Please help me recover photos of my newborn

- Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
- Press ALT, then F, then S
- Press ALT, then F, then X

The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rbryan" wrote in message
...
Hey PCR,
I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In fact, I
thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't even find out
if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager (whatever that
is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so I'm convinced
I'm following them properly. So why when I change shell=Explorer.exe to
shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I could just get
past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give the rest
of the directions a shot.


"PCR" wrote:

Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it you
haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have very
nearly your precise error message...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible
| solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry
out the
| solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help,
please
| assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this
| potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a
recipe.
|
| Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found,
and here’s the
| problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
|
| THE PROBLEM
|
| Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the
opening
| backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an
illegal
| operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an
| invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no
choice
| but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper
and a
| useless mouse.
| The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something
I’ve read
| has happened to other people as well.
|
| THE SOLUTION
|
| Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else
for this
| very problem:
|
| (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
|
| (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold
CTRL
| as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in
one-second
| intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft
Windows
| Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts
up
| normally, repeat this step.
|
| (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
|
| (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe"
text
| and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
following:
| Shell=Winfile.exe
|
| (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the
Windows
| File Manager (Winfile.exe).
|
| (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left
hand
| window to open the Program Files folder.
|
| (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the
| Internet Explorer folder.
|
| (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup
| folder.
|
| (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right
hand
| window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
|
| NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not
| been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be
| restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, &
post
| back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an
| over-install of IE.
|
| (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click
OK.
|
| (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
previous
| version of Internet Explorer.
|
| (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
|
| (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows
dialog
| box, click Restart Windows.
|
| When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or
begin
| pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this
| step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If
no
| menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step.
|
| (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
|
| (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe"
| text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the
| following: Shell=Explorer.exe
|
| (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
|
| (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| Explorer again.
|
|
| MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
|
| Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I
| successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to
| shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe).
But then
| when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager
coming
| up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it
did
| before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my
head
| and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
|
| Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this
fix? If
| not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that
came with
| the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been
told
| that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded
onto my
| computer.
|
| Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly
| appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear
I’ll
| never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded
into
| the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for
any
| assistance.
|

UPDATE;
PCR, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong, though my problem
still isn't solved. Remember when i said I had zero computer knowledge? Well,
after changing the shell, I was using my emergency start-up disk on the
restart. When I stopped doing that, I was whisked into the Windows File
Manager.
Unfortuantely, after following the steps you laid out, I found that
nothing was available to me under setup.exe (step 12). So I moved to your
next suggestion, where you go into the program manager, type in "control
appwiz.cpl, go navigate to the install/uninstall tab, and then try to repair
Internet Explorer. Unfortunately on that one, under the install/uninstall
tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas there?
If that doesn't work, the only other solution I've seen is this one. It
seems to easy work, and I'm afraid to try it without someone advising me that
it's safe. That solution simply said at the command prompt, type scanreg /
restore to restore the latest registry backup. Is that a possible solution?
If so, are there spaces between scanreg and restore?
Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer.



"glee" wrote:

- Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
- Press ALT, then F, then S
- Press ALT, then F, then X

The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rbryan" wrote in message
...
Hey PCR,
I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In fact, I
thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't even find out
if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager (whatever that
is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so I'm convinced
I'm following them properly. So why when I change shell=Explorer.exe to
shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I could just get
past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give the rest
of the directions a shot.


"PCR" wrote:

Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it you
haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have very
nearly your precise error message...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible
| solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry
out the
| solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help,
please
| assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this
| potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a
recipe.
|
| Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found,
and here’s the
| problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
|
| THE PROBLEM
|
| Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the
opening
| backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an
illegal
| operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an
| invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no
choice
| but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper
and a
| useless mouse.
| The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something
I’ve read
| has happened to other people as well.
|
| THE SOLUTION
|
| Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else
for this
| very problem:
|
| (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
|
| (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold
CTRL
| as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in
one-second
| intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft
Windows
| Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts
up
| normally, repeat this step.
|
| (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
|
| (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe"
text
| and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
following:
| Shell=Winfile.exe
|
| (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the
Windows
| File Manager (Winfile.exe).
|
| (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left
hand
| window to open the Program Files folder.
|
| (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the
| Internet Explorer folder.
|
| (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup
| folder.
|
| (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right
hand
| window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
|
| NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not
| been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be
| restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, &
post
| back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an
| over-install of IE.
|
| (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click
OK.
|
| (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
previous
| version of Internet Explorer.
|
| (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
|
| (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows
dialog
| box, click Restart Windows.
|
| When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or
begin
| pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this
| step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If
no
| menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step.
|
| (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
|
| (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe"
| text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the
| following: Shell=Explorer.exe
|
| (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
|
| (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| Explorer again.
|
|
| MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
|
| Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I
| successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to
| shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe).
But then
| when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager
coming
| up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it
did
| before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my
head
| and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
|
| Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this
fix? If
| not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that
came with
| the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been
told
| that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded
onto my
| computer.
|
| Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly
| appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear
I’ll
| never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded
into
| the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for
any
| assistance.
|

While you have Winfile or Progman as your shell, try this procedure instead of the
one PCR gave you:

Recovering From a Failed Internet Explorer Upgrade in Windows 98:
http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~gjjones/admin...nd ows98.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/r5ba

Especially this section at the end:

"If you still have boot problems after you reboot, you should use the command prompt
to edit the c:\windows\system.ini file. On the command line type edit
c:\windows\system.ini.

