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  #111  
Old March 18th 07, 11:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.apps
Gary S. Terhune
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Posts: 147
Default Daylight Savings Patch


"PCR" wrote in message
...
OK, I'm taking it in now. Will report back after running it tonight or
tomorrow. That's really a masterful write-up of the situation at your
site-- very erudite! I'm pleased to see...

if not exist %windir%\TZ_BAK.REG start /wait regedit /e
%windir%\TZ_BAK.REG

..., by Blanton's hand, to make just one backup no matter how many times
this current time zone fix is run. After all, additional backups would
only save what this fix itself is putting into the Registry. HOWEVER,
if, as you say, the dates of the time change can change again-- then at
that time it SHOULD be this current fix's data that needs to be saved.
SO (if you haven't already thought of it), the next version of this fix
should REPLACE that line with...

if not exist %windir%\TZ_BAK01.REG start /wait regedit /e
%windir%\TZ_BAK01.REG

...And maybe figure a way to delete TZ_BAK.REG too -- or have Blanton
figure it -- & w/o an error message!


I'm thinking about it. Not really sure what I'll do between nopw and then.

Also, I see you have included a script to run the Time/Date Properties
requestor to complete the fix-- move the change into that other Registry
key. But I thought you had qualms about that-- that some would need to
switch the zone to another one? Anyway, I extracted & ran just that
script, & it seems to have worked. It opened & shut, after changing the
date back/forth to activate the Apply button. It was just slow enough
for me to see the button was activated.


As noted in the write-up, people need to make certain that their time zone
setting is correct after running the patch. Something in the patch may have
failed, or they may be in an entirely different time zone. We've heard now
that supposedly same systems were resulting differently. One thing I can
report is that VBScript has to be supported for teh new version to run. In
fact, I need to put back the old instructions for events in which the
VBScript fails.

Finally, where you say: "This latest version of the update resets the
Time/Date applet automatically, however a full restart of the system is
required in some cases." I think the case (in Win98 anyway) is that
Windows will only actually make the time change during a reboot-- on or
after the date of change has arrived. At least, that's how it went on a
friend's machine-- after he took your fix a day late!


Yes, that's the normal reason to reboot, though NT and 2K don't seem to even
require the reboot to effect the change in time when the patch is deployed
during daylight saving time. It happens right as the patch finishes. I
suggest the reboot just to make certain.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com



  #112  
Old March 19th 07, 01:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.apps
PCR
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Posts: 4,396
Default Daylight Savings Patch

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| OK, I'm taking it in now. Will report back after running it tonight
or
| tomorrow. That's really a masterful write-up of the situation at
your
| site-- very erudite! I'm pleased to see...
|
| if not exist %windir%\TZ_BAK.REG start /wait regedit /e
| %windir%\TZ_BAK.REG
|
| ..., by Blanton's hand, to make just one backup no matter how many
times
| this current time zone fix is run. After all, additional backups
would
| only save what this fix itself is putting into the Registry.
HOWEVER,
| if, as you say, the dates of the time change can change again-- then
at
| that time it SHOULD be this current fix's data that needs to be
saved.
| SO (if you haven't already thought of it), the next version of this
fix
| should REPLACE that line with...
|
| if not exist %windir%\TZ_BAK01.REG start /wait regedit /e
| %windir%\TZ_BAK01.REG
|
| ...And maybe figure a way to delete TZ_BAK.REG too -- or have
Blanton
| figure it -- & w/o an error message!
|
| I'm thinking about it. Not really sure what I'll do between nopw and
then.

Well, this seems to work by my testing...

IF EXIST %windir%\TZ_BAK01.reg GOTO Done
IF EXIST %windir%\TZ_BAK.reg DEL %windir%\TZ_BAK.reg
START /wait regedit /e %windir%\TZ_BAK01.reg
"HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Time
Zones"
one

SO... you end up with just a TZ_BAK01.reg next time & only once. It
isn't the greatest solution because you have to adjust for each new fix.
The one after that would need to delete the "01" & create an "02". I'm
sure there must be something even better that never would need
adjusting.

| Also, I see you have included a script to run the Time/Date
Properties
| requestor to complete the fix-- move the change into that other
Registry
| key. But I thought you had qualms about that-- that some would need
to
| switch the zone to another one? Anyway, I extracted & ran just that
| script, & it seems to have worked. It opened & shut, after changing
the
| date back/forth to activate the Apply button. It was just slow
enough
| for me to see the button was activated.
|
| As noted in the write-up, people need to make certain that their time
zone
| setting is correct after running the patch. Something in the patch may
have
| failed, or they may be in an entirely different time zone.

