defrag...time

boni wrote:
article 271823 requires Win98 startup disk (not avail)

wrong URL...

to make a WinME EBD (Emergency Boot Disk) go to

ControlPanel/AddRemovePrograms/StartupDisk

and follow the directions.

so, bootdisk i will try.
CDO stands for ?

I'm trying to think of a suitable acronym translation without resorting
to vulgarity, but it's the web-browser interface to these groups... it
sucks, OE6 doesn't, as much.


Rick


Liberty bike was cool... love the colour... Gillette bike was pretty
awesome (but almost undriveable)... I think I like the Lincoln bike bestest.


accts/ will work on that. late & heading out. thanks boni

That was some bike Rick haven't seen the Lincoln g I watched the Santa
Claus one last night, I'm surprised it went what with senior and Mike on
it g but the kids appreciated it.
I usually watch it at 6pm here on Discovery so haven't seen any of the new
series yet.
Joan


Rick T wrote:

Liberty bike was cool... love the colour... Gillette bike was pretty
awesome (but almost undriveable)... I think I like the Lincoln bike
bestest.

ControlPanel/AddRemovePrograms/StartupDisk

Quite right Rick, I started to type that in my reply then deleted it as I
saw the 271823 article - and I should have read it before posting!! Too
fast with the trigger-finger g

Glad also, that you tried to explain CDO BG

Mart



"Rick T" wrote in message
...
boni wrote:
article 271823 requires Win98 startup disk (not avail)

wrong URL...

to make a WinME EBD (Emergency Boot Disk) go to

ControlPanel/AddRemovePrograms/StartupDisk

and follow the directions.

so, bootdisk i will try.
CDO stands for ?

I'm trying to think of a suitable acronym translation without resorting to
vulgarity, but it's the web-browser interface to these groups... it sucks,
OE6 doesn't, as much.


Rick


Liberty bike was cool... love the colour... Gillette bike was pretty
awesome (but almost undriveable)... I think I like the Lincoln bike
bestest.


accts/ will work on that. late & heading out. thanks boni

LOL!! Nah, you aren't in all that much trouble.

I wish I could say I was 100% sure, but without backup proof, I am only 99%
sure. (G)

Heather

"Mart" wrote in message
...
Hey Heather! HTML?? - I'm already in enough trouble elsewhere with
this
thread - please don't involve me in HTML g

Mart


"Heather" wrote in message
...
Good morning, puss!! And that is the crazy HTML coding that I was
talking
about to Mart. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think so. I have
seen
it many times before.......

 Windows Explorer)
 
 N.B. Defrag requires

Night....and I must remember what questions I was going to ask you but
the
brain is dead and I am heading to bed......8-))

Figgs


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
It's not a newsreader, Rick - it's a Webforum interface

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Rick T" wrote in message
...
WinME's default Defrag works just fine. So does (3rd party) Diskeeper
for
that matter, though not that much better.

ScanDefrag is not a defragmenter; it's a program that manages running
of
Windows' DiskCleanUp, Scandisk and Defrag programs.


Your newsreader is doing strange things to your posts.


Rick

Joan Archer wrote:
That was some bike Rick haven't seen the Lincoln g I watched the Santa
Claus one last night, I'm surprised it went what with senior and Mike on
it g but the kids appreciated it.

Haven't seen (or heard about) the Santa Claus one, yet; from my POV in
the series they just finished the Gillette bike.

Rick

I usually watch it at 6pm here on Discovery so haven't seen any of the new
series yet.
Joan


Rick T wrote:

Liberty bike was cool... love the colour... Gillette bike was pretty
awesome (but almost undriveable)... I think I like the Lincoln bike
bestest.

Haven't heard of that one. If I remember it was the Liberty then the
lawnmower then the Santa Claus, but when I watch it it could just be that
they are not in sequence. Tonight's version was the Black Widow again
which
I saw some weeks ago, I think when they did an American Chopper day one
Sunday g
Just remembered that they mentioned the Santa Claus was something to do
with the kids who had lost people in 9/11 and they went to a Fire Station
I think g
Joan



Rick T wrote:

Haven't seen (or heard about) the Santa Claus one, yet; from my POV in
the series they just finished the Gillette bike.

Rick

had a chance to begin on normal mode (5hrs) scandisk. will finish later
safe mode zzz.boni.
"Mart" wrote in message
...
boni wrote :-

i don't understand ....

DMA setting - Check your HDD settings in Device Manager to determine
whether
DMA is set on or off. Try the alternative setting and see if there is an
improvement. N.B. - Set an SR Point first - just in case!!

You also now need to determine whether it is Scandisk or Defrag which is
causing the bottle-neck.

if defrag is badly fragmented each time before i run it , how will i be
able to tell ?

Watch the 'defrag' map. When you watch the 'defrag' map - are there masses
of fragments, or is the map fairly contiguous?

Try defragging (and time it) then - without switching off - immediately
try
defragging again - Any *major* difference in time? How does the second
timing compare with your 'weekly' timing of defrag?

Scandisk :-

Try running Scandisk ONLY in each of the following modes and make a note
of
the timings :-

Normal Mode - as a 'Thorough' test.
Safe Mode - as a 'Thorough' test
Real Mode DOS - Surface Scan (Equivalent to a Thorough test in Windows)

N.B. - To run Scandisk in Real Mode DOS, Boot with your WinMe Startup
(floppy) Disk, select 'With CD-ROM
Support' then at the A:\ prompt, type "scandisk c:" (no quotes and note
there is a colon after the letter c)
then press Return. Follow the screen prompts and allow a Surface Scan.

How do the three Scandisk timings compare?

N.B. - By running Scandisk in Real Mode DOS, you are completely
eliminating
ANY WinMe involvement!!

A very long-winded and time consuming exercise - but should help identify
where the problem lies.

Mart


"boni" wrote in message
...
thanks ... i will try diskeeper and blueorbsoft
i don't understand , ensure that disk is set for DMA access?
if defrag is badly fragmented each time before i run it , how will i be
able to tell ?
when i try to defrag on regular mode it runs, just about the same.
if i were to use the ctrl + alt + delete and shutting off all the
processes
rundll32 does not appear . should it?
boni.

"boni" wrote in message
...
local disk (c
capacity 18.6 gb
used 10.0 gb
free 8.86 gb 914kb "Mart" wrote in
message ...
Perhaps both the Total Size and the amount of Free Space of your disk
would
be a useful starting point. (Can be ascertained in My Computer and/or
Windows Explorer)

N.B. Defrag requires some 15% Free Space to run, hence the more Free
Space -
the faster it will run.

See also :-
"Description of the Disk Defragmenter Tool in Windows 98/Me"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;186171

Mart



"boni" wrote in message
...
where would i begin to respond to the question ...size of disk and
contents
? thanks
"boni" wrote in message
...
one week later......
did the same again. this time defrag took about 8hrs. on safe mode
to
complete.
honestly, in respond to your question .. drive used for other
things
??
or
burning to cd ?? or media files to slave drive, maybe all the
suggestions
made by you have the solution. except ..i wouldn't know where to
begin
and
resolve the problem. so that when i defrag on safe mode it
wouldn't
take
so
long. since i am doing it weekly. no i don't have adware nor
spyware
.
i
have ez av/firewall/ spybot. simple/uncomplicated directions
..appreciated.
thank you. boni.
"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
boni had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

i do a scan disk & defrag in safe mode 1x a week, and it
takes
more
than 6hrs. and yes i did the delete/temp/history first before
going
into safe mode. is there a reason why it takes so long ? any
suggestions ?
thanks. boni.

Perhaps you have a bunch of stuff on your drive? Your drive is
also
being
used for other things? Have you tried defragging in safe mode?
Does
it
often
restart because it says contents changed or the like? Is your
drive
rather
full of stuff? If so then do you have the option of burning it
to
CD
or
installing a slave drive and storing non-application files and
media
files
on the slaved drive?

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.

Boni asked :-
CDO stands for ?

Microsoft® Collaboration Data Objects (CDO) is a technology for building
messaging or collaboration applications.

"Overview of CDO"
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...iew_of_cdo.htm

"OL2000: General Information About CDO"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;272402

Well - You did ask!!

Mart


"boni" wrote in message
...
article 271823 requires Win98 startup disk (not avail)
so, bootdisk i will try.
CDO stands for ?
accts/ will work on that. late & heading out. thanks boni
"Mart" wrote in message
...
Boni, for the time being, don't worry too much about the DMA issue. You
can
concentrate on enabling/disabling the DMA - if necessary - after you've
tried the 3 Scandisk tests and compared their results.

Regarding a WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk, you can either create one
yourself
:-
"How To Create a Windows Me Startup Disk Manually"
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;271823

or go to http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm and download the WinMe OEM
option to your hard disk on you current computer. Run it from your hard
disk - with a fresh floppy disk in your A: drive - to create a WinMe
Startup
(floppy)

Finally, (for the moment g)
..... can't figure out why the email in OE is
showing verizon.net. when its optonline.

Well, at least your are using IE6 (and all credit to you for that!!) and
not
the dreaded CDO, however you ought to seriously think about 'munging'
your
email address in these newsgroups - spam harvesters tend to trawl. Look
how
others have set-up theirs.

Easily fixed in OE |Tools \ Accounts \ News tab \ Properties - and just
amend your e-mail address accordingly to a fictitious account.

Good luck

Mart


"boni" wrote in message
...
first let me again thank you all first for your support.
don't believe i have a WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk.
i do have in documents gmx9xao1 (5699 kb) and 9c904me (412 kb)
applications.
but, i will test on normal/safe mode.
in checking device manager .. the selected choice is Interrupt request
(IRQ). not the direct memory access(DMA).
the other 2 test on normal/safe thoroughmode will be done at an earlier
time.. for me. i will remember to do a SR first.
its zzz time and i look forward on trying to fix my system.
on another note.... if i may ? can't figure out why the email in OE is
showing verizon.net. when its optonline.

Settings and Hardware using the setting

snipped

And don't forget Real Mode DOS too!!

Mart


"boni" wrote in message
...
had a chance to begin on normal mode (5hrs) scandisk. will finish later
safe mode zzz.boni.
snipped

today i am attempting to complete safe mode thorough .message indicates
other programs running and causing scandisk interruption, how do i know or
discontinue programs from running during or in safe mode.? boni
interruption about 10 x