"Once it is open, change the line shell=explorer.exe to shell=progman.exe. What you
are doing here is changing the default shell (that is having problems) from the
Windows Explorer to the old Windows Program Manager shell.

"Reboot Windows. It should now successfully boot with no errors into an empty
Program Manager shell. Use the File | Run | Browse drop down menu selection to
browse to c:\program files\internet explorer and launch ie5setup.exe or ie6setup.exe
(depending on what is there). Do a Minimal-Custom install and check all the
Bold-faced options. When the setup program alerts you that these files are already
installed, tell it to reinstall all of the files.

"When the Internet Explorer Setup program is done and reboots, hit the F8 key to
bring up a Boot Menu. Choose Command Prompt and boot to the command prompt. Once
there, type edit c:\windows\system.ini and, once it is open, change the line
shell=progman.exe back to shell=explorer.exe. Save and exit the file. You have now
set the shell back to the original value."
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rbryan" wrote in message
...
UPDATE;
PCR, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong, though my problem
still isn't solved. Remember when i said I had zero computer knowledge? Well,
after changing the shell, I was using my emergency start-up disk on the
restart. When I stopped doing that, I was whisked into the Windows File
Manager.
Unfortuantely, after following the steps you laid out, I found that
nothing was available to me under setup.exe (step 12). So I moved to your
next suggestion, where you go into the program manager, type in "control
appwiz.cpl, go navigate to the install/uninstall tab, and then try to repair
Internet Explorer. Unfortunately on that one, under the install/uninstall
tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas there?
If that doesn't work, the only other solution I've seen is this one. It
seems to easy work, and I'm afraid to try it without someone advising me that
it's safe. That solution simply said at the command prompt, type scanreg /
restore to restore the latest registry backup. Is that a possible solution?
If so, are there spaces between scanreg and restore?
Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer.



"glee" wrote:

- Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
- Press ALT, then F, then S
- Press ALT, then F, then X

The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rbryan" wrote in message
...
Hey PCR,
I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In fact, I
thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't even find out
if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager (whatever that
is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so I'm convinced
I'm following them properly. So why when I change shell=Explorer.exe to
shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I could just get
past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give the rest
of the directions a shot.


"PCR" wrote:

Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it you
haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have very
nearly your precise error message...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible
| solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry
out the
| solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help,
please
| assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this
| potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a
recipe.
|
| Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found,
and here’s the
| problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
|
| THE PROBLEM
|
| Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the
opening
| backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an
illegal
| operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an
| invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no
choice
| but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper
and a
| useless mouse.
| The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something
I’ve read
| has happened to other people as well.
|
| THE SOLUTION
|
| Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else
for this
| very problem:
|
| (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
|
| (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold
CTRL
| as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in
one-second
| intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft
Windows
| Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts
up
| normally, repeat this step.
|
| (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
|
| (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe"
text
| and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
following:
| Shell=Winfile.exe
|
| (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the
Windows
| File Manager (Winfile.exe).
|
| (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left
hand
| window to open the Program Files folder.
|
| (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the
| Internet Explorer folder.
|
| (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup
| folder.
|
| (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right
hand
| window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
|
| NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not
| been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be
| restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, &
post
| back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an
| over-install of IE.
|
| (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click
OK.
|
| (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
previous
| version of Internet Explorer.
|
| (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
|
| (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows
dialog
| box, click Restart Windows.
|
| When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or
begin
| pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this
| step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If
no
| menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step.
|
| (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
|
| (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe"
| text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the
| following: Shell=Explorer.exe
|
| (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
|
| (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| Explorer again.
|
|
| MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
|
| Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I
| successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to
| shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe).
But then
| when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager
coming
| up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it
did
| before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my
head
| and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
|
| Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this
fix? If
| not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that
came with
| the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been
told
| that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded
onto my
| computer.
|
| Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly
| appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear
I’ll
| never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded
into
| the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for
any
| assistance.
|

If you want to try scanreg /restore, you must choose a backup dated just prior to
your problems....the most recent date before that date. Anything very old will not
include any of your newly installed programs or updates in the Registry.
You can boot from the boot floppy or boot with the boot menu to Command Prompt Only,
then type:
scanreg /restore

(scanreg space /restore)
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
UPDATE;
PCR, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong, though my problem
still isn't solved. Remember when i said I had zero computer knowledge? Well,
after changing the shell, I was using my emergency start-up disk on the
restart. When I stopped doing that, I was whisked into the Windows File
Manager.
Unfortuantely, after following the steps you laid out, I found that
nothing was available to me under setup.exe (step 12). So I moved to your
next suggestion, where you go into the program manager, type in "control
appwiz.cpl, go navigate to the install/uninstall tab, and then try to repair
Internet Explorer. Unfortunately on that one, under the install/uninstall
tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas there?
If that doesn't work, the only other solution I've seen is this one. It
seems to easy work, and I'm afraid to try it without someone advising me that
it's safe. That solution simply said at the command prompt, type scanreg /
restore to restore the latest registry backup. Is that a possible solution?
If so, are there spaces between scanreg and restore?
Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer.



"glee" wrote:

- Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
- Press ALT, then F, then S
- Press ALT, then F, then X

The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rbryan" wrote in message
...
Hey PCR,
I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In fact, I
thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't even find out
if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager (whatever that
is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so I'm convinced
I'm following them properly. So why when I change shell=Explorer.exe to
shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I could just get
past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give the rest
of the directions a shot.


