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I have upgraded my computer to:
P4 2.8E GHZ 512 MB ram P4P800 Asus Motherboard Geforce 2 MX400 (From old computer) DVD & Cd Burner (From old computer) Maxtor 40Gb 2Mb cache 7200 RPM 100ATA (From old computer) IBM 12 Gb 2mb cache 7200 RPM 66ATA (From old computer) O/S Win ME My computer is choppy in everything and very slow. My CPU temperature never goes over 49C / 120F. I have no hardware conflict and have all up to date Drivers. I have run the PCpitstop benchmark and some others and obtained those results: -My harddrives score very low at 0.36 MB/sec (I had run scandisk and Defrag before testing session) -My CPU load is alway at 100% (I had disable CPU cooling software) This new computer run slower than my PIII 500 MHz. I had to disable HT tech because ME doesn't support it. What can I do to get some speed: Is my video card slowing everything down? Should I update to Windows XP? Any solutions out there.... Thanks Pat |
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Well, you can upgrade to XP if you want (though does the MX400 have XP
drivers? better check), and it will possibly cure your problems, simply because you're installing fresh, but reinstalling ME would have the same effect (if any). Your HD and CPU benchmarks are ridiculous though. I suspect some sort of pest and/or incredibly crappy system settings. But first things, first: Did you disable HT properly ? Is it still slow in SafeMode? Rick Pat wrote: I have upgraded my computer to: P4 2.8E GHZ 512 MB ram P4P800 Asus Motherboard Geforce 2 MX400 (From old computer) DVD & Cd Burner (From old computer) Maxtor 40Gb 2Mb cache 7200 RPM 100ATA (From old computer) IBM 12 Gb 2mb cache 7200 RPM 66ATA (From old computer) O/S Win ME My computer is choppy in everything and very slow. My CPU temperature never goes over 49C / 120F. I have no hardware conflict and have all up to date Drivers. I have run the PCpitstop benchmark and some others and obtained those results: -My harddrives score very low at 0.36 MB/sec (I had run scandisk and Defrag before testing session) -My CPU load is alway at 100% (I had disable CPU cooling software) This new computer run slower than my PIII 500 MHz. I had to disable HT tech because ME doesn't support it. What can I do to get some speed: Is my video card slowing everything down? Should I update to Windows XP? Any solutions out there.... Thanks Pat |
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1) your "Kernel Processor Usage" issue.
MS System Monitor is known to utilize a faulty algorithm to measure "cpu usage", or "load". Obtain the free MS "process viewer" tool, Wintop, at http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/d...oy/default.asp or the free "Process Explorer" www.sysinternals.com 2) Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks: http://support.microsoft.com/support.../Q130/1/79.asp MS-DOS Compatibility Mode Problems with PCI IDE Controllers http://support.microsoft.com/support.../q151/9/11.asp Look for a copy of the free HD test program, HDTach, to evaluate disk I/O. 3) New M/B installation You will likely need to reinstall Windows over itself after swapping motherboards, especially if this is a major change in hardware (P3 to Athlon, Celeron to P4, etc) due to a special driver file named "VMM32.VXD". This file is custom-built when you install Windows, has the CPU and motherboard-level drivers in it, and can only be rebuilt by reinstalling Windows. Your previously-installed software and documents should survive the reinstall OK but you'll need to reinstall all Windows updates again. Also, if you have installed Windows Media Player Beta 9, you'll need to take some special precautions before reinstalling - let me know if that's the case. -- Richard G. Harper (MVP Win9x 1/07/2003 ------ Before you reinstall, assuming you have a retail Windows (9X) disc, do this: 1. Make a bootable floppy disk and make sure you can boot from it and see your Windows CD-ROM disc with it. 2. Before you shut down Windows to replace your hardware, use SCANREGW.EXE to make a backup copy of the Registry, then delete the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum branch of the Registry. This removes all hardware data from the Registry. 3. Restart in MS-DOS Mode, find the file VMM32.VXD in the \Windows\System directory and rename it to VMM32.OLD 4. Finally, shut down, boot with the floppy, reinstall Windows. -- Richard G. Harper (MVP MPS-D) ---- Repost with additional information after reviewing the above suggestions. If your finances permit, I strongly urge you to replace the ATA66 HD with a ATA100 or 133 and to replace the now ancient MX400 video card. Create a 2.1 GB primary partition, using 4 KB cluster size, at the start of the second drive and move the swapfile to it, leaving only a 50 MB swapfile on the first drive for backward compatibility. This will increase disk performance. A nVidia 5200 or ATI 9200 should be your minimal consideration --- ca. $US 50-70 at many internet vendors. Whichever you choose, confirm that it will support most DX 9.b features in hardware. