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Old May 5th 08, 10:32 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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The registry is a very sensitive component of the windows operating
system which can most often be the core of any problems you may
experience. The reason why is because it contains very important
information about your computers hardware and software configurations
which are stored in the form of registry keys. So basically every time
you decide to add or remove software or upgrade hardware, those
relevant entries in the registry will change.This causes it to become
"clogged up" and will eventually lead to problems with functionality
of programs and general performances.
It would be great if computers would constantly function as if they
were new, but unfortunately as time passes the average pc user will
install and remove various software from their pc causing problems. We
all know what a pain it can be when a computer starts acting sluggish
and won't respond to certain actions we give and this can be sorted
out by using registry cleaners. There are quite a few of these
software programs available for download on the internet of which some
will perform better than others. I would like to briefly review one of
them which has been voted as the top registry cleaner available on the
net. It's called Reg Cure....

Registry Repair: http://groups.google.com/group/regrepairsbv
  #2  
Old May 5th 08, 04:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Default DANGER! D ANGER! Free Registry Cleaner Download Review

ALL registry cleaners are VERY dangerous to your system, and will actually
FIX a problem, even just "slowness", approximately NEVER.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


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Old May 5th 08, 05:59 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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SPAM!

Think your Registry needs "cleaning" or "repairing"? Read
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

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Old May 5th 08, 08:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo
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wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:54:57 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote:

ALL registry cleaners are VERY dangerous to your system, and will

actually
FIX a problem, even just "slowness", approximately NEVER.


I run Regseeker regularly and never had a problem. I have never seen
it fix any problems, but it does remove a lot of useless junk.
Without such programs, it seems to me that the registry would get so
huge that it would be crash prone. For example, lets say I created a
folder called "JUNK". I used that folder to temporarily place a bunch
of things I find on my hard drive, which are everything from text, or
Wordpad notes, to downloaded pictures, file downloads, etc. Then I
begin sorting out the junk, and use winzip to open many of the
downloads, and some photo viewer to look at the pictures, and Wordpad
to look at many of the notes. ALL of these things are documented in
the registry. Wordpad, Winzip, Photo Viewers all store "recently
opened files".



snip

I agree with Gary Terhune 100% .

Sure, you could run the cleaner and maybe it would not hurt anything...
and perhaps it would remove a few un-needed registry keys...
but from running Windows...you'd not notice any difference in performance.


Could someone please give me a good estimate of how many registry entries
that would be likely to exist and a typical Win98 installation???


I usually tell folks something like this:

What is removing a few un-needed registry keys going to do...
when your registry has perhaps 10,000 entries or more?


(That 10,000 figure was just a guess on my part...and I must say it was an
un-educated one.)

BTW: Since I often play with old, junk machines I have tested a number of
registry cleaners
and at least a few times, they *did *do some minor damage...
I'm sure they could potentially do some real damage.


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Old May 5th 08, 08:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co.
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wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:54:57 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote:

ALL registry cleaners are VERY dangerous to your system, and will
actually
FIX a problem, even just "slowness", approximately NEVER.


I run Regseeker regularly and never had a problem. I have never seen
it fix any problems, but it does remove a lot of useless junk.
Without such programs, it seems to me that the registry would get so
huge that it would be crash prone. For example, lets say I created a
folder called "JUNK". I used that folder to temporarily place a bunch
of things I find on my hard drive, which are everything from text, or
Wordpad notes, to downloaded pictures, file downloads, etc. Then I
begin sorting out the junk, and use winzip to open many of the
downloads, and some photo viewer to look at the pictures, and Wordpad
to look at many of the notes. ALL of these things are documented in
the registry. Wordpad, Winzip, Photo Viewers all store "recently
opened files".

Eventually I get everything put on a CD or other media and I delete
the "Junk" folder. Then I remove several of the demo downloads I tried.

Running Regseeker finds multiple references to that JUNK folder,
references to Winzip, Wordpad, etc opening files, and many things
relating to the demos I tried and removed. All of that is removed
from the registry, thus keeping it small and clean. Of course I
always read what is being cleaned (removed). 99.9% of the time it's
just this old stuff that is not needed or wanted.

So how can you say that Reg cleaners are dangerous and should not be
used.


Because he (and a few others here) know what they're talking about.

I do agree to be careful what is being removed, but without
them the registry will become a pile of useless garbage.


Nonsense.


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Old May 5th 08, 10:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Ah gosh I hate to do this, BUT,,,,

As we all know, the registry can become quite bloated with entries which
relate to nothing of value, from MRU lists to applications which fill the
registry with open files which no longer exist, to applications supposedly
removed but actually leave, at times, countless worthless entries; to any
number of other things which aren't need, or may have somehow been changed
at sometime.
We also know or should know that the registry will FAIL or be prone to
failure after exceeding a certain size [parsing issues].... which then
becomes an issue which may affect recoverability in a time of crisis.

All the MVP that I have observed here, have, at some time, posted methods
to clean errant registry entries, compact the registry, and otherwise work
upon the registry... They also have repeatedly advised, when confronted with
ghost entries, bad drivers or applications or otherwise,, advised HOW to
*manually* search the registry to *clean it*.

I personally have used [and still use] several tools to clean the registry,
which IF PROPERLY USED can be relied upon to make a system lean and mean,,,
but the key is PROPERLY USED... ANY use of a cleaner should be taken with *a
grain of salt*. AUTOMATIC cleaning is not a good idea. IF the user is
unfamiliar with the registry, then damage will likely occur. IF, on the
other hand, the user familiarizes theirselves with the registry, makes an
effort to first increase their knowledge of the entries by searching first
to see if they ARE un-needed PRIOR to removal, then the desired results can
be achieved.

Never overlook the KEY, that personal knowledge and understanding is YOUR
responsibility. OR stay away from these cleaners as they MIGHT cause more
harm than good.

These things ARE after all, relied upon quite heavily during cleanup
activities from SpyWare, Virus, and other such activities...

--
MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| wrote:
| On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:54:57 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote:
|
| ALL registry cleaners are VERY dangerous to your system, and will
| actually
| FIX a problem, even just "slowness", approximately NEVER.
|
| I run Regseeker regularly and never had a problem. I have