"PCR" wrote:

Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it you
haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have very
nearly your precise error message...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a possible
| solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my computer to carry
out the
| solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer me help,
please
| assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even with this
| potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old trying to follow a
recipe.
|
| Here’s the problem, here’s the potential solution I’ve found,
and here’s the
| problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
|
| THE PROBLEM
|
| Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to the
opening
| backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has performed an
illegal
| operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer caused an
| invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I have no
choice
| but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just wallpaper
and a
| useless mouse.
| The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program – something
I’ve read
| has happened to other people as well.
|
| THE SOLUTION
|
| Here’s something I found that someone suggested to someone else
for this
| very problem:
|
| (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
|
| (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the computer. Hold
CTRL
| as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key in
one-second
| intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the Microsoft
Windows
| Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows starts
up
| normally, repeat this step.
|
| (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
|
| (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the "Explorer.exe"
text
| and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
following:
| Shell=Winfile.exe
|
| (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts into the
Windows
| File Manager (Winfile.exe).
|
| (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the left
hand
| window to open the Program Files folder.
|
| (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open the
| Internet Explorer folder.
|
| (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the Setup
| folder.
|
| (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in the right
hand
| window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
|
| NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer has not
| been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer cannot be
| restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut down, &
post
| back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is an
| over-install of IE.
|
| (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup window, click
OK.
|
| (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
previous
| version of Internet Explorer.
|
| (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
|
| (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart Windows
dialog
| box, click Restart Windows.
|
| When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup Menu, or
begin
| pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete this
| step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is displayed. If
no
| menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this step.
|
| (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys to
select
| Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
|
| (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| Press ENTER.
|
| (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text under
the
| [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is typically the
third
| line in the file.
|
| (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the "Winfile.exe"
| text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should list the
| following: Shell=Explorer.exe
|
| (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
|
| (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. Press the
X key
| to exit.
|
| (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB
| would move you to the next button.)
|
| (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing the
| CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
|
| (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| Explorer again.
|
|
| MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
|
| Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get past step #8. I
| successfully get to the point where I change shell=explorer.exe to
| shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix, shell=progman.exe).
But then
| when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file manager
coming
| up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same way it
did
| before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but shake my
head
| and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
|
| Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try this
fix? If
| not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk that
came with
| the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and have been
told
| that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I had loaded
onto my
| computer.
|
| Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be greatly
| appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and I fear
I’ll
| never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently downloaded
into
| the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in advance for
any
| assistance.
|

Shhhh!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| PCR wrote:
| THOSE were MY directions, & there's NOTHING wrong with them, except
| they may not work for every possible ill.
|
| LOL. Well.yeah, that's what's wrong with them! Are you trying to
| confuse us now, PCR? What kind of deal is this?
|
|

(5) To save the changes...
(a) Press the ALT+F+X keys separately.
A "Save File" requestor appears.
(b) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command prompt.
(TAB navigates the buttons of the requestor.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"glee" wrote in message
...
| I assume you are seeing the actual system.ini file when you open it
with EDIT, and
| are changing the shell= line from shell=explorer.exe, to winfile.exe
or progman.exe?
| When you have made those changes, save them by pressing ALT, then F,
then S.
| Exit EDIT by pressing ALT, then F, then X
|
| The instructions you posted on how to save the file, are confusing,
and you may be
| not saving the changes.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
....snip

OK. That would do it. The floppy prevented a Windows boot. Well...

(1) This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31

(2) Or, I guess, try...

Boot to DOS (hold Ctrl as you boot for the Startup Menu, & select
"Command Prompt Only"), and Enter

SCANREG /Restore

It will offer five, one for each of the last five separate days you
booted successfully. Start with the one of the day the problem began, as
these backups of the entire Registry (& System.ini & Win.ini) are done
at boot, not at shut down.

CAVEAT: A /Restore restores settings only. If there was a file change
(other than to System.ini & Win.ini), those cannot be undone this way.
That could be a problem, especially if there was a hardware change or
large un/in-stall since the backup was made. Also, a large settings
change, such as adding/removing a User Profile, is likely best undone a
different way. Finally, some apps may keep a small database in the
Registry. I do believe Explorer itself may keep it's list of blocked
sites there.