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-04 MVP for Win9X / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Your cooperation is very appreciated. ____ "Rick T" wrote in message ... Well, you can upgrade to XP if you want (though does the MX400 have XP drivers? better check), and it will possibly cure your problems, simply because you're installing fresh, but reinstalling ME would have the same effect (if any). Your HD and CPU benchmarks are ridiculous though. I suspect some sort of pest and/or incredibly crappy system settings. But first things, first: Did you disable HT properly ? Is it still slow in SafeMode? Rick Pat wrote: I have upgraded my computer to: P4 2.8E GHZ 512 MB ram P4P800 Asus Motherboard Geforce 2 MX400 (From old computer) DVD & Cd Burner (From old computer) Maxtor 40Gb 2Mb cache 7200 RPM 100ATA (From old computer) IBM 12 Gb 2mb cache 7200 RPM 66ATA (From old computer) O/S Win ME My computer is choppy in everything and very slow. My CPU temperature never goes over 49C / 120F. I have no hardware conflict and have all up to date Drivers. I have run the PCpitstop benchmark and some others and obtained those results: -My harddrives score very low at 0.36 MB/sec (I had run scandisk and Defrag before testing session) -My CPU load is alway at 100% (I had disable CPU cooling software) This new computer run slower than my PIII 500 MHz. I had to disable HT tech because ME doesn't support it. What can I do to get some speed: Is my video card slowing everything down? Should I update to Windows XP? Any solutions out there.... Thanks Pat |
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Thank you very much for all you sugeestion.
I have downloaded Process Explorer and realized that one signle program was causing errors and holding my CPU load between 95% to 99%... Since I have removed it (not really useful anyway) and my CPU load at idle is running at 3% to 5%. I have use Pcpitstop again and got a very good score this time. My temperatur of my CPU is running now between 37C to 41C a difference of 10C I will change my Video card next month for a ATI 9600 XT and also probably upgrade to Windows XP Thank you veru much. Pat -----Original Message----- 1) your "Kernel Processor Usage" issue. MS System Monitor is known to utilize a faulty algorithm to measure "cpu usage", or "load". Obtain the free MS "process viewer" tool, Wintop, at http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/d.../contents/wuto ys/w95kerneltoy/default.asp or the free "Process Explorer" www.sysinternals.com 2) Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks: http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/Q130/1/79 ..asp MS-DOS Compatibility Mode Problems with PCI IDE Controllers http://support.microsoft.com/support...cles/q151/9/11 ..asp Look for a copy of the free HD test program, HDTach, to evaluate disk I/O. 3) New M/B installation You will likely need to reinstall Windows over itself after swapping motherboards, especially if this is a major change in hardware (P3 to Athlon, Celeron to P4, etc) due to a special driver file named "VMM32.VXD". This file is custom-built when you install Windows, has the CPU and motherboard-level drivers in it, and can only be rebuilt by reinstalling Windows. Your previously-installed software and documents should survive the reinstall OK but you'll need to reinstall all Windows updates again. Also, if you have installed Windows Media Player Beta 9, you'll need to take some special precautions before reinstalling - let me know if that's the case. -- Richard G. Harper (MVP Win9x 1/07/2003 ------ Before you reinstall, assuming you have a retail Windows (9X) disc, do this: 1. Make a bootable floppy disk and make sure you can boot from it and see your Windows CD-ROM disc with it. 2. Before you shut down Windows to replace your hardware, use SCANREGW.EXE to make a backup copy of the Registry, then delete the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum branch of the Registry. This removes all hardware data from the Registry. 