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I have an old IBM computer here with a 4 gig drive that's partitioned
2, 1, and 1 (C, D, and E). It had never had any Windows Updates, and by the time I got those all done, C drive is almost full. A lot of it is pictures saved in My Documents. Is it possible to create a My Documents folder on one of the other partitions and have Windows default to it? Or would this have to be done in the various applications that default to My Documents? The thing is rather a mess. C is Fat 32, and the other two are Fat 16. I couldn't convert D because he had Norton installed on that drive. If I were starting anew, it would all be one partition! -- -- What happens if you get scared half to death twice? -- |
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(1) Move the Swap File to D:..
Control Panel, System, Performance tab, bolt "Let me specify...", & select D:\ from the dropdown menu. OK your way out, & reboot. (The other settings there are perhaps best left at Windows defaults-- zero Min & no max Max.) On reboot, you may still have a "C:\Windows\Win386.swp", however it's size will now be zero. Now, it is said, this should only be moved to the first Primary partition on a drive. Also, if for some reason D: becomes unavailable, the swap file will revert to C:. So, better keep some space available. (2) Move Temporary Internet Files. Here's how to move it to "D:\Temporary Internet Files"... 1. "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, check 'Delete all offline content', OK, Apply, OK". May as well click to clear "History" while there. 2. Close all open windows, except Internet Properties. 3. Click the "Settings button". 4. Click "Move Folder". 5. In the "Browse for Folder" requestor... a. Highlight (D, or click plus to left of (D, & highlight any sub-folder you may wish to contain TIFs. d. Click OK 6. It will ask; give it permission to re-boot Now, TIFs are where you want them, and all is well with the world. The folder Temporary Internet Files & all it's contents has been moved to D:\. (However, check up on it now/then, as mine have snuck back a few times, likely after big IE critical updates. (3) Move the Outlook Express store folder to D:\... 1. Create a folder for them, perhaps "D:\Outlook Express Store". 2. "OE, Tools menu, Options, Maintenence tab, Store Folder button, Change button". 3. Browse to your folder, click OK & OK. 4. Close OE, & reopen it. The move will then occur. (4) Move "My Documents" to D:... 1. R-Clk "My Documents" on the Desktop, & select "Properties". 2. Change the "Target" to "D:\My Documents". It will offer to create that folder, if not already there. 3. Manually copy the contents of "C:\My Document" to "D:\My Documents". 4. CAVEAT... While it does change "Personal" in two Registry keys... HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\She ll Folders HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Use r Shell Folders ....I manually found 18 others myself. Though these were generally in app settings, I thought one/two seemed to be system keys. Windows did not itself do shortcuts, either. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main Save Directory "D:\My Documents\" HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\She ll Folders My Pictures "D:\My Documents\My Pictures" HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DirectX Diagnostic Tool TxtPath "D:\My Documents" I had to do those myself! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Menno Hershberger" wrote in message ... | I have an old IBM computer here with a 4 gig drive that's partitioned | 2, 1, and 1 (C, D, and E). It had never had any Windows Updates, and by | the time I got those all done, C drive is almost full. A lot of it is | pictures saved in My Documents. Is it possible to create a My Documents | folder on one of the other partitions and have Windows default to it? Or | would this have to be done in the various applications that default to My | Documents? | The thing is rather a mess. C is Fat 32, and the other two are Fat 16. I | couldn't convert D because he had Norton installed on that drive. If I | were starting anew, it would all be one partition! | | -- | -- What happens if you get scared half to death twice? -- |
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Suggest you convert E:\ to FAT32. Create a folder there called anything
(though you might typically call it "My Documents", then right click on the "My Documents" desktop item, Properties. You can direct it to use whatever folder you want it to, and in this case you want to use the newly created folder. An option exists to move everything from the old "My Documents folder to the new. Suggest you use that, then delete the old C:\My Documents" folder (after making sure it's empty.) "My Documents", as it appears on the Desktop and at the top of the Windows Explorer tree, is also known as the "Personal" Shell folder Anything that defaults to "My Documents" will default to wherever the "Personal" environment is Set to be in the Registry. Unfortunately, many programs discover this information while installing, use it to set their own "default" Save locations, etc., and retain it forever afterwards until you reinstall them. You might, instead, want to use Find in the Registry, search up the old path, and replace it wherever it occurs. