Install new Ethernet Card causes VXD, and TCP/IP problems

With this trouble condition in I just noticed that in device manager under
network adapters, there are no TCP/IP entries. Install obviously is not
completing and explains why I can't get on the network once I attempt to
install the new card.

Download and run
ftp://ftp.dlink.com/NIC/dfe530tx+/Dr...river_5397.exe
It contains "diag.exe", which is a DOS setup and diagnostic program. Put the card
in the computer, remove all other unnecessary peripherals and start the computer.
Tap the F8 key repeatedly during bootup and select "Command Prompt", then type
the full path and file name to the program, for example:

c:\windows\temp\diag\diag.exe

Ben

"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message ...
Running Windows98 SE.

Attempting to install a new D-LinkDFE 530TX fast Ethernet card. I need to
replace my old card because of a broken connector. The old card (unknown
brand) works fine (just doesn't hold Ethernet plug in place, doesn't
click in). The D-Link is the second brand of new card I've tried. I
returned the first card because I thought that somehow either the PCI
card or drivers might be the problem. The cards or install CDs are not
the problem. There is something going on and I'm hoping you can help me
out.

Here is what happens:

I install the drivers as per the instructions which warn not to install
the PCI card until the drivers are loaded. Using the provided CD I
install the drivers and as instructed I select "No, I will restart my
computer later". . I then shut down and install the new card. When I turn
on the computer Windows finds the new card, finds the driver and proceeds
in time until it says it has found a version conflict with VIP.386 (A
file being copied is older than the file currently on your computer,
which is version 4.10.2224. It is recommended that you keep the existing
file, which I do). At the same moment in time this is going on I start
to get a series of messages that seem to indicate that virtual drivers
are screwed up and I can no loner communicate on the Ethernet. For
example I get a Message that my LogitecDeskManager has performed and
illegal operation which is followed by several more Start up apps
generating illegal operation messages. I attempt to use Outlook Express
and Internet Explorer but cannot connect to the network. They want to
report problems as does Firefox which says that an illegal operation has
been performed and will shut down.

I've tried removing the old card in Device manager, but in the process of
removing, it too then creates the above scenario. I also tried installing
the DFE 530 then doing the install CD, no change. In each case the only
way I can get my system back is to do an image restore on my entire
system (takes about 8 minutes). Then, I power off, reinstall the old
card turn the system on and everything is fine, except for the faulty
mechanical connector.

I'd welcome suggestions as to what might be wrong, and how to resolve the
problem.

TIA

If I do have a more current version of VIP.386 already installed, where is
Windows finding, or thinking I have an older version? Could this be a
hint
of where the problem is?

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try deleting vip.386 (to the recycle bin)

then try installing your net card

"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message
...
snip

Looking ahead, IF that works, do I just then unplug the old Ethernet card,
go to safe mode and remove it (both the entries) from Device Manager?
Doing
a remove from normal boot caused the problem also.

No! Once the new card is installed and working, you need to configure it as
your network connection using the networking wizard. This associates the
various protocols with the card and creates the actual connation between the
OS and the network.

Then you can unplug the old card and remove its drivers.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

Can you run this machine when you are not connected to the network? That
is, if you boot with the cable unplugged, does the machine then operate OK,
and does the uninstall for the existing card change at all?

Based on your description, it seems as if the machine is depending on the
network connection in order to continue operating.
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"T. Duprex" tduprexATlandmark.net wrote in message
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"Jeff Richards" wrote in
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I do not have a spare PCI slot. I had thought about removing a modem
card which I don't use, but I don't know if that would compound the
issue. Can I
just plug in the new card in place of the Modem card after loading
the drivers? Or do I have to somehow uninstall/remove the modem?



Failed Again:

After installing the new D-Link Ethernet drivers, powered down removed
modem card installed Ethernet card powered up. Windows found the new card
and proceeded to install it. And at the moment it displays the message
about finding that the VIP.386 file to be installed is older than the one
on my computer I get that first "illegal operation" message.

I then powered down, and removed the old Ethernet card. Powered up but the
damage has apparently already been done. Same manifestation of messages
and
conditions.

I then went to Control Panel/Network and removed the old Ethernet card.
Rebooted, no change.

If I do have a more current version of VIP.386 already installed, where is
Windows finding, or thinking I have an older version? Could this be a
hint
of where the problem is?

My next move is to install the new Ethernet card drivers, power down,
remove the modem card and insert the new Ethernet card.

NO luck replacing modem card, same trouble.

Additional test information:

In order to circumvent the installation of a PCI card, I installed a USB
to 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet Adapter. Installation went fine until again
Windows displayed that it has found a version conflict with VIP.386 (A
file being copied is older than the file currently on your computer,
which is version 4.10.2224). At that point I got the first illegal
operation message and I'm back in the same boat.

It appears that at the instant the Older file message appears I get the
trouble. It also appears that until I get at the root of this trouble I
will not be able to install any alternative means to replace that
defective connector.

