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Old September 15th 06, 11:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
emil_lam
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Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely

Hi,

I want to uninstall Original release of Windows 98 (Windows 98
4.10.1998) from my Toshiba 4020CDT notebook and re-install Windows 98
Second edition (Windows 98 4.10.2222A).

The procedures I found on internet about uninstalling Windows 98 were
similar to below

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/186102/EN-US/

http://www.windowsreinstall.com/arti...euninstall.htm

Unfortunately, I couldn't find "Uninstall Windows 98" setting from my
current Windows 98 installation. Please suggest how could I proceed
with uninstallation ?

I couldn't find any corresponding help from Toshiba bulletins
http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...ceghdgngdgnj.0

Hope somebody could help

  #2  
Old September 16th 06, 12:33 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ron Martell
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Posts: 240
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely

"emil_lam" wrote:

Hi,

I want to uninstall Original release of Windows 98 (Windows 98
4.10.1998) from my Toshiba 4020CDT notebook and re-install Windows 98
Second edition (Windows 98 4.10.2222A).

The procedures I found on internet about uninstalling Windows 98 were
similar to below

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/186102/EN-US/

http://www.windowsreinstall.com/arti...euninstall.htm

Unfortunately, I couldn't find "Uninstall Windows 98" setting from my
current Windows 98 installation. Please suggest how could I proceed
with uninstallation ?

I couldn't find any corresponding help from Toshiba bulletins
http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...ceghdgngdgnj.0

Hope somebody could help


If Windows 98 original is the only version that is currently installed
on the computer then you have 2 basic choices:

#1: If your Windows 98 SE is a Retail Upgrade or Retail Full Install
version then you can simply install Windows 98 SE as an upgrade to the
existing installed Windows. This will preserve your installed
applications and user data files.

#2: If your Windows 98 SE is an OEM version then it cannot be
installed as an upgrade. You will need to follow these steps (or
equivalent):
a: Back up all of your user data files to CDs, a network drive, or
some other removable medium. Validate these backups to ensure that
they can be restored later.
b: Make certain you have both the installation CD and the Product Key
for the Windows 98 SE you want to install.
c: Make certain you have the installation CDs and license
codes/product keys for all of the application programs you want to
have on the computer for use with Windows 98 SE
d: Boot your computer with a Windows 98 startup disk
(www.bootdisk.com if you don't have one) and at the A:\ enter the
following command:

FORMAT C:

That will wipe out everything repeat everything on the hard drive,
leaving it clean and empty and ready to install Windows 98 SE
e: Boot your computer with the Windows 98 SE CD and install Windows
98 SE.
f: Visit the Windows Update site and get all of the critical updates
for Windows 98 SE
g: Visit the Toshiba website and get all of the driver updates for
Windows 98 SE on the model 4020CDT.
h: Install your application programs, including antivirus and
antispyware.
i: Restore your user data files from the backups you made in step a:

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
  #3  
Old September 16th 06, 12:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
kimbo_
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Posts: 32
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely


"Ron Martell" wrote in message
...
"emil_lam" wrote:

Hi,

I want to uninstall Original release of Windows 98 (Windows 98
4.10.1998) from my Toshiba 4020CDT notebook and re-install Windows 98
Second edition (Windows 98 4.10.2222A).

The procedures I found on internet about uninstalling Windows 98 were
similar to below

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/186102/EN-US/


http://www.windowsreinstall.com/arti...ndows98upgrade

uninstall.htm

Unfortunately, I couldn't find "Uninstall Windows 98" setting from my
current Windows 98 installation. Please suggest how could I proceed
with uninstallation ?

I couldn't find any corresponding help from Toshiba bulletins


http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...jsp?moid=10737

@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccgaddil
fkkedmcgfkceghdgngdgnj.0

Hope somebody could help


If Windows 98 original is the only version that is currently installed
on the computer then you have 2 basic choices:

#1: If your Windows 98 SE is a Retail Upgrade or Retail Full Install
version then you can simply install Windows 98 SE as an upgrade to the
existing installed Windows. This will preserve your installed
applications and user data files.

#2: If your Windows 98 SE is an OEM version then it cannot be
installed as an upgrade. You will need to follow these steps (or
equivalent):
a: Back up all of your user data files to CDs, a network drive, or
some other removable medium. Validate these backups to ensure that
they can be restored later.
b: Make certain you have both the installation CD and the Product Key
for the Windows 98 SE you want to install.
c: Make certain you have the installation CDs and license
codes/product keys for all of the application programs you want to
have on the computer for use with Windows 98 SE
d: Boot your computer with a Windows 98 startup disk
(www.bootdisk.com if you don't have one) and at the A:\ enter the
following command:

FORMAT C:

That will wipe out everything repeat everything on the hard drive,
leaving it clean and empty and ready to install Windows 98 SE
e: Boot your computer with the Windows 98 SE CD and install Windows
98 SE.
f: Visit the Windows Update site and get all of the critical updates
for Windows 98 SE


I may be wrong but I think that the win98se cd only installs IE5 and you
need to install IE6 SP1 to be able to D/L the critical updates from MS.


g: Visit the Toshiba website and get all of the driver updates for
Windows 98 SE on the model 4020CDT.
h: Install your application programs, including antivirus and
antispyware.
i: Restore your user data files from the backups you made in step a:

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."



