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Desktop fails at boot W86se
Hi
On power on, sytem appears to boot normally untill the destop starts to display. Blue background displays, then tool bar at bottom of screen, then desktop icons display, Then background goes to white and IMAP error message displays 'Caused an invalid page faoult in module OLE32 at 017f:65f4727 ... When the error message is closed it is replaced by MMTASK, page fault in OLE32 at same address Close this, get NISUM same fault at same address Close this , get EXPLORER same fault at same address Close this , get Active desktop recovery message and EXPLORER same fault message. Close this, desktop goes back to blue background and EXPLORER fault comes up again. Subsequent closing of the EXPLORER error just loops back to Explorer message again. I have carried out a virus scan of the drive over the network from another PC, nothing found. Any pointers? Thanks Ian F |
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Desktop fails at boot W86se
How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98
http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926 "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune http://www.google.com/groups?selm=%2...GP12.phx. gbl -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz & Ian" wrote in message ... Hi On power on, sytem appears to boot normally untill the destop starts to display. Blue background displays, then tool bar at bottom of screen, then desktop icons display, Then background goes to white and IMAP error message displays 'Caused an invalid page faoult in module OLE32 at 017f:65f4727 ... When the error message is closed it is replaced by MMTASK, page fault in OLE32 at same address Close this, get NISUM same fault at same address Close this , get EXPLORER same fault at same address Close this , get Active desktop recovery message and EXPLORER same fault message. Close this, desktop goes back to blue background and EXPLORER fault comes up again. Subsequent closing of the EXPLORER error just loops back to Explorer message again. I have carried out a virus scan of the drive over the network from another PC, nothing found. Any pointers? Thanks Ian F |
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Desktop fails at boot W86se
Thanks -
Looks like the thing I need. Cheeers Ian F "glee" wrote in message ... How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926 "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune http://www.google.com/groups?selm=%2...GP12.phx. gbl -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |
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It is a process, first doing a clean boot, then slowly re-enabling items till the
problem returns....but it is the best way to narrow it down. Post back when you get near the cause. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz & Ian" wrote in message ... Thanks - Looks like the thing I need. Cheeers Ian F "glee" wrote in message ... How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926 "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune http://www.google.com/groups?selm=%2...GP12.phx. gbl -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |
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I've never seen so many error messages one-after-another!
Sounds like 98 needs reinstalling -----Original Message----- Hi On power on, sytem appears to boot normally untill the destop starts to display. Blue background displays, then tool bar at bottom of screen, then desktop icons display, Then background goes to white and IMAP error message displays 'Caused an invalid page faoult in module OLE32 at 017f:65f4727 ... When the error message is closed it is replaced by MMTASK, page fault in OLE32 at same address Close this, get NISUM same fault at same address Close this , get EXPLORER same fault at same address Close this , get Active desktop recovery message and EXPLORER same fault message. Close this, desktop goes back to blue background and EXPLORER fault comes up again. Subsequent closing of the EXPLORER error just loops back to Explorer message again. I have carried out a virus scan of the drive over the network from another PC, nothing found. Any pointers? Thanks Ian F . |
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Desktop fails at boot W86se
Well - I spent a fair part of the weekend building up from a clean boot,
'narrowed' the problem to somewhere in the start up files. Frustration really set in when I found that there was some inconsistency with System Check, Pointer, and SBOELoader. OK with first two, but add SBOE... and desktop crash returns. However unticking SBOE.... does not cure, and it is not untill I untick the other two that boot will complete. And even further, the System Configuration Utility screen would freeze, and I was not able to get to reboot from there on occasion. So - as my drive is getting a bit crowded, and the price of 120gb drives is not so bad now, I'm going to take the 'chicken' route, cure will be new drive and reinstall. Thanks for help, but my head is getting a bit sore from this brick wall. Cheers Ian F "glee" wrote in message ... It is a process, first doing a clean boot, then slowly re-enabling items till the problem returns....but it is the best way to narrow it down. Post back when you get near the cause. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz & Ian" wrote in message ... Thanks - Looks like the thing I need. Cheeers Ian F "glee" wrote in message ... How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=192926 "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary Terhune http://www.google.com/groups?selm=%2...GP12.phx. gbl -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |
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Desktop fails at boot W86se
I cannot find either System Check or SBOELoader in any compilation of =
startup apps, or anywhere else for that matter. I suggest this procedure, before you give up and reinstall: Update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan. Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip In addition, install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check = for Updates' link in the app to install updates, then use it to scan = your system, and remove what it finds. Ad-Awa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and = then remove the items in RED only. SpyBot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/inde...age=3Ddownload Download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these locations: http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe Unzip to a folder other than your Desktop or the Temp folder, = doubleclick HijackThis.exe, and hit "Scan". When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will change into a "Save = Log" button. Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it (Desktop, My = Documents, or similar). Most of what it lists will be harmless or even required, so do NOT fix = anything yet. Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at one of these = forums: http://forums.net-integration.net/ http://computercops.biz/forums.html http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showforum=3D30 http://tomcoyote.org/forums/ http://www.lavasoftsupport.com=20 http://boards.cexx.org/ The folks there will tell you what to remove. A tutorial for using Hijack This is located he http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/ and an in-depth tutorial is he http://aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm Additional reading: Dealing with Hijackware http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm#tshoot http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm http://doxdesk.com/parasite/CoolWebSearch.html and http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html --=20 Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz & Ian" wrote in message = ... Well - I spent a fair part of the weekend building up from a clean = boot, 'narrowed' the problem to somewhere in the start up files. =20 Frustration really set in when I found that there was some = inconsistency with System Check, Pointer, and SBOELoader. OK with first two, but = add SBOE... and desktop crash returns. However unticking SBOE.... does = not cure, and it is not untill I untick the other two that boot will = complete. And even further, the System Configuration Utility screen would = freeze, and I was not able to get to reboot from there on occasion. =20 So - as my drive is getting a bit crowded, and the price of 120gb = drives is not so bad now, I'm going to take the 'chicken' route, cure will be = new drive and reinstall. =20 Thanks for help, but my head is getting a bit sore from this brick = wall. =20 Cheers Ian F =20 =20 "glee" wrote in message ... It is a process, first doing a clean boot, then slowly re-enabling = items till the problem returns....but it is the best way to narrow it down. Post = back when you get near the cause. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz & Ian" wrote in message ... Thanks - Looks like the thing I need. Cheeers Ian F "glee" wrote in message ... How to Perform Clean-Boot Troubleshooting for Windows 98 http://support.microsoft.com?kbid=3D192926 "CLEAN BOOT -- What it is and why you need it." by MS MVP Gary = Terhune = http://www.google.com/groups?selm=3D...FTNGP12.ph x= ..gbl -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm =20 =20 |
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OK, you apparently have SBOELoader un-checked in msconfig, so it is not =
appearing in the Hijack This log....consequently, the folks in the forum = cannot see any reference to it there. Click Start Run msconfig, recheck the unchecked items and click OK, = but do NOT reboot when prompted. Run Hijack This and save the log, then = run msconfig again and uncheck the items you need to, in order to boot = up. That way the entries should appear in the log, and you will have = disabled them following that so you can boot successfully. Post the new log to that thread in the net-integration forum. You should also "fix" the other entries that T-Zero mentioned. --=20 Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz and Ian" wrote in message = ... Hi Glen =20 I got this far: =20 'Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at one of these = forums: =20 http://forums.net-integration.net/' =20 Forum thread is: =20 = http://forums.net-integration.net/in...3&view=3Dgetn= ewpost =20 Cheers Ian F =20 "glee" wrote in message ... I cannot find either System Check or SBOELoader in any compilation of startup apps, or anywhere else for that matter. =20 I suggest this procedure, before you give up and reinstall: =20 Update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan. =20 Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip =20 In addition, install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its = 'Check for Updates' link in the app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds. Ad-Awa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ =20 Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and = then remove the items in RED only. SpyBot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/inde...age=3Ddownload =20 Download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these locations: http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe Unzip to a folder other than your Desktop or the Temp folder, = doubleclick HijackThis.exe, and hit "Scan". =20 When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will change into a = "Save Log" button. Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it (Desktop, My = Documents, or similar). Most of what it lists will be harmless or even required, so do NOT fix anything yet. =20 Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at one of these = forums: http://forums.net-integration.net/ http://computercops.biz/forums.html http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showforum=3D30 http://tomcoyote.org/forums/ http://www.lavasoftsupport.com http://boards.cexx.org/ =20 The folks there will tell you what to remove. =20 A tutorial for using Hijack This is located he http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/ and an in-depth tutorial is he http://aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm =20 Additional reading: Dealing with Hijackware http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm#tshoot http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm =20 http://doxdesk.com/parasite/CoolWebSearch.html and http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html --=20 Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm =20 =20 =20 |
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Hi Glen
I got this far: 'Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at one of these forums: http://forums.net-integration.net/' Forum thread is: http://forums.net-integration.net/in...iew=getnewpost Cheers Ian F "glee" wrote in message ... I cannot find either System Check or SBOELoader in any compilation of startup apps, or anywhere else for that matter. I suggest this procedure, before you give up and reinstall: Update your anti-virus app and then run a full-system virus scan. Use CWShredder, the CoolWeb removal tool, available he http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://aumha.org/downloads/cwshredder.zip In addition, install Ad-Aware 6 free edition, start it, click its 'Check for Updates' link in the app to install updates, then use it to scan your system, and remove what it finds. Ad-Awa http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ Install, update and run SpyBot Search & Destroy, scan your system, and then remove the items in RED only. SpyBot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download Download, unzip, and run Hijack This from one of these locations: http://computercops.biz/downloads-cat-14.html http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloads31.html http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads...HijackThis.exe Unzip to a folder other than your Desktop or the Temp folder, doubleclick HijackThis.exe, and hit "Scan". When the scan is finished, the "Scan" button will change into a "Save Log" button. Press that, save the log somewhere you can find it (Desktop, My Documents, or similar). Most of what it lists will be harmless or even required, so do NOT fix anything yet. Copy the log files and paste them into a new post at one of these forums: http://forums.net-integration.net/ http://computercops.biz/forums.html http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showforum=30 http://tomcoyote.org/forums/ http://www.lavasoftsupport.com http://boards.cexx.org/ The folks there will tell you what to remove. A tutorial for using Hijack This is located he http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/ and an in-depth tutorial is he http://aumha.org/a/hjttutor.htm Additional reading: Dealing with Hijackware http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm http://www.mvps.org/inetexplorer/Darnit.htm#tshoot http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm http://doxdesk.com/parasite/CoolWebSearch.html and http://www.merijn.org/cwschronicles.html -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm |
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Desktop fails at boot W86se
Glad you got it fixed. Please note that the reason I told you to replace the check
mark for the unticked items in msconfig so that they would appear in your Hijack log, and then untick them again, is because you stated that you were having problems getting Windows to load when the items remained ticked (or so I understood). For the purpose of removing the malware, the items would have to be re-ticked for complete removal, as T-Zero properly noted. Looking at your later logs in that forum, it seems you had a number of unwanted baddies, and T-Zero's closing advice should certainly be followed. Good luck! -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Liz and Ian" wrote in message ... Pleased to report that things are now running better than before. Seems that I have picked up some malware that was stuffing things up. Thanks to Glee (on this news group) and T-Zero (forums.net-integration.net) I still need a larger drive, although some of the reasons have now partly eroded Ian f |
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