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders But, more to the point... Norton *what*? Why does it prevent you from converting to FAT32? Regardless, why not UNINSTALL that blasted Norton, get something better and then do some finagling to get it all back to one partition? BootIt NG is a simple partitioning tool that can accomplish it. Ask if you'd like to hear more on the subject. Also sounds like that system could use some cleaning out. Perhaps you have a ton of TEMP files and unnecessary Uninstall backups you could dump? -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "Menno Hershberger" wrote in message ... I have an old IBM computer here with a 4 gig drive that's partitioned 2, 1, and 1 (C, D, and E). It had never had any Windows Updates, and by the time I got those all done, C drive is almost full. A lot of it is pictures saved in My Documents. Is it possible to create a My Documents folder on one of the other partitions and have Windows default to it? Or would this have to be done in the various applications that default to My Documents? The thing is rather a mess. C is Fat 32, and the other two are Fat 16. I couldn't convert D because he had Norton installed on that drive. If I were starting anew, it would all be one partition! -- -- What happens if you get scared half to death twice? -- |
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"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in
: Suggest you convert E:\ to FAT32. Create a folder there called anything (though you might typically call it "My Documents", then right click on the "My Documents" desktop item, Properties. You can direct it to use whatever folder you want it to, and in this case you want to use the newly created folder. An option exists to move everything from the old "My Documents folder to the new. Suggest you use that, then delete the old C:\My Documents" folder (after making sure it's empty.) "My Documents", as it appears on the Desktop and at the top of the Windows Explorer tree, is also known as the "Personal" Shell folder Anything that defaults to "My Documents" will default to wherever the "Personal" environment is Set to be in the Registry. Unfortunately, many programs discover this information while installing, use it to set their own "default" Save locations, etc., and retain it forever afterwards until you reinstall them. You might, instead, want to use Find in the Registry, search up the old path, and replace it wherever it occurs. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Sh ell Folders But, more to the point... Norton *what*? Why does it prevent you from converting to FAT32? Regardless, why not UNINSTALL that blasted Norton, get something better and then do some finagling to get it all back to one partition? BootIt NG is a simple partitioning tool that can accomplish it. Ask if you'd like to hear more on the subject. Also sounds like that system could use some cleaning out. Perhaps you have a ton of TEMP files and unnecessary Uninstall backups you could dump? The Fat 32 converter popped up the message about not being able to convert the Norton installation. I could have, and probably should have uninstalled it and started over. My guess is that the machine probably originally had Windows 95 on it and that's why the small partitions in the first place. I've never used Bootit NG, but I've heard a lot about it. It couldn't be any more dangerous than Partition Magic! There wouldn't have been room for PM on there anyway. I did manage to get the swap file, TIF files, and My Documents moved, I cleaned out the windows\temp folder and then set TEMP and TMP to d:\temp in autoexec.bat. I've got about 400 Mb free on C now. My biggest problem is that he has already installed some program files on D, including Norton. If I went the whole route I'd have to uninstall all those and reinstall after making it all one partition. And I'm not sure if he has the installation CD's or whatever to reinstall it all with. It's an old 266 and it takes forever to do anything. I'll check with him and if he's not in a hurry, I may just set it aside for a couple of days and then tackle it when I have more time. I've got a couple of others sitting here right now that are going to have to take precedence. Thanks to you and PCR for your tips. I've got everything moved that's moveable. I didn't do any manual registry changes since if I DO decide to put it all into one partiton, I'd have to undo them again. -- -- What happens if you get scared half to death twice? -- |
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Sounds to me like you have done about as much as you should (except suggest
another HD.) I'd probably leave it alone at this point--except to search out deletable materials on C:\, as I suggested before. Uninstall info for Windows patches/upgrades, folders of pre-installation extracted files such as occur with many programs and especially with drivers installation packages. You know, the kind that come in self-extracting ZIP files, unzip themselves to C:\xxxxx, run from there and then remain behind to collect dust. All that needs to be saved it the ZIP file. Also move such installation files to D:\ or E:\. -- Gary S. Terhune MS MVP for Win9x "Menno Hershberger" wrote in message ... "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in : Suggest you convert E:\ to FAT32. Create a folder there called anything (though you might typically call it "My Documents", then right click on the "My Documents" desktop item, Properties. You can direct it to use whatever folder you want it to, and in this case you want to use the newly created folder. An option exists to move everything from the old "My Documents folder to the new. Suggest you use that, then delete the old C:\My Documents" folder (after making sure it's empty.) "My Documents", as it appears on the Desktop and at the top of the Windows Explorer tree, is also known as the "Personal" Shell folder Anything that defaults to "My Documents" will default to wherever the "Personal" environment is Set to be in the Registry. Unfortunately, many programs discover this information while installing, use it to set their own "default" Save locations, etc., and retain it forever afterwards until you reinstall them. You might, instead, want to use Find in the Registry, search up the old path, and replace it wherever it occurs. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Sh ell Folders But, more to the point... Norton *what*? Why does it prevent you from converting to FAT32? Regardless, why not UNINSTALL that blasted Norton, get something better and then do some finagling to get it all back to one partition? BootIt NG is a simple partitioning tool that can accomplish it. Ask if you'd like to hear more on the subject. Also sounds like that system could use some cleaning out. Perhaps you have a ton of TEMP files and unnecessary Uninstall backups you could dump? The Fat 32 converter popped up the message about not being able to convert the Norton installation. I could have, and probably should have uninstalled it and started over. My guess is that the machine probably originally had Windows 95 on it and that's why the small partitions in the first place. I've never used Bootit NG, but I've heard a lot about it. It couldn't be any more dangerous than Partition Magic! There wouldn't have been room for PM on there anyway. I did manage to get the swap file, TIF files, and My Documents moved, I cleaned out the windows\temp folder and then set TEMP and TMP to d:\temp in autoexec.bat. I've got about 400 Mb free on C now. My biggest problem is that he has already installed some program files on D, including Norton. If I went the whole route I'd have to uninstall all those and reinstall after making it all one partition. And I'm not sure if he has the installation CD's or whatever to reinstall it all with. It's an old 266 and it takes forever to do anything. I'll check with him and if he's not in a hurry, I may just set it aside for a couple of days and then tackle it when I have more time. I've got a couple of others sitting here right now that are going to have to take precedence. Thanks to you and PCR for your tips. I've got everything moved that's moveable. I didn't do any manual registry changes since if I DO decide to put it all into one partiton, I'd have to undo them again. -- -- What happens if you get scared half to death twice? -- |
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You are welcome. Here are some deletes you may do. I know you've already
done most of it... (1) Delete the contents of C:\Windows\TEMP. Delete contents only. Under normal circumstances, C:\WINDOWS\TEMP can be cleared of files/folders after a fresh boot. You need the fresh boot, because something may be sitting there, waiting to "complete" an install. You will likely have seen a message about it, though. Anyway, you should know whether you've installed something since boot. Now, some files may return after the delete. "WebPoolFileFile" is one. That will come back next boot or when you run McAfee. I have seen one poster who objected, saying one should browse through those files, looking for .log's. He said it might be interesting to see whether there is an error message or something inside. It was too late for me by then. Naturally, if you have actually installed something into TEMP, there might be a Registry connection to it. Those, you need to un/re-install elsewhere. Finally, I even saw a poster who had system files in there, perhaps it was the Temporary Internet Files in there. That shouldn't be! Well, to be certain, is C:\Windows\TEMP mentioned in any of these Registry keys? HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\She ll Folders HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Use r Shell Folders (2) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete all offline content, OK, OK" These were your Temporary Internet Files, which, since V4, has an involvement with Windows Update. It's main purpose is to hold bits/pieces of sites you visit, to make it quicker to load next visit. Also, it is a work area for OE6. Naturally, TIFs will grow back. It's size is controllable by the slider & input box under the Settings button. (3) Most of the following shall never return again, and were work files, pre-V4: (a) "START, Settings, Folder Options, View tab"; bolt "Show all files" & UNcheck "Hide file extensions...". (b) Open Explorer to "C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate", and (c) Delete everything in this folder EXCEPT the V4 folder. (d) Open the V4 folder, and delete everything in it EXCEPT for the "iuhist.xml" file. (4) http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q238165 Deleting APPLOG Content (a) You won't even see it, unless "START, Settings, Folder Options, View tab" is bolted "Show all files"; may as well uncheck "Hide file extensions..." too. (b) START, Find, Files or Folders, Applog" (c) Double-click the Applog folder to open it. (d) On the Edit menu, click Select all. (e) On the File menu, click Delete, and then click Yes when you are prompted to confirm the deletion. APPLOG is used by Defrag to optimize the location of files on your partition. (Some files in it seem extraordinarily large.) It will be recreated and the contents will accumulate, as the second time any app is run it generates an .LGC in that folder. (Optlog.txt, in that folder, will be recreated, when