| Unfortunately on that one, under the install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Add/Remove Programs"; Windows 98; Title Only; Exact Phrase;
produces many, including these...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...48&Product=w98
All Installed Programs May Not Be Displayed in the Add/Remove Programs
Tool
(240348) - You may notice that all of the programs that are installed on
your computer may not be displayed in the Add/Remove Programs tool.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...97&Product=w98
Error Message When Removing Program with Add/Remove Programs
(141697) - When you view the list of installed programs in the
Add/Remove Programs tool, you may see one or more programs listed that
have already been uninstalled from your computer. Or, when you remove a
program using the Add/Remove Programs tool in Control...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...04&Product=w98
Program Missing from Add/Remove Programs Tool
(214704) - A program that was listed on the Windows Setup tab in the
Add/Remove Programs tool in Control Panel may no longer be listed.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| UPDATE;
| PCR, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong, though my
problem
| still isn't solved. Remember when i said I had zero computer
knowledge? Well,
| after changing the shell, I was using my emergency start-up disk on
the
| restart. When I stopped doing that, I was whisked into the Windows
File
| Manager.
| Unfortuantely, after following the steps you laid out, I found that
| nothing was available to me under setup.exe (step 12). So I moved to
your
| next suggestion, where you go into the program manager, type in
"control
| appwiz.cpl, go navigate to the install/uninstall tab, and then try to
repair
| Internet Explorer. Unfortunately on that one, under the
install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?
| If that doesn't work, the only other solution I've seen is this
one. It
| seems to easy work, and I'm afraid to try it without someone advising
me that
| it's safe. That solution simply said at the command prompt, type
scanreg /
| restore to restore the latest registry backup. Is that a possible
solution?
| If so, are there spaces between scanreg and restore?
| Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer.
|
|
|
| "glee" wrote:
|
| - Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
| - Press ALT, then F, then S
| - Press ALT, then F, then X
|
| The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| Hey PCR,
| I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In
fact, I
| thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
| I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't
even find out
| if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager
(whatever that
| is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so
I'm convinced
| I'm following them properly. So why when I change
shell=Explorer.exe to
| shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I
could just get
| past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give
the rest
| of the directions a shot.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it
you
| haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have
very
| nearly your precise error message...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
| Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
| (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and
install
| Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
| Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at
0157F:
| 00401F31
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| | I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a
possible
| | solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my
computer to carry
| out the
| | solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer
me help,
| please
| | assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even
with this
| | potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old
trying to follow a
| recipe.
| |
| | Here’s the problem, here’s the potential
solution I’ve found,
| and here’s the
| | problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
| |
| | THE PROBLEM
| |
| | Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to
the
| opening
| | backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has
performed an
| illegal
| | operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer
caused an
| | invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I
have no
| choice
| | but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just
wallpaper
| and a
| | useless mouse.
| | The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program
– something
| I’ve read
| | has happened to other people as well.
| |
| | THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Here’s something I found that someone suggested to
someone else
| for this
| | very problem:
| |
| | (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
| |
| | (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the
computer. Hold
| CTRL
| | as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key
in
| one-second
| | intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the
Microsoft
| Windows
| | Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows
starts
| up
| | normally, repeat this step.
| |
| | (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
| |
| | (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text
under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the
"Explorer.exe"
| text
| | and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
| following:
| | Shell=Winfile.exe
| |
| | (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen.
Press the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts
into the
| Windows
| | File Manager (Winfile.exe).
| |
| | (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the
left
| hand
| | window to open the Program Files folder.
| |
| | (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open
the
| | Internet Explorer folder.
| |
| | (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the
Setup
| | folder.
| |
| | (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in
the right
| hand
| | window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
| |
| | NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer
has not
| | been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer
cannot be
| | restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut
down, &
| post
| | back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is
an
| | over-install of IE.
| |
| | (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup
window, click
| OK.
| |
| | (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
| previous
| | version of Internet Explorer.
| |
| | (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
| |
| | (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart
Windows
| dialog
| | box, click Restart Windows.
| |
| | When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup
Menu, or
| begin
| | pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete
this
| | step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is
displayed. If
| no
| | menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this
step.
| |
| | (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
| |
| | (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of
text under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the
"Winfile.exe"
| | text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should
list the
| | following: Shell=Explorer.exe
| |
| | (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. P
ress the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
| |
| | (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| | accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| | finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| | older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| | should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| | Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| | Explorer again.
| |
| |
| | MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get
past step #8. I
| | successfully get to the point where I change
shell=explorer.exe to
| | shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix,
shell=progman.exe).
| But then
| | when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file
manager
| coming
| | up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same
way it
| did
| | before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but
shake my
| head
| | and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
| |
| | Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try
this
| fix? If
| | not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk
that
| came with
| | the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and
have been
| told
| | that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I
had loaded
| onto my
| | computer.
| |
| | Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be
greatly
| | appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and
I fear
| I’ll
| | never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently
downloaded
| into
| | the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in
advance for
| any
| | assistance.
| |
|
|
|
|
|

I tried glee's directions that had me going to progman, then to
file-run-browse and finding internet explorer. I can't seem to find it. When
I type in c:\program files\internet explorer in the run window, it says
something like "there's no application associated with this. go to windows
file manager to create..." Or, if I click on browse, it gives me a menu that
I simply don't understand.
So after I failed on that front (a recurring theme), I went back to the
A:\ and tried typing in scanreg /restore. All I get is "bad command or file
name" and am back at the command prompt.



"PCR" wrote:

OK. That would do it. The floppy prevented a Windows boot. Well...

(1) This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31

(2) Or, I guess, try...

Boot to DOS (hold Ctrl as you boot for the Startup Menu, & select
"Command Prompt Only"), and Enter

SCANREG /Restore

It will offer five, one for each of the last five separate days you
booted successfully. Start with the one of the day the problem began, as
these backups of the entire Registry (& System.ini & Win.ini) are done
at boot, not at shut down.

CAVEAT: A /Restore restores settings only. If there was a file change
(other than to System.ini & Win.ini), those cannot be undone this way.
That could be a problem, especially if there was a hardware change or
large un/in-stall since the backup was made. Also, a large settings
change, such as adding/removing a User Profile, is likely best undone a
different way. Finally, some apps may keep a small database in the
Registry. I do believe Explorer itself may keep it's list of blocked
sites there.