OK, fine, but move that into the instructions at bottom of the Readme,
which you didn't fully update. There no longer are error messages or
multiple backups...

........Quote the Readme..........
INSTRUCTIONS:

Download the appropriate EXE file using links below and run the EXE.
(I
suggest saving this Update for possible future needs.)

Your time zone information and the settings for your system will be
auto-
matically updated with one prompt for you to allow the Registry merge.
Ignore
"File not found" messages.

A backup of the previous Time Zones Registry key, named TZ_BAK.reg,
will be saved to your Windows directory. If you perform the procedure
more
than once, the older backup file will have a numerical extension, e.g.
TZ_REG.001. The highest numbered backup is the oldest, i.e., the
original.
........EOQ.............................

| We've heard now
| that supposedly same systems were resulting differently. One thing I
can
| report is that VBScript has to be supported for teh new version to
run. In
| fact, I need to put back the old instructions for events in which the
| VBScript fails.

It worked for me in 98SE. Not sure, but I may have a while ago updated
the script engine.

| Finally, where you say: "This latest version of the update resets
the
| Time/Date applet automatically, however a full restart of the system
is
| required in some cases." I think the case (in Win98 anyway) is that
| Windows will only actually make the time change during a reboot-- on
or
| after the date of change has arrived. At least, that's how it went
on a
| friend's machine-- after he took your fix a day late!
|
| Yes, that's the normal reason to reboot, though NT and 2K don't seem
to even
| require the reboot to effect the change in time when the patch is
deployed
| during daylight saving time. It happens right as the patch finishes. I
| suggest the reboot just to make certain.

OK, then.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
|


  #113  
Old March 19th 07, 04:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.apps
Gary S. Terhune
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 147
Default Daylight Savings Patch

I like that one. Nice and elegant.

The Readmes and the online discussion both need updating. Maybe this week,
I'll feel up to it. I'll also leave other versions (plain old REG files and
the old EXE), just for the do-it-yourselfers. I'll also explain what to do
in case of script errors, and that if you *don't* get prompts to allow REG
merge, there's a problem. See if I can do all that without being too
confusing, w..

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

"PCR" wrote in message
...


Well, this seems to work by my testing...

IF EXIST %windir%\TZ_BAK01.reg GOTO Done
IF EXIST %windir%\TZ_BAK.reg DEL %windir%\TZ_BAK.reg
START /wait regedit /e %windir%\TZ_BAK01.reg
"HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Time
Zones"
one

SO... you end up with just a TZ_BAK01.reg next time & only once. It
isn't the greatest solution because you have to adjust for each new fix.
The one after that would need to delete the "01" & create an "02". I'm
sure there must be something even better that never would need
adjusting.

| Also, I see you have included a script to run the Time/Date
Properties
| requestor to complete the fix-- move the change into that other
Registry
| key. But I thought you had qualms about that-- that some would need
to
| switch the zone to another one? Anyway, I extracted & ran just that
| script, & it seems to have worked. It opened & shut, after changing
the
| date back/forth to activate the Apply button. It was just slow
enough
| for me to see the button was activated.
|
| As noted in the write-up, people need to make certain that their time
zone
| setting is correct after running the patch. Something in the patch may
have
| failed, or they may be in an entirely different time zone.

OK, fine, but move that into the instructions at bottom of the Readme,
which you didn't fully update. There no longer are error messages or
multiple backups...

.......Quote the Readme..........
INSTRUCTIONS:

Download the appropriate EXE file using links below and run the EXE.
(I
suggest saving this Update for possible future needs.)

Your time zone information and the settings for your system will be
auto-
matically updated with one prompt for you to allow the Registry merge.
Ignore
"File not found" messages.

A backup of the previous Time Zones Registry key, named TZ_BAK.reg,
will be saved to your Windows directory. If you perform the procedure
more
than once, the older backup file will have a numerical extension, e.g.
TZ_REG.001. The highest numbered backup is the oldest, i.e., the
original.
.......EOQ.............................

| We've heard now
| that supposedly same systems were resulting differently. One thing I
can
| report is that VBScript has to be supported for teh new version to
run. In
| fact, I need to put back the old instructions for events in which the
| VBScript fails.