3. Restart in MS-DOS Mode, find the file VMM32.VXD in the \Windows\System directory and rename it to VMM32.OLD 4. Finally, shut down, boot with the floppy, reinstall Windows. -- Richard G. Harper (MVP MPS-D) ---- Repost with additional information after reviewing the above suggestions. If your finances permit, I strongly urge you to replace the ATA66 HD with a ATA100 or 133 and to replace the now ancient MX400 video card. Create a 2.1 GB primary partition, using 4 KB cluster size, at the start of the second drive and move the swapfile to it, leaving only a 50 MB swapfile on the first drive for backward compatibility. This will increase disk performance. A nVidia 5200 or ATI 9200 should be your minimal consideration --- ca. $US 50-70 at many internet vendors. Whichever you choose, confirm that it will support most DX 9.b features in hardware. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-04 MVP for Win9X / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Your cooperation is very appreciated. ____ "Rick T" wrote in message ... Well, you can upgrade to XP if you want (though does the MX400 have XP drivers? better check), and it will possibly cure your problems, simply because you're installing fresh, but reinstalling ME would have the same effect (if any). Your HD and CPU benchmarks are ridiculous though. I suspect some sort of pest and/or incredibly crappy system settings. But first things, first: Did you disable HT properly ? Is it still slow in SafeMode? Rick Pat wrote: I have upgraded my computer to: P4 2.8E GHZ 512 MB ram P4P800 Asus Motherboard Geforce 2 MX400 (From old computer) DVD & Cd Burner (From old computer) Maxtor 40Gb 2Mb cache 7200 RPM 100ATA (From old computer) IBM 12 Gb 2mb cache 7200 RPM 66ATA (From old computer) O/S Win ME My computer is choppy in everything and very slow. My CPU temperature never goes over 49C / 120F. I have no hardware conflict and have all up to date Drivers. I have run the PCpitstop benchmark and some others and obtained those results: -My harddrives score very low at 0.36 MB/sec (I had run scandisk and Defrag before testing session) -My CPU load is alway at 100% (I had disable CPU cooling software) This new computer run slower than my PIII 500 MHz. I had to disable HT tech because ME doesn't support it. What can I do to get some speed: Is my video card slowing everything down? Should I update to Windows XP? Any solutions out there.... Thanks Pat . |
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Sorry I did forgot to say who was the villain...
It was a file name: TCAUDIAG.EXE It is a diagnostic for my 3COM ethernet port. I did try to use it before removing it and it keep crashing my system. I never use it before so I just kicked out.... Thanks Pat -----Original Message----- wrote: Thank you very much for all you sugeestion. I have downloaded Process Explorer and realized that one signle program was causing errors and holding my CPU load between 95% to 99%... and the villain was ... ? Rick . |
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-----Original Message----- Thank you very much for all you sugeestion. I have downloaded Process Explorer and realized that one signle program was causing errors and holding my CPU load between 95% to 99%... Since I have removed it (not really useful anyway) and my CPU load at idle is running at 3% to 5%. I have use Pcpitstop again and got a very good score this time. My temperatur of my CPU is running now between 37C to 41C a difference of 10C I will change my Video card next month for a ATI 9600 XT and also probably upgrade to Windows XP Thank you veru much. Pat -----Original Message----- 1) your "Kernel Processor Usage" issue. MS System Monitor is known to utilize a faulty algorithm to measure "cpu usage", or "load". Obtain the free MS "process viewer" tool, Wintop, at http://www.microsoft.com/windows95/d...s/contents/wut o ys/w95kerneltoy/default.asp or the free "Process Explorer" www.sysinternals.com 2) Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks: http://support.microsoft.com/support...icles/Q130/1/7 9 ..asp MS-DOS Compatibility Mode Problems with PCI IDE Controllers http://support.microsoft.com/support...icles/q151/9/1 1 ..asp Look for a copy of the free HD test program, HDTach, to evaluate disk I/O. 3) New M/B installation You will likely need to reinstall Windows over itself after swapping motherboards, especially if this is a major change in hardware (P3 to Athlon, Celeron to P4, etc) due to a special driver file named "VMM32.VXD". This file is custom-built when you install Windows, has the CPU and motherboard-level drivers in it, and can only be rebuilt by reinstalling Windows. Your previously-installed software and documents should survive the reinstall OK but you'll need to reinstall all Windows updates again. Also, if you have installed Windows Media Player Beta 9, you'll need to take some special precautions before reinstalling - let me know if that's the case. -- Richard G. Harper (MVP Win9x 1/07/2003 ------ Before you reinstall, assuming you have a retail Windows (9X) disc, do this: 1. Make a bootable floppy disk and make sure you can boot from it and see your Windows CD-ROM disc with it. 2. Before you shut down Windows to replace your hardware, use SCANREGW.EXE to make a backup copy of the Registry, then delete the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum branch of the Registry. This removes all hardware data from the Registry. 