| Unfortunately on that one, under the install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Add/Remove Programs"; Windows 98; Title Only; Exact Phrase;
produces many, including these...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...48&Product=w98
All Installed Programs May Not Be Displayed in the Add/Remove Programs
Tool
(240348) - You may notice that all of the programs that are installed on
your computer may not be displayed in the Add/Remove Programs tool.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...97&Product=w98
Error Message When Removing Program with Add/Remove Programs
(141697) - When you view the list of installed programs in the
Add/Remove Programs tool, you may see one or more programs listed that
have already been uninstalled from your computer. Or, when you remove a
program using the Add/Remove Programs tool in Control...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...04&Product=w98
Program Missing from Add/Remove Programs Tool
(214704) - A program that was listed on the Windows Setup tab in the
Add/Remove Programs tool in Control Panel may no longer be listed.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| UPDATE;
| PCR, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong, though my
problem
| still isn't solved. Remember when i said I had zero computer
knowledge? Well,
| after changing the shell, I was using my emergency start-up disk on
the
| restart. When I stopped doing that, I was whisked into the Windows
File
| Manager.
| Unfortuantely, after following the steps you laid out, I found that
| nothing was available to me under setup.exe (step 12). So I moved to
your
| next suggestion, where you go into the program manager, type in
"control
| appwiz.cpl, go navigate to the install/uninstall tab, and then try to
repair
| Internet Explorer. Unfortunately on that one, under the
install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?
| If that doesn't work, the only other solution I've seen is this
one. It
| seems to easy work, and I'm afraid to try it without someone advising
me that
| it's safe. That solution simply said at the command prompt, type
scanreg /
| restore to restore the latest registry backup. Is that a possible
solution?
| If so, are there spaces between scanreg and restore?
| Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer.
|
|
|
| "glee" wrote:
|
| - Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
| - Press ALT, then F, then S
| - Press ALT, then F, then X
|
| The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| Hey PCR,
| I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In
fact, I
| thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
| I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't
even find out
| if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager
(whatever that
| is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so
I'm convinced
| I'm following them properly. So why when I change
shell=Explorer.exe to
| shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I
could just get
| past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give
the rest
| of the directions a shot.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it
you
| haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have
very
| nearly your precise error message...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
| Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
| (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and
install
| Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
| Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at
0157F:
| 00401F31
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| | I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a
possible
| | solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my
computer to carry
| out the
| | solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer
me help,
| please
| | assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even
with this
| | potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old
trying to follow a
| recipe.
| |
| | Here’s the problem, here’s the potential
solution I’ve found,
| and here’s the
| | problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
| |
| | THE PROBLEM
| |
| | Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to
the
| opening
| | backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has
performed an
| illegal
| | operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer
caused an
| | invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I
have no
| choice
| | but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just
wallpaper
| and a
| | useless mouse.
| | The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program
– something
| I’ve read
| | has happened to other people as well.
| |
| | THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Here’s something I found that someone suggested to
someone else
| for this
| | very problem:
| |
| | (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
| |
| | (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the
computer. Hold
| CTRL
| | as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key
in
| one-second
| | intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the
Microsoft
| Windows
| | Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows
starts
| up
| | normally, repeat this step.
| |
| | (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
| |
| | (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text
under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the
"Explorer.exe"
| text
| | and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
| following:
| | Shell=Winfile.exe
| |
| | (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen.
Press the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts
into the
| Windows
| | File Manager (Winfile.exe).
| |
| | (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the
left
| hand
| | window to open the Program Files folder.
| |
| | (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open
the
| | Internet Explorer folder.
| |
| | (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the
Setup
| | folder.
| |
| | (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in
the right
| hand
| | window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
| |
| | NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer
has not
| | been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer
cannot be
| | restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut
down, &
| post
| | back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is
an
| | over-install of IE.
| |
| | (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup
window, click
| OK.
| |
| | (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
| previous
| | version of Internet Explorer.
| |
| | (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
| |
| | (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart
Windows
| dialog
| | box, click Restart Windows.
| |
| | When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup
Menu, or
| begin
| | pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete
this
| | step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is
displayed. If
| no
| | menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this
step.
| |
| | (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
| |
| | (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of
text under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the
"Winfile.exe"
| | text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should
list the
| | following: Shell=Explorer.exe
| |
| | (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. P
ress the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
| |
| | (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| | accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| | finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| | older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| | should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| | Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| | Explorer again.
| |
| |
| | MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get
past step #8. I
| | successfully get to the point where I change
shell=explorer.exe to
| | shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix,
shell=progman.exe).
| But then
| | when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file
manager
| coming
| | up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same
way it
| did
| | before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but
shake my
| head
| | and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
| |
| | Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try
this
| fix? If
| | not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk
that
| came with
| | the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and
have been
| told
| | that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I
had loaded
| onto my
| | computer.
| |
| | Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be
greatly
| | appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and
I fear
| I’ll
| | never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently
downloaded
| into
| | the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in
advance for
| any
| | assistance.
| |
|
|
|
|
|

At the A: prompt, type the following, pressing Enter at the end of each line:

C:
CD Windows\Command
scanreg /restore
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rbryan" wrote in message
...
I tried glee's directions that had me going to progman, then to
file-run-browse and finding internet explorer. I can't seem to find it. When
I type in c:\program files\internet explorer in the run window, it says
something like "there's no application associated with this. go to windows
file manager to create..." Or, if I click on browse, it gives me a menu that
I simply don't understand.
So after I failed on that front (a recurring theme), I went back to the
A:\ and tried typing in scanreg /restore. All I get is "bad command or file
name" and am back at the command prompt.



"PCR" wrote:

OK. That would do it. The floppy prevented a Windows boot. Well...

(1) This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31

(2) Or, I guess, try...

Boot to DOS (hold Ctrl as you boot for the Startup Menu, & select
"Command Prompt Only"), and Enter

SCANREG /Restore

It will offer five, one for each of the last five separate days you
booted successfully. Start with the one of the day the problem began, as
these backups of the entire Registry (& System.ini & Win.ini) are done
at boot, not at shut down.