  #4  
Old September 16th 06, 01:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Posts: 619
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely

snip

1. After the computer is clean, I like to install Windows 98SE first.

2. Next, I will use the cd for the graphics driver so I will not be
exposed to anything on the Internet before my security is fully up and
running.

3. Then I run the Feb. 2004 Windows Security cd since it must be in
800x600 resolution then step 2 must come first.

4. I make sure I have a firewall enabled then download Windows Updates
-- first critical ones of course

5. Then download other important things from safe sites like Majorgeeks
that I use like Adaware SE, Anti virus program like AVG, Spybot Search
and Destroy, HiJack This, CWShredder, etc.

6. Install programs

7. Implement Multi-Layered Security Strategy
  #5  
Old September 17th 06, 12:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
emil_lam
External Usenet User
 
Posts: 8
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely


Ron Martell 寫�:


If Windows 98 original is the only version that is currently installed
on the computer then you have 2 basic choices:

#1: If your Windows 98 SE is a Retail Upgrade or Retail Full Install
version then you can simply install Windows 98 SE as an upgrade to the
existing installed Windows. This will preserve your installed
applications and user data files.


I don't know exactly cos the initial installation was completed by
Toshiba technician.


#2: If your Windows 98 SE is an OEM version then it cannot be
installed as an upgrade. You will need to follow these steps (or
equivalent):
a: Back up all of your user data files to CDs, a network drive, or
some other removable medium. Validate these backups to ensure that
they can be restored later.


All useful data copied away using PCAnywhere or floppies.

b: Make certain you have both the installation CD and the Product Key
for the Windows 98 SE you want to install.


Actually my Windows 98 should be Original release of Windows 98 cos it
was shown as "Windows 98 4.10.1998" under My computer tab.

c: Make certain you have the installation CDs and license
codes/product keys for all of the application programs you want to
have on the computer for use with Windows 98 SE


In fact I intend to replace Windows 98 by Windows 98 second edition.

d: Boot your computer with a Windows 98 startup disk
(www.bootdisk.com if you don't have one) and at the A:\ enter the
following command:

FORMAT C:


I don't want to format c: if there is other solution cos Toshiba staff
may had installed some Toshiba drivers or small applications in my
notebook (I found one big hidden file named Toshiba.dat at c:\). I'm
afraid formatting c: will delete some essential files.


That will wipe out everything repeat everything on the hard drive,
leaving it clean and empty and ready to install Windows 98 SE
e: Boot your computer with the Windows 98 SE CD and install Windows
98 SE.
f: Visit the Windows Update site and get all of the critical updates
for Windows 98 SE
g: Visit the Toshiba website and get all of the driver updates for
Windows 98 SE on the model 4020CDT.
h: Install your application programs, including antivirus and
antispyware.
i: Restore your user data files from the backups you made in step a:


Instead of adopting your suggestion. I tried one "dirty" method.

1. I have one bootable ME CD. Also, by running TSETUP.EXE (Toshiba
supplied BIOS configuration utility), I found the notebook allows
booting from CD-ROM.

2. I changed BIOS setting to boot from this ME CD. I choosed to boot to
DOS mode. Then I use deltree to delete C:\WINDOWS & C:\PROGRAM FILES.

3. I also wanted to delete those system files left in C:\ but failed
cos I couldn't remove the system & hidden attributes from them. So I
left them there.

4. I ran setup (ME installation program) from CD-ROM. Luckily,
installation went on smooth until I met one error message "KBC ERROR"
ME installation almost completed (the error was Toshiba generated
error). I ignored it by pressing RESET button.

5. ME installation went to completion, so far nothing found abnormal.

I thought I was fortunately because I could force a newer version of
Windows installation without need to clear all old version Windows 98
files left.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Ron, thanks for your suggestion.

--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."


  #6  
Old September 17th 06, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
emil_lam
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Posts: 8
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely

Ron Martell 寫�:


If Windows 98 original is the only version that is currently installed
on the computer then you have 2 basic choices:

#1: If your Windows 98 SE is a Retail Upgrade or Retail Full Install
version then you can simply install Windows 98 SE as an upgrade to the
existing installed Windows. This will preserve your installed
applications and user data files.


I don't know exactly cos the initial installation was completed by
Toshiba technician.


#2: If your Windows 98 SE is an OEM version then it cannot be
installed as an upgrade. You will need to follow these steps (or
equivalent):
a: Back up all of your user data files to CDs, a network drive, or
some other removable medium. Validate these backups to ensure that
they can be restored later.


All useful data copied away using PCAnywhere or floppies.

b: Make certain you have both the installation CD and the Product Key
for the Windows 98 SE you want to install.