It worked for me in 98SE. Not sure, but I may have a while ago updated
the script engine.

| Finally, where you say: "This latest version of the update resets
the
| Time/Date applet automatically, however a full restart of the system
is
| required in some cases." I think the case (in Win98 anyway) is that
| Windows will only actually make the time change during a reboot-- on
or
| after the date of change has arrived. At least, that's how it went
on a
| friend's machine-- after he took your fix a day late!
|
| Yes, that's the normal reason to reboot, though NT and 2K don't seem
to even
| require the reboot to effect the change in time when the patch is
deployed
| during daylight saving time. It happens right as the patch finishes. I
| suggest the reboot just to make certain.

OK, then.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
|
|




  #114  
Old March 19th 07, 11:11 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.apps
PCR
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 4,396
Default Daylight Savings Patch

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| I like that one. Nice and elegant.

Thanks. Once I was a computer programmer, but not on these computers.

| The Readmes and the online discussion both need updating. Maybe this
week,
| I'll feel up to it. I'll also leave other versions (plain old REG
files and
| the old EXE), just for the do-it-yourselfers. I'll also explain what
to do
| in case of script errors, and that if you *don't* get prompts to allow
REG
| merge, there's a problem. See if I can do all that without being too
| confusing, w..

I hope you do feel up to it.

| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS-MVP Shell/User
| www.grystmill.com
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
|
|
| Well, this seems to work by my testing...
|
| IF EXIST %windir%\TZ_BAK01.reg GOTO Done
| IF EXIST %windir%\TZ_BAK.reg DEL %windir%\TZ_BAK.reg
| START /wait regedit /e %windir%\TZ_BAK01.reg
| "HKEY_Local_Machine\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Time
| Zones"
| one
|
| SO... you end up with just a TZ_BAK01.reg next time & only once. It
| isn't the greatest solution because you have to adjust for each new
fix.
| The one after that would need to delete the "01" & create an "02".
I'm
| sure there must be something even better that never would need
| adjusting.
|
| | Also, I see you have included a script to run the Time/Date
| Properties
| | requestor to complete the fix-- move the change into that other
| Registry
| | key. But I thought you had qualms about that-- that some would
need
| to
| | switch the zone to another one? Anyway, I extracted & ran just
that
| | script, & it seems to have worked. It opened & shut, after
changing
| the
| | date back/forth to activate the Apply button. It was just slow
| enough
| | for me to see the button was activated.
| |
| | As noted in the write-up, people need to make certain that their
time
| zone
| | setting is correct after running the patch. Something in the patch
may
| have
| | failed, or they may be in an entirely different time zone.
|
| OK, fine, but move that into the instructions at bottom of the
Readme,
| which you didn't fully update. There no longer are error messages or
| multiple backups...
|
| .......Quote the Readme..........
| INSTRUCTIONS:
|
| Download the appropriate EXE file using links below and run the
EXE.
| (I
| suggest saving this Update for possible future needs.)
|
| Your time zone information and the settings for your system will
be
| auto-
| matically updated with one prompt for you to allow the Registry
merge.
| Ignore
| "File not found" messages.
|
| A backup of the previous Time Zones Registry key, named
TZ_BAK.reg,
| will be saved to your Windows directory. If you perform the
procedure
| more
| than once, the older backup file will have a numerical extension,
e.g.
| TZ_REG.001. The highest numbered backup is the oldest, i.e., the
| original.
| .......EOQ.............................
|
| | We've heard now
| | that supposedly same systems were resulting differently. One thing
I
| can
| | report is that VBScript has to be supported for teh new version to
| run. In
| | fact, I need to put back the old instructions for events in which
the
| | VBScript fails.
|
| It worked for me in 98SE. Not sure, but I may have a while ago
updated
| the script engine.
|
| | Finally, where you say: "This latest version of the update
resets
| the
| | Time/Date applet automatically, however a full restart of the
system
| is
| | required in some cases." I think the case (in Win98 anyway) is
that
| | Windows will only actually make the time change during a
reboot-- on
| or
| | after the date of change has arrived. At least, that's how it
went
| on a
| | friend's machine-- after he took your fix a day late!
| |
| | Yes, that's the normal reason to reboot, though NT and 2K don't
seem
| to even
| | require the reboot to effect the change in time when the patch is
| deployed
| | during daylight saving time. It happens right as the patch
finishes. I
| | suggest the reboot just to make certain.
|
| OK, then.
|
| | --
| | Gary S. Terhune
| | MS-MVP Shell/User
| | www.grystmill.com
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|


 




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