CAVEAT: A /Restore restores settings only. If there was a file change
(other than to System.ini & Win.ini), those cannot be undone this way.
That could be a problem, especially if there was a hardware change or
large un/in-stall since the backup was made. Also, a large settings
change, such as adding/removing a User Profile, is likely best undone a
different way. Finally, some apps may keep a small database in the
Registry. I do believe Explorer itself may keep it's list of blocked
sites there.

| Unfortunately on that one, under the install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Add/Remove Programs"; Windows 98; Title Only; Exact Phrase;
produces many, including these...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...48&Product=w98
All Installed Programs May Not Be Displayed in the Add/Remove Programs
Tool
(240348) - You may notice that all of the programs that are installed on
your computer may not be displayed in the Add/Remove Programs tool.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...97&Product=w98
Error Message When Removing Program with Add/Remove Programs
(141697) - When you view the list of installed programs in the
Add/Remove Programs tool, you may see one or more programs listed that
have already been uninstalled from your computer. Or, when you remove a
program using the Add/Remove Programs tool in Control...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...04&Product=w98
Program Missing from Add/Remove Programs Tool
(214704) - A program that was listed on the Windows Setup tab in the
Add/Remove Programs tool in Control Panel may no longer be listed.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| UPDATE;
| PCR, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong, though my
problem
| still isn't solved. Remember when i said I had zero computer
knowledge? Well,
| after changing the shell, I was using my emergency start-up disk on
the
| restart. When I stopped doing that, I was whisked into the Windows
File
| Manager.
| Unfortuantely, after following the steps you laid out, I found that
| nothing was available to me under setup.exe (step 12). So I moved to
your
| next suggestion, where you go into the program manager, type in
"control
| appwiz.cpl, go navigate to the install/uninstall tab, and then try to
repair
| Internet Explorer. Unfortunately on that one, under the
install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?
| If that doesn't work, the only other solution I've seen is this
one. It
| seems to easy work, and I'm afraid to try it without someone advising
me that
| it's safe. That solution simply said at the command prompt, type
scanreg /
| restore to restore the latest registry backup. Is that a possible
solution?
| If so, are there spaces between scanreg and restore?
| Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer.
|
|
|
| "glee" wrote:
|
| - Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
| - Press ALT, then F, then S
| - Press ALT, then F, then X
|
| The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| Hey PCR,
| I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In
fact, I
| thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
| I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't
even find out
| if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager
(whatever that
| is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so
I'm convinced
| I'm following them properly. So why when I change
shell=Explorer.exe to
| shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I
could just get
| past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give
the rest
| of the directions a shot.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it
you
| haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have
very
| nearly your precise error message...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
| Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
| (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and
install
| Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
| Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at
0157F:
| 00401F31
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| | I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a
possible
| | solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my
computer to carry
| out the
| | solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer
me help,
| please
| | assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even
with this
| | potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old
trying to follow a
| recipe.
| |
| | Here’s the problem, here’s the potential
solution I’ve found,
| and here’s the
| | problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
| |
| | THE PROBLEM
| |
| | Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to
the
| opening
| | backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has
performed an
| illegal
| | operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer
caused an
| | invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I
have no
| choice
| | but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just
wallpaper
| and a
| | useless mouse.
| | The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program
– something
| I’ve read
| | has happened to other people as well.
| |
| | THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Here’s something I found that someone suggested to
someone else
| for this
| | very problem:
| |
| | (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
| |
| | (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the
computer. Hold
| CTRL
| | as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key
in
| one-second
| | intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the
Microsoft
| Windows
| | Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows
starts
| up
| | normally, repeat this step.
| |
| | (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
| |
| | (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text
under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the
"Explorer.exe"
| text
| | and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
| following:
| | Shell=Winfile.exe
| |
| | (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen.
Press the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts
into the
| Windows
| | File Manager (Winfile.exe).
| |
| | (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the
left
| hand
| | window to open the Program Files folder.
| |
| | (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open
the
| | Internet Explorer folder.
| |
| | (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the
Setup
| | folder.
| |
| | (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in
the right
| hand
| | window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
| |
| | NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer
has not
| | been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer
cannot be
| | restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut
down, &
| post
| | back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is
an
| | over-install of IE.
| |
| | (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup
window, click
| OK.
| |
| | (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
| previous
| | version of Internet Explorer.
| |
| | (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
| |
| | (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart
Windows
| dialog
| | box, click Restart Windows.
| |
| | When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup
Menu, or
| begin
| | pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete
this
| | step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is
displayed. If
| no
| | menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this
step.
| |
| | (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
| |
| | (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of
text under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the
"Winfile.exe"
| | text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should
list the
| | following: Shell=Explorer.exe
| |
| | (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. P
ress the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
| |
| | (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| | accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| | finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| | older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| | should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| | Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| | Explorer again.
| |
| |
| | MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get
past step #8. I
| | successfully get to the point where I change
shell=explorer.exe to
| | shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix,
shell=progman.exe).
| But then
| | when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file
manager
| coming
| | up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same
way it
| did
| | before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but
shake my
| head
| | and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
| |
| | Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try
this
| fix? If
| | not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk
that
| came with
| | the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and
have been
| told
| | that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I
had loaded
| onto my
| | computer.
| |
| | Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be
greatly
| | appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and
I fear
| I’ll
| | never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently
downloaded
| into
| | the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in
advance for
| any
| | assistance.
| |
|
|
|
|
|

Thanks so much to all. I'm not going completely into celebration mode yet,
but the registry restore appears to have done the trick. I'll post back if
there are problems.
So, does this mean I can't/shouldn't run spybot anymore? As you may
recall, the problem -- as has apparently been the case for others -- came
after running spybot. Any thoughts/suggestions?
Thanks again for your patience with my computer-challenged self. I was
about to give up and pay someone big bucks to try to fix my computer.

