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Old November 3rd 04, 03:57 PM
ATK
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Any way a SATA disk can be connected to an IDE header please?


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Old November 3rd 04, 07:56 PM
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You can use a Promise Technology PCI adapter, such as the SATA II 150 TX2
plus which gives you 2 SATA ports and two parallel 133 ports, as well as
supplying 48-bit LBA addressing, if your BIOS doesn't have it, or other such
cards. Price is about $60. You probably won't see all that much of a
bandwidth improvement over parallel 133, though, since SATA I isn't a huge
step in speed over UDMA133, i.e, 150MBps isn't much more than 133MBps.
http://www.promise.com/
There are connectors to connect a parallel HD to a serial port, but I don't
know of anything the other way round.

Hope this is of some use,

Joe
"ATK" wrote in message
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Any way a SATA disk can be connected to an IDE header please?




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Old November 4th 04, 11:13 AM
Lil' Dave
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Just wondering how 133 or 150 MBs data rate can be accomplished through a
33MHz PCI bus...
"jt3" wrote in message
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You can use a Promise Technology PCI adapter, such as the SATA II 150 TX2
plus which gives you 2 SATA ports and two parallel 133 ports, as well as
supplying 48-bit LBA addressing, if your BIOS doesn't have it, or other

such
cards. Price is about $60. You probably won't see all that much of a
bandwidth improvement over parallel 133, though, since SATA I isn't a huge
step in speed over UDMA133, i.e, 150MBps isn't much more than 133MBps.
http://www.promise.com/
There are connectors to connect a parallel HD to a serial port, but I

don't
know of anything the other way round.

Hope this is of some use,

Joe
"ATK" wrote in message
...
Any way a SATA disk can be connected to an IDE header please?






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Old November 4th 04, 11:57 AM
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Google it, man!

Though short on explanation here's the math:

http://english.aopen.com.tw/tech/techinside/ata133.htm

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"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
Just wondering how 133 or 150 MBs data rate can be accomplished through a
33MHz PCI bus...
"jt3" wrote in message
...
You can use a Promise Technology PCI adapter, such as the SATA II 150 TX2
plus which gives you 2 SATA ports and two parallel 133 ports, as well as
supplying 48-bit LBA addressing, if your BIOS doesn't have it, or other

such
cards. Price is about $60. You probably won't see all that much of a
bandwidth improvement over parallel 133, though, since SATA I isn't a
huge
step in speed over UDMA133, i.e, 150MBps isn't much more than 133MBps.
http://www.promise.com/
There are connectors to connect a parallel HD to a serial port, but I

don't
know of anything the other way round.

Hope this is of some use,

Joe
"ATK" wrote in message
...
Any way a SATA disk can be connected to an IDE header please?








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Old November 4th 04, 10:27 PM
jt3
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33X4B/cycle~133MBs, as always, an upper limit figure.
I expect you're right about the 150; if it's ver. 2.2, it would offer
66MHz operation, but not on the secondary, or card, bus. My chipset is
presumably 2.2 and has SATA onboard, but that's clearly the primary PCI bus.
If it happens to be PC-X 1.0, which dates from late 1999, but probably not
on any machines seen before 2001, then it could handle the 150MBs card since
it shares bus width between 32- and 64-bit devices.
My impression is that this might be more detail than ATK wanted, though.
Hope this satisfactorily amends my previous remarks.

Joe
"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
Just wondering how 133 or 150 MBs data rate can be accomplished through a
33MHz PCI bus...
"jt3" wrote in message
...
You can use a Promise Technology PCI adapter, such as the SATA II 150

TX2
plus which gives you 2 SATA ports and two parallel 133 ports, as well as
supplying 48-bit LBA addressing, if your BIOS doesn't have it, or other

such
cards. Price is about $60. You probably won't see all that much of a
bandwidth improvement over parallel 133, though, since SATA I isn't a

huge
step in speed over UDMA133, i.e, 150MBps isn't much more than 133MBps.
http://www.promise.com/
There are connectors to connect a parallel HD to a serial port, but I

don't
know of anything the other way round.

Hope this is of some use,

Joe
"ATK" wrote in message
...
Any way a SATA disk can be connected to an IDE header please?








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Old November 5th 04, 10:39 AM
ATK
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Many thanks for interest shown - I suspect cost is not worth it.

jt3 wrote:
33X4B/cycle~133MBs, as always, an upper limit figure.
I expect you're right about the 150; if it's ver. 2.2, it would
offer 66MHz operation, but not on the secondary, or card, bus. My
chipset is presumably 2.2 and has SATA onboard, but that's clearly
the primary PCI bus. If it happens to be PC-X 1.0, which dates from
late 1999, but probably not on any machines seen before 2001, then it
could handle the 150MBs card since it shares bus width between 32-
and 64-bit devices. My impression is that this might be more
detail than ATK wanted, though. Hope this satisfactorily amends
my previous remarks.

Joe
"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
Just wondering how 133 or 150 MBs data rate can be accomplished
through a 33MHz PCI bus...
"jt3" wrote in message
...
You can use a Promise Technology PCI adapter, such as the SATA II
150 TX2 plus which gives you 2 SATA ports and two parallel 133
ports, as well as supplying 48-bit LBA addressing, if your BIOS
doesn't have it, or other such cards. Price is about $60. You
probably won't see all that much of a bandwidth improvement over
parallel 133, though, since SATA I isn't a huge step in speed over
UDMA133, i.e, 150MBps isn't much more than 133MBps.
http://www.promise.com/
There are connectors to connect a parallel HD to a serial port, but
I don't know of anything the other way round.

Hope this is of some use,

Joe
"ATK" wrote in message
...
Any way a SATA disk can be connected to an IDE header please?



 




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