3. Restart in MS-DOS Mode, find the file VMM32.VXD in the \Windows\System directory and rename it to VMM32.OLD 4. Finally, shut down, boot with the floppy, reinstall Windows. -- Richard G. Harper (MVP MPS-D) ---- Repost with additional information after reviewing the above suggestions. If your finances permit, I strongly urge you to replace the ATA66 HD with a ATA100 or 133 and to replace the now ancient MX400 video card. Create a 2.1 GB primary partition, using 4 KB cluster size, at the start of the second drive and move the swapfile to it, leaving only a 50 MB swapfile on the first drive for backward compatibility. This will increase disk performance. A nVidia 5200 or ATI 9200 should be your minimal consideration --- ca. $US 50-70 at many internet vendors. Whichever you choose, confirm that it will support most DX 9.b features in hardware. -- Jack E. Martinelli 2002-04 MVP for Win9X / DTS Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/ Your cooperation is very appreciated. ____ "Rick T" wrote in message ... Well, you can upgrade to XP if you want (though does the MX400 have XP drivers? better check), and it will possibly cure your problems, simply because you're installing fresh, but reinstalling ME would have the same effect (if any). Your HD and CPU benchmarks are ridiculous though. I suspect some sort of pest and/or incredibly crappy system settings. But first things, first: Did you disable HT properly ? Is it still slow in SafeMode? Rick Pat wrote: I have upgraded my computer to: P4 2.8E GHZ 512 MB ram P4P800 Asus Motherboard Geforce 2 MX400 (From old computer) DVD & Cd Burner (From old computer) Maxtor 40Gb 2Mb cache 7200 RPM 100ATA (From old computer) IBM 12 Gb 2mb cache 7200 RPM 66ATA (From old computer) O/S Win ME My computer is choppy in everything and very slow. My CPU temperature never goes over 49C / 120F. I have no hardware conflict and have all up to date Drivers. I have run the PCpitstop benchmark and some others and obtained those results: -My harddrives score very low at 0.36 MB/sec (I had run scandisk and Defrag before testing session) -My CPU load is alway at 100% (I had disable CPU cooling software) This new computer run slower than my PIII 500 MHz. I had to disable HT tech because ME doesn't support it. What can I do to get some speed: Is my video card slowing everything down? Should I update to Windows XP? Any solutions out there.... Thanks Pat . If your running both hard drives on the same IDE 1 make sure your jumper setting are correct with master slave and ...even tho they are the same speed..the busing is different...1's ata100 and the other ata66..which ever is the slowest hardware on a ribbion or usbline that is that your transfer rate will be. Also you might want to check if your SDRAM is compatible with MB chipset and It might be faulty. cheap or bad mem. makes the system unstable and slow. hope this helps Ro . |
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Although not directly connected with the original poster's query, I am
interested in the CPU usage anomaly. I have MBM5 which reports consistanly 30 to 50 % CPU usage, also a small program "TClock" which enhances the Windows clock, this also shows a "high" CPU usage. I also have Wintop and Process Explorer which shows CPU "idle" at 99% to about 99.5%, I have often wondered which one is correct. Any thoughts on the matter? I am running Windows ME with 512Mb Ram and Athlon XP 2600+ if that is any help. Thanks - Rob --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 18/05/2004 |
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Rob,
WinTop and Process Explorer are correct as should be apparent from the total cpu% of all running processes (including naturally "idle") totalling 100% at all times irrespective of load. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Robert Creasey pattayalobatremovethisevemail.net wrote: Although not directly connected with the original poster's query, I am interested in the CPU usage anomaly. I have MBM5 which reports consistanly 30 to 50 % CPU usage, also a small program "TClock" which enhances the Windows clock, this also shows a "high" CPU usage. I also have Wintop and Process Explorer which shows CPU "idle" at 99% to about 99.5%, I have often wondered which one is correct. Any thoughts on the matter? I am running Windows ME with 512Mb Ram and Athlon XP 2600+ if that is any help. |
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