"glee" wrote:

At the A: prompt, type the following, pressing Enter at the end of each line:

C:
CD Windows\Command
scanreg /restore
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"rbryan" wrote in message
...
I tried glee's directions that had me going to progman, then to
file-run-browse and finding internet explorer. I can't seem to find it. When
I type in c:\program files\internet explorer in the run window, it says
something like "there's no application associated with this. go to windows
file manager to create..." Or, if I click on browse, it gives me a menu that
I simply don't understand.
So after I failed on that front (a recurring theme), I went back to the
A:\ and tried typing in scanreg /restore. All I get is "bad command or file
name" and am back at the command prompt.



"PCR" wrote:

OK. That would do it. The floppy prevented a Windows boot. Well...

(1) This appears to recover IE/Explorer piecemeal...
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
(296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and install
Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at 0157F:
00401F31

(2) Or, I guess, try...

Boot to DOS (hold Ctrl as you boot for the Startup Menu, & select
"Command Prompt Only"), and Enter

SCANREG /Restore

It will offer five, one for each of the last five separate days you
booted successfully. Start with the one of the day the problem began, as
these backups of the entire Registry (& System.ini & Win.ini) are done
at boot, not at shut down.

CAVEAT: A /Restore restores settings only. If there was a file change
(other than to System.ini & Win.ini), those cannot be undone this way.
That could be a problem, especially if there was a hardware change or
large un/in-stall since the backup was made. Also, a large settings
change, such as adding/removing a User Profile, is likely best undone a
different way. Finally, some apps may keep a small database in the
Registry. I do believe Explorer itself may keep it's list of blocked
sites there.

| Unfortunately on that one, under the install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...SD=GN&LN=EN-US MSKB
Search "Add/Remove Programs"; Windows 98; Title Only; Exact Phrase;
produces many, including these...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...48&Product=w98
All Installed Programs May Not Be Displayed in the Add/Remove Programs
Tool
(240348) - You may notice that all of the programs that are installed on
your computer may not be displayed in the Add/Remove Programs tool.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...97&Product=w98
Error Message When Removing Program with Add/Remove Programs
(141697) - When you view the list of installed programs in the
Add/Remove Programs tool, you may see one or more programs listed that
have already been uninstalled from your computer. Or, when you remove a
program using the Add/Remove Programs tool in Control...

