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Then call PSS. It will be a free call.
John Corliss wrote: Noel Paton wrote: John could you please download and run Everest Home Edition (www.lavalys.hu) and send me a full report? my email addy is valid. Hmm..... I use Aida, Everest's precursor. But a "full" report? That's giving you a whole lot of info, some of it stuff that I may not want anybody else to have. Heck, I don't even understand some of it and don't know whether or not I should provide it to others. And that's 84 pages of stuff to sift through in order to edit that info out... Sorry Noel, it's nice of you to offer to help and I mean no offense, but frankly I'd rather not do this. -- An open letter to the Security Community:: http://msmvps.com/bradley/archive/2004/12/12/23540.aspx |
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I have IE 6 SP1, and the problem is there (or rather, was there, until I
"fixed" it). I upgraded directly from IE 5.5 SP2, to IE 6 SP1. glee wrote: The info I am aware of is that IE6 caused the problem, and IE6 SP1 remedied it. Did you in fact actually upgrade to IE6 SP1 to see if there was an improvement? -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Bill in Co." wrote in message ... Upgrading to IE 6 SP1 (or IE 6 by itself) is what resulted in that file copy and delete problem in the first place, for Win98 users! That's what Frank's DLL swapping solution resolves. ( http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm ) I can bear testimony to that, cause that's where I'm at now. The only other alternative was to rollback to IE 5.5 SP2 - or just live with the problem, which I'm not willing to do. Rick T wrote: As I recall, that doesn't work. Rick T Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Why not upgrade to IE6 sp1? http://snipurl.com/4bgz Rick T wrote: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: And you keep right on doing exactly what you are doing. We'll keep an eye on it. Rolling back to IE 5.5 is not an acceptable resolution in my book. No arguments there, but it's the only one that works. Having Explorer hang and crash is also not an option. Rick T Rick Chauvin wrote: ...understood, but I just had to try. thanks Gary, Rick Gary S. Terhune wrote: FWIW, I seriously doubt that Jerry B. is going to read any replies to his post. It was a notice, nothing more. They've been able to repro the issue, which usually means that further user input is probably not needed. We just have to wait to see what they work out. However, I *did* drop your entire post into the same hopper I used for the KB891711 issue (the track that finally got some action, or at least some public acknowledgement of the problem.) We'll have to wait to see what, if anything, comes of it. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Rick Chauvin" wrote in message ... PA Bear wrote: X-Posting to Win95 and WinME NGs eliminated. Rick, I don't think MS05-002/KB891711 has anything to do with the issue about which you post. Hi Robert, You have totally misunderstood my post. I'm sorry you did. Of course we all knowMS05-002/KB891711 has nothing to do with the link I gave. http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm As I said I took this extra opportunity to tag onto Jerry Bryant MCSE, MCDBA post to express to the MS coders about another important issue that is of great importance for 9x to get fixed - besides what the OP is about. I apologize for tagging onto it, but felt it was important enough. (As you know, my position is that IE6 with SP1 installed has fixed your issue for the vast majority of Win98 users.) Again here too Robert I have no idea what you are referring to, but surely you are mistaken here of what we are talking about which has been well confirmed in this 9x newsgroup a hundred times over the last 2 years; thousands of times elsewhere. The issue that the link http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm speaks about was never fixed and I can guarantee it's 100% immutable that the problem does exist for W98x. I would of not stuck my neck out to make my post if it wasn't. I guess you don't know me. The problem is old news but for heavens sake Robert earlier just today even your own Extremely capable MVP Chris Quirke (cquirke) is onboard with this issue and actually uses 9x to know. Listen up: Rick |
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glee wrote:
Did you try it yourself, or are you going on what someone else told you? Have you installed IE6 SP1 yourself to see if it fixed the problem? I'm currently auditing Win2K, so I'm going by memory... Installing IE6 caused that problem as well as what felt like a task priorities problem (mouse would freeze for a few seconds occasionally) .... and since SP1 is over a year old (and I only installed 2K last month) I'm going to take it for granted that I tried it with SP1 with the same result. Rick T P3, VIA Apollo+, 512MB |
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Rick T wrote:
glee wrote: Did you try it yourself, or are you going on what someone else told you? Have you installed IE6 SP1 yourself to see if it fixed the problem? I'm currently auditing Win2K, so I'm going by memory... Installing IE6 caused that problem as well as what felt like a task priorities problem (mouse would freeze for a few seconds occasionally) ... and since SP1 is over a year old (and I only installed 2K last month) I'm going to take it for granted that I tried it with SP1 with the same result. And as I said, it does it for me too (with SP1). (until I swapped out those 2 DLLs, as already discussed in here) Rick T P3, VIA Apollo+, 512MB |
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Jerry,
This issue absolutely affects Windows 2000 also. "Jerry Bryant [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution. Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not aware of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866) PCSAFETY. When calling, please indicate that you are having issues with a security update. -- Regards, Jerry Bryant - MCSE, MCDBA Microsoft IT Communities Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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Sources that I'm reading is that sp1 fixed it?
