve O'Neill
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the problem.

Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that
problem in Windows 98:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912

The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The
article also has a workaround.

That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079

Joe


Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty sure
that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed
solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL you
referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95, but
the use of System Config should work on Win 98.

Steve O'Neill



"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:45:51 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
You also need to re-install your motherboard chipset drivers.

Joe


Did. They were the first things I installed after the first boot. Got any
other possibilities, maybe something I'm overlooking?

Steve O'Neill



"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
. ..
I've been using Win98 for several years now, off and on. It was
originally
installed on a machine that had an EPoX motherboard, an 8KTA3 Pro with
512
Meg . My video card was(and is) an ABIT Siluro T200, using an Nvidia
Geoforce chip. In this installation, the card ran fine, giving me
whatever
resolution and color depth I wanted.

Unfortunately, the original motherboard died, and was replaced with a
SOYO
Dragon Plus K7VX4L. All of the peripheral cards are the same as before.
Besides the new mobo, there is now 1024 Meg of RAM and a new 17"
monitor.
I
found when I tried to boot up after replacing the mobo that Win98
suffered
from severe driver confusion, as I expected it would, and so concluded
the
easiest thing to do would be to reinstall Win98 and all drivers.

I blew away my Windows system and reinstalled from the original CD.
Installation seemed to go okay, and the system came up in 640x480, 16
colors, as I expected . I then installed the ABIT Nvidia drivers that
came
with the card, the exact same ones I installed with the original mobo.
When
I rebooted, Win started to boot, then locked. When I went into safe mode
and
removed the Nvidia drivers, then rebooted, it came up with no problem.

I've since updated the drivers from the manufacturer to the latest rev.,
and
it still locks after I install them. As it stands now, Win98 will only
run(outside of safe mode) when the display is set as a standard VGA with
16
colors, with no other video drivers installed. Can anyone provide some
insight into what could be causing the lockup, and perhaps suggest a
cure?
Thanks in advance.

Steve O'Neill


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Old August 27th 04, 06:10 PM
Joe727
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"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the
problem.

Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that
problem in Windows 98:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912

The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The
article also has a workaround.

That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079

Joe


Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty
sure
that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed
solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL you
referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95,
but
the use of System Config should work on Win 98.

Steve O'Neill

snip

The second link does not directly reference Windows 98, but that link is
included in the body of the article in first link I posted, and that MSKB
article pertains to all the Windows 98 OSs.

Joe



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Old August 27th 04, 09:53 PM
Steve O'Neill
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:10:56 -0400, Joe727 wrote:

"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the
problem.

Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses that
problem in Windows 98:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912

The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The
article also has a workaround.

That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079

Joe


Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty
sure
that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed
solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL you
referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95,
but
the use of System Config should work on Win 98.

Steve O'Neill

snip

The second link does not directly reference Windows 98, but that link is
included in the body of the article in first link I posted, and that MSKB
article pertains to all the Windows 98 OSs.

Joe


I set the limit of Vcache in System.ini to 512 Meg, reinstalled the ABIT
drivers for my card, and, voila', it booted right up. Now I can start
reinstalling the apps I need and get some work done :-) Many thanks for your
help.

Steve O'Neill
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Old August 27th 04, 10:48 PM
Joe727
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"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:10:56 -0400, Joe727 wrote:

"Steve O'Neill" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:36 -0400, Joe727 wrote:
I missed the part about the 1 gig of RAM & Windows 98 - that's the
problem.

Here's a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base article which addresses
that
problem in Windows 98:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;253912

The final paragraph illustrates the problem you were experiencing. The
article also has a workaround.

That MSKB article has this link in it to the solution.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;EN-US;108079

Joe

Thanks for the input. After reading the page you referenced, I'm pretty
sure
that memory greater than 512 Meg is my problem. I'll try their proposed
solution to see it that works, and let you know. Incidentally, the URL
you
referenced as the link to the solution is only for Win 3.11 and Win 95,
but
the use of System Config should work on Win 98.

Steve O'Neill

snip

The second link does not directly reference Windows 98, but that link is
included in the body of the article in first link I posted, and that MSKB
article pertains to all the Windows 98 OSs.

Joe


I set the limit of Vcache in System.ini to 512 Meg, reinstalled the ABIT
drivers for my card, and, voila', it booted right up. Now I can start
reinstalling the apps I need and get some work done :-) Many thanks for
your
help.

Steve O'Neill


You're welcome Steve, and thanks for posting back to let us know that you
got the problem solved.

Joe


 




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