http://support.microsoft.com/default...04&Product=w98
Program Missing from Add/Remove Programs Tool
(214704) - A program that was listed on the Windows Setup tab in the
Add/Remove Programs tool in Control Panel may no longer be listed.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"rbryan" wrote in message
...
| UPDATE;
| PCR, I finally figured out what I was doing wrong, though my
problem
| still isn't solved. Remember when i said I had zero computer
knowledge? Well,
| after changing the shell, I was using my emergency start-up disk on
the
| restart. When I stopped doing that, I was whisked into the Windows
File
| Manager.
| Unfortuantely, after following the steps you laid out, I found that
| nothing was available to me under setup.exe (step 12). So I moved to
your
| next suggestion, where you go into the program manager, type in
"control
| appwiz.cpl, go navigate to the install/uninstall tab, and then try to
repair
| Internet Explorer. Unfortunately on that one, under the
install/uninstall
| tab, my computer didn't have even a single program listed. Any ideas
there?
| If that doesn't work, the only other solution I've seen is this
one. It
| seems to easy work, and I'm afraid to try it without someone advising
me that
| it's safe. That solution simply said at the command prompt, type
scanreg /
| restore to restore the latest registry backup. Is that a possible
solution?
| If so, are there spaces between scanreg and restore?
| Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer.
|
|
|
| "glee" wrote:
|
| - Make the change in EDIT to the shell= line in system.ini
| - Press ALT, then F, then S
| - Press ALT, then F, then X
|
| The first one saves the changes, the second exits the EDIT app.
| --
| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
| http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
|
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| Hey PCR,
| I wasn't accusing you of offering questionable directions. In
fact, I
| thank you for them; they seem to speak exactly to my problem.
| I know you said they won't work for everything, but I can't
even find out
| if they'll work because I can't get the windows files manager
(whatever that
| is) to come up on restart. Your directions are very detailed so
I'm convinced
| I'm following them properly. So why when I change
shell=Explorer.exe to
| shell=Winfile.exe does nothing seem to change on restart? If I
could just get
| past that, as I've tried to a dozen times now, I can at least give
the rest
| of the directions a shot.
|
|
| "PCR" wrote:
|
| Why have you left your earlier thread? There are responses in it
you
| haven't responded to yet. Here is something that seems to have
very
| nearly your precise error message...
|
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default...11&Product=w98
| Invalid Page Fault in Module Explorer.exe
| (296211) - After you upgrade your Juno software, or download and
install
| Juno Web, you receive an error message similar to the following:
| Explorer.exe caused an invalid page fault in explorer.exe at
0157F:
| 00401F31
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "rbryan" wrote in message
| ...
| | I have a crippling problem for which I seem to have found a
possible
| | solution, but the problem is that I can’t get my
computer to carry
| out the
| | solution. Let me preface this by saying that if you can offer
me help,
| please
| | assume nothing when it comes to my computer knowledge. Even
with this
| | potential fix I’ve found, I’m like a 5-year-old
trying to follow a
| recipe.
| |
| | Here’s the problem, here’s the potential
solution I’ve found,
| and here’s the
| | problem I’m having carrying out the solution:
| |
| | THE PROBLEM
| |
| | Whenever i try to start my win98se the windows makes it to
the
| opening
| | backdrop with the message "explorer, this program has
performed an
| illegal
| | operation and will be shut down". the details say " explorer
caused an
| | invalid page fault in module explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. I
have no
| choice
| | but to close it and then have nothing at my disposal -- just
wallpaper
| and a
| | useless mouse.
| | The problem occurred after I ran the spybot program
– something
| I’ve read
| | has happened to other people as well.
| |
| | THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Here’s something I found that someone suggested to
someone else
| for this
| | very problem:
| |
| | (1) Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE, & click Shut Down.
| |
| | (2) After the computer has been shut down, turn on the
computer. Hold
| CTRL
| | as you boot for the Startup Menu, or begin pressing the F8 key
in
| one-second
| | intervals. If you complete this step successfully, the
Microsoft
| Windows
| | Startup Menu is displayed. If no menu is displayed and Windows
starts
| up
| | normally, repeat this step.
| |
| | (3) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | "Command Prompt Only", and then press the ENTER key.
| |
| | (4) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (3) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of text
under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Explorer.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (4) Edit the "Shell=Explorer.exe" line by deleting the
"Explorer.exe"
| text
| | and replacing it with "Winfile.exe". The line should list the
| following:
| | Shell=Winfile.exe
| |
| | (5) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (6) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen.
Press the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (7) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (8) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys. Once Windows has restarted, it starts
into the
| Windows
| | File Manager (Winfile.exe).
| |
| | (9) In the File Manager window, double-click "progra~1" in the
left
| hand
| | window to open the Program Files folder.
| |
| | (10) Double-click "intern~1" in the left hand window to open
the
| | Internet Explorer folder.
| |
| | (11) Double-click "setup" in the left hand window to open the
Setup
| | folder.
| |
| | (12) In the File Manager window, double-click "Setup.exe" in
the right
| hand
| | window to launch Internet Explorer setup.
| |
| | NOTE: If the setup folder is not available, Internet Explorer
has not
| | been updated and a previous version of Internet Explorer
cannot be
| | restored. You cannot use this method. Close "Winfile", shut
down, &
| post
| | back, or try the URL at the very bottom of this post, which is
an
| | over-install of IE.
| |
| | (13) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools Setup
window, click
| OK.
| |
| | (14) In the Setup Message dialog box, click Yes to restore the
| previous
| | version of Internet Explorer.
| |
| | (15) Internet Explorer setup removes components.
| |
| | (16) In the Internet Explorer 6 and Internet Tools - Restart
Windows
| dialog
| | box, click Restart Windows.
| |
| | When the computer is restarting, hold CTRL for the Startup
Menu, or
| begin
| | pressing the F8 key in one-second intervals. If you complete
this
| | step successfully, the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu is
displayed. If
| no
| | menu is displayed and Windows starts up normally, repeat this
step.
| |
| | (17) At the Microsoft Windows Startup Menu, use the ARROW keys
to
| select
| | Command prompt only, and then press ENTER.
| |
| | (18) At the command prompt, type: EDIT C:\Windows\System.ini
| | Press ENTER.
| |
| | (19) In the C:\Windows\SYSTEM.INI file, locate the line of
text under
| the
| | [boot] section that lists "Shell=Winfile.exe". This is
typically the
| third
| | line in the file.
| |
| | (20) Edit the "Shell=Winfile.exe" line by deleting the
"Winfile.exe"
| | text and replacing it with "Explorer.exe". The line should
list the
| | following: Shell=Explorer.exe
| |
| | (21) To save the changes, press the ALT+F keys.
| |
| | (22) A menu displays in the upper left corner of the screen. P
ress the
| X key
| | to exit.
| |
| | (23) Press ENTER to save the changes and return to the command
prompt.
| (TAB
| | would move you to the next button.)
| |
| | (24) At the command prompt, restart the computer by pressing
the
| | CTRL+ALT+DELETE keys
| |
| | (25) Windows starts to a blue screen, but will still be
| | accessing the hard drive for a period of time. When
| | finished, Windows is on the desktop with icons, but an
| | older version of Internet Explorer is installed. You
| | should update your antivirus software, and then perform
| | Windows Update to install a new version of Internet
| | Explorer again.
| |
| |
| | MY PROBLEM WITH THE SOLUTION
| |
| | Try as I might to follow the formula, I can’t get
past step #8. I
| | successfully get to the point where I change
shell=explorer.exe to
| | shell=winfile.exe (or in another potential fix,
shell=progman.exe).
| But then
| | when I shut down the computer, the promise of the windows file
manager
| coming
| | up never materializes. Instead, the computer starts the same
way it
| did
| | before I made the changes, leaving me with nothing to do but
shake my
| head
| | and threaten to throw my computer out the nearest window.
| |
| | Can anyone help get me past this step so I can at least try
this
| fix? If
| | not, can anyone suggest another fix? I have the recovery disk
that
| came with
| | the computer but have no knowledge about how to use it and
have been
| told
| | that even if I did use it, I’d lose al the programs I
had loaded
| onto my
| | computer.
| |
| | Any help, as specific and dumbed-down as possible, would be
greatly
| | appreciated. My computer has been useless for a week now, and
I fear
| I’ll
| | never again see the pictures of my newborn that I recently
downloaded
| into
| | the digital camera software on my computer. Thank you in
advance for
| any
| | assistance.
| |
|
|
|
|
|