next you Defrag. Save the old one only to retain a record of every app that has run, at least twice, to the date of your last Defrag.) (5) "START, Find, F/F, fff*". Got any, with a name that is tons long? Then... .......Quote......... You find that you are accumulating a lot of temporary files in your Windows directory that start with fff and have a .tmp extension, similar to this: fff137e3_{3BC6A120-EFC3-11D2-96F7-D0634EC10000}.tmp fff137e3_{3BC6A121-EFC3-11D2-96F7-D0634EC10000}.tmp These files are created by a bug in certain versions of MDM.EXE....two every time it is loaded. See he OFF2000: Files Whose Name Begins with 'fff' Appear in Windows Folder" http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=221438 OFF: How to Turn Off Machine Debug Manager, Mdm.exe http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=321410 MDM is loaded with programs such as Office, and Microsoft Script Debugger. The fix is to prevent it from loading, by renaming the file, and removing its reference in the startup group. Rename MDM.EXE to MDM.EX_ or MDM.BAD, or something like that. Look for any reference to MDM.EXE in the Startup folders: C:\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp C:\Windows\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp and in the registry run key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run and delete it. Then delete all those fff___.tmp files. Note that if you reinstall any of the programs that added MDM.EXE, you may get it loaded back, and will have to disable it again. ....glen -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP W95/98 Systems .......End....of quote....... (6) Also, do you have SpyBot? Then... "START, Find, F/F, 'Checks*.*, Fixes*.*'" (No quotes; yes comma). If you have a ton of these, then delete them. Go to the Settings screen of SpyBot, & turn off both the Checks & Fixes logs. http://www.pcmag.com/ 's HDValet can help with that. It is configurable, & installs with pre-configured suggestions. By design, it will not delete empty folders, after the files are gone. Also, it will not delete files that are "in use". It isn't pre-configured to delete it's own log & doesn't over-write it. So, occasionally, do go in and trim it. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Menno Hershberger" wrote in message ... | "Gary S. Terhune" wrote in | : | | Suggest you convert E:\ to FAT32. Create a folder there called | anything (though you might typically call it "My Documents", then | right click on the "My Documents" desktop item, Properties. You can | direct it to use whatever folder you want it to, and in this case you | want to use the newly created folder. An option exists to move | everything from the old "My Documents folder to the new. Suggest you | use that, then delete the old C:\My Documents" folder (after making | sure it's empty.) | | "My Documents", as it appears on the Desktop and at the top of the | Windows Explorer tree, is also known as the "Personal" Shell folder | Anything that defaults to "My Documents" will default to wherever the | "Personal" environment is Set to be in the Registry. Unfortunately, | many programs discover this information while installing, use it to | set their own "default" Save locations, etc., and retain it forever | afterwards until you reinstall them. You might, instead, want to use | Find in the Registry, search up the old path, and replace it wherever | it occurs. | | HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Sh | ell Folders | | But, more to the point... Norton *what*? Why does it prevent you from | converting to FAT32? Regardless, why not UNINSTALL that blasted | Norton, get something better and then do some finagling to get it all | back to one partition? BootIt NG is a simple partitioning tool that | can accomplish it. Ask if you'd like to hear more on the subject. Also | sounds like that system could use some cleaning out. Perhaps you have | a ton of TEMP files and unnecessary Uninstall backups you could dump? | The Fat 32 converter popped up the message about not being able to | convert the Norton installation. I could have, and probably should have | uninstalled it and started over. My guess is that the machine probably | originally had Windows 95 on it and that's why the small partitions in the | first place. I've never used Bootit NG, but I've heard a lot about it. It | couldn't be any more dangerous than Partition Magic! There wouldn't have | been room for PM on there anyway. | I did manage to get the swap file, TIF files, and My Documents moved, I | cleaned out the windows\temp folder and then set TEMP and TMP to | d:\temp in autoexec.bat. I've got about 400 Mb free on C now. | My biggest problem is that he has already installed some program files | on D, including Norton. If I went the whole route I'd have to uninstall all | those and reinstall after making it all one partition. And I'm not sure if | he has the installation CD's or whatever to reinstall it all with. It's an | old 266 and it takes forever to do anything. I'll check with him and if | he's not in a hurry, I may just set it aside for a couple of days and then | tackle it when I have more time. I've got a couple of others sitting here | right now that are going to have to take precedence. | Thanks to you and PCR for your tips. I've got everything moved that's | moveable. I didn't do any manual registry changes since if I DO decide to | put it all into one partiton, I'd have to undo them again. | | -- | -- What happens if you get scared half to death twice? -- |
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