Rick T wrote: glee wrote: Did you try it yourself, or are you going on what someone else told you? Have you installed IE6 SP1 yourself to see if it fixed the problem? I'm currently auditing Win2K, so I'm going by memory... Installing IE6 caused that problem as well as what felt like a task priorities problem (mouse would freeze for a few seconds occasionally) ... and since SP1 is over a year old (and I only installed 2K last month) I'm going to take it for granted that I tried it with SP1 with the same result. Rick T P3, VIA Apollo+, 512MB -- An open letter to the Security Community:: http://msmvps.com/bradley/archive/2004/12/12/23540.aspx |
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NOPE!!!! Ain't so!
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote: Sources that I'm reading is that sp1 fixed it? Rick T wrote: glee wrote: Did you try it yourself, or are you going on what someone else told you? Have you installed IE6 SP1 yourself to see if it fixed the problem? I'm currently auditing Win2K, so I'm going by memory... Installing IE6 caused that problem as well as what felt like a task priorities problem (mouse would freeze for a few seconds occasionally) ... and since SP1 is over a year old (and I only installed 2K last month) I'm going to take it for granted that I tried it with SP1 with the same result. Rick T P3, VIA Apollo+, 512MB -- An open letter to the Security Community:: http://msmvps.com/bradley/archive/2004/12/12/23540.aspx |
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Please call the number below and share your experience with MS Support.
I'm not sure they have sufficient data on this issue as it affects Win2K systems. (Wait until Monday, OK?) 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338) -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Earl" wrote in message ... Jerry, This issue absolutely affects Windows 2000 also. "Jerry Bryant [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution. Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not aware of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866) PCSAFETY. When calling, please indicate that you are having issues with a security update. -- Regards, Jerry Bryant - MCSE, MCDBA Microsoft IT Communities Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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glee wrote:
The info I am aware of is that IE6 caused the problem, and IE6 SP1 remedied it. Cite. thankyou rpl Did you in fact actually upgrade to IE6 SP1 to see if there was an improvement? |
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I will do so Gary, but I'm quite shocked Microsoft decided to release this
"patch" to the WinME community in March after I had already posted about it several times on the microsoft.public.win2000.windows_update forum since they first released the patch for Win2k -- back in January (doesn't anyone "upstairs" read the update forums???). All of my users have long ago uninstalled KB891711 on their malfunctioning Win2k systems. But releasing 891711 to WinME after it had known issues with Win2k ... well, that was just throwing grease on the fire. Read the following threads: "Catastrophic OS failures with latest security updates" posted on 2/8/2005 "Strange spontanious reseting", posted on 2/8/2005 "Win2k and KB891711 a disaster", posted on 3/7/2005 "Which Updates to Install?", posted on 3/8/2005 "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message ... Please call the number below and share your experience with MS Support. I'm not sure they have sufficient data on this issue as it affects Win2K systems. (Wait until Monday, OK?) 1-866-PCSafety (1-866-727-2338) -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP Shell/User http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm "Earl" wrote in message ... Jerry, This issue absolutely affects Windows 2000 also. "Jerry Bryant [MSFT]" wrote in message ... Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution. Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not aware of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866) PCSAFETY. When calling, please indicate that you are having issues with a security update. -- Regards, Jerry Bryant - MCSE, MCDBA Microsoft IT Communities Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. |
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