Actually my Windows 98 should be Original release of Windows 98 cos it
was shown as "Windows 98 4.10.1998" under My computer tab.

c: Make certain you have the installation CDs and license
codes/product keys for all of the application programs you want to
have on the computer for use with Windows 98 SE


In fact I intend to replace Windows 98 by Windows 98 second edition.

d: Boot your computer with a Windows 98 startup disk
(www.bootdisk.com if you don't have one) and at the A:\ enter the
following command:

FORMAT C:


I don't want to format c: if there is other solution cos Toshiba staff
may had installed some Toshiba drivers or small applications in my
notebook (I found one big hidden file named Toshiba.dat at c:\). I'm
afraid formatting c: will delete some essential files.


That will wipe out everything repeat everything on the hard drive,
leaving it clean and empty and ready to install Windows 98 SE
e: Boot your computer with the Windows 98 SE CD and install Windows
98 SE.
f: Visit the Windows Update site and get all of the critical updates
for Windows 98 SE
g: Visit the Toshiba website and get all of the driver updates for
Windows 98 SE on the model 4020CDT.
h: Install your application programs, including antivirus and
antispyware.
i: Restore your user data files from the backups you made in step a:


Instead of adopting your suggestion. I tried one "dirty" method.

1. I have one bootable ME CD. Also, by running TSETUP.EXE (Toshiba
supplied BIOS configuration utility), I found the notebook allows
booting from CD-ROM.

2. I changed BIOS setting to boot from this ME CD. I choosed to boot to
DOS mode. Then I use deltree to delete C:\WINDOWS & C:\PROGRAM FILES.

3. I also wanted to delete those system files left in C:\ but failed
cos I couldn't remove the system & hidden attributes from them. So I
left them there.

4. I ran setup (ME installation program) from CD-ROM. Luckily,
installation went on smooth until I met one error message "KBC ERROR"
ME installation almost completed (the error was Toshiba generated
error). I ignored it by pressing RESET button.

5. ME installation went to completion, so far nothing found abnormal.

I thought I was fortunate because I could force installation of a newer
version OS without need to clear all old version Windows 98 files left.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada


Ron, thanks for your suggestion.

--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."


  #7  
Old September 17th 06, 01:01 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
emil_lam
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Posts: 8
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely


Dan 寫�:

snip

1. After the computer is clean, I like to install Windows 98SE first.

2. Next, I will use the cd for the graphics driver so I will not be
exposed to anything on the Internet before my security is fully up and
running.


How graphics driver relates to security holes ? Will your computer
physical connection to internet is always there while you're still
installing Windows ?


3. Then I run the Feb. 2004 Windows Security cd since it must be in
800x600 resolution then step 2 must come first.

4. I make sure I have a firewall enabled then download Windows Updates
-- first critical ones of course

5. Then download other important things from safe sites like Majorgeeks
that I use like Adaware SE, Anti virus program like AVG, Spybot Search
and Destroy, HiJack This, CWShredder, etc.


I like Adaware SE, I think it's handy. But I doubt AVG usefulness. Once
I had using AVG but I found it couldn't prevent my computer from virus
infection nor could it detect virus infection attempt. Does any
software you mentioned software own similar functions as Norton
Internet Security ? If so, do they perform better ?


6. Install programs

7. Implement Multi-Layered Security Strategy


  #8  
Old September 17th 06, 05:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Dan
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Posts: 619
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely

emil_lam wrote:
Dan 寫�:

snip

1. After the computer is clean, I like to install Windows 98SE first.

2. Next, I will use the cd for the graphics driver so I will not be
exposed to anything on the Internet before my security is fully up and
running.


How graphics driver relates to security holes ? Will your computer
physical connection to internet is always there while you're still
installing Windows ?

3. Then I run the Feb. 2004 Windows Security cd since it must be in
800x600 resolution then step 2 must come first.

4. I make sure I have a firewall enabled then download Windows Updates
-- first critical ones of course

5. Then download other important things from safe sites like Majorgeeks
that I use like Adaware SE, Anti virus program like AVG, Spybot Search
and Destroy, HiJack This, CWShredder, etc.


I like Adaware SE, I think it's handy. But I doubt AVG usefulness. Once
I had using AVG but I found it couldn't prevent my computer from virus
infection nor could it detect virus infection attempt. Does any
software you mentioned software own similar functions as Norton
Internet Security ? If so, do they perform better ?

6. Install programs

7. Implement Multi-Layered Security Strategy



I feel Norton uses too many system resources. The Ethernet Cable is not
plugged into my computer when I install Windows. The graphics driver is
needed for the security cd since it requires 800x600 or better.
  #9  
Old September 17th 06, 08:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.setup,alt.windows98,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Ron Martell
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Posts: 240
Default How to uninstall Windows 98 safely

"emil_lam" wrote:


Ron Martell ???


If Windows 98 original is the only version that is currently installed
on the computer then you have 2 basic choices:

#1: If your Windows 98 SE is a Retail Upgrade or Retail Full Install
version then you can simply install Windows 98 SE as an upgrade to the
existing installed Windows. This will preserve your installed
applications and user data files.


I don't know exactly cos the initial installation was completed by
Toshiba technician.


Not the Windows 98 currently installed. I am talking about the
Windows 98 SE (Second Edition) that you want to install.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
Syberfix Remote Computer Repair

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 




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