Restored an image of my computer then I searched for vip.386 found two
instances. One in Windows/System and one in Windows/Options/CABs. The
vip file in CABs was 4.10.2002, the one in System was version 4.10.2224.
I changed the CABs vip file to vip.OLD and copied the System vip file to
the CABs folder.

I plugged in the USB to Ethernet adapter, WINDOWS recognized it and
proceeded to install driver. AGAIN, all went well until Windows stated
the VIP.386 being installed was older than what was on the computer. Do I
want to keep the later version. As soon as I hit yes, I had the onset of
illegal operation, Rundll failed etc.

So either installation of a PCI card or USB adapter is the triggering the
TCP/IP problems.

Where is Windows finding the older vip.386 file? Registry?
I could use a suggestion or two on how to isolate this problem.

TYI

Any idea where Windows is finding the old version of VIP.386

"Jeff Richards" wrote in
:

Can you run this machine when you are not connected to the network?
YES. There are days at a stretch that I run "unplugged" because the
connector is faulty.

That is, if you boot with the cable unplugged, does the machine then
operate OK.
Yes
and does the uninstall for the existing card change at
all?
No, the uninstall still causes the trouble condition.

Based on your description, it seems as if the machine is depending on
the network connection in order to continue operating.

Until I attempted to change out the Ethernet card I didn't know I had a
problem. As for the faulty connector, I would have to jury rig something
to hold the cable in place, so at times I know I wasn't connected.

It appears that in the installation of a network piece of hardware that
involves TCP/IP something goes wrong when association of that hardware
with TCP/IP drivers or something changes an address or something, takes
wrong turn and starts misdirecting apps looking for VXDs, or the network.

Again, I'd like to know where Windows is hiding the vip.386 old version
that keeps cropping up. Could this be the key to the fault?

I'm reluctant to change the network protocol on this machine to see if
that goes around the problem. I'm not that proficient dabbling in that
area.

With the implementation/association of TCP/IP protocol I'm now thinking
this problem should be shifted to Windows98.networking group. It is not
hardware or driver related.

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:02:09 -0800, "T. Duprex"
tduprexATlandmark.net put finger to keyboard and composed:

Running Windows98 SE.

Attempting to install a new D-LinkDFE 530TX fast Ethernet card. I need to
replace my old card because of a broken connector. The old card (unknown
brand) works fine (just doesn’t hold Ethernet plug in place, doesn't
click in). The D-Link is the second brand of new card I've tried. I
returned the first card because I thought that somehow either the PCI
card or drivers might be the problem. The cards or install CDs are not
the problem. There is something going on and I'm hoping you can help me
out.

Here is what happens:

I install the drivers as per the instructions which warn not to install
the PCI card until the drivers are loaded.

MSWIN98.TXT tells you to do the opposite:

Introduction:
-------------
This document describes the procedure to install Windows 98 driver
for D-Link DFE-530TX+ PCI Adapter.

Location of Driver: \WIN98\DLKRTS.SYS

Installing driver procedure on Microsoft Windows 98 :
-----------------------------------------------------
Before you start with the installation process, make sure that
your adapter should be properly installed in your PCI bus slot.
Executing Windows 98, it will auto-detect your system
configuration and find the adapter hardware.

Using the provided CD I
install the drivers and as instructed I select "No, I will restart my
computer later". . I then shut down and install the new card. When I turn
on the computer Windows finds the new card, finds the driver and proceeds
in time until it says it has found a version conflict with VIP.386 (A
file being copied is older than the file currently on your computer,
which is version 4.10.2224.

I have a Realtek RTL8139 chipped NIC. FWIW, my version of VIP.386 is
4.10.2226.

It is recommended that you keep the existing
file, which I do). At the same moment in time this is going on I start
to get a series of messages that seem to indicate that virtual drivers
are screwed up and I can no loner communicate on the Ethernet. For
example I get a Message that my LogitecDeskManager has performed and
illegal operation which is followed by several more Start up apps
generating illegal operation messages. I attempt to use Outlook Express
and Internet Explorer but cannot connect to the network. They want to
report problems as does Firefox which says that an illegal operation has
been performed and will shut down.

I've tried removing the old card in Device manager, but in the process of
removing, it too then creates the above scenario. I also tried installing
the DFE 530 then doing the install CD, no change. In each case the only
way I can get my system back is to do an image restore on my entire
system (takes about 8 minutes). Then, I power off, reinstall the old
card turn the system on and everything is fine, except for the faulty
mechanical connector.

I'd welcome suggestions as to what might be wrong, and how to resolve the
problem.

The easiest fix may be to have someone replace the broken connector.
That would amount to about 15 mins worth of labour for any competent
tech. Old NICs are basically free, so you should be able to get a
replacement connector for nothing.

TIA

Does your original NIC use the same Realtek chip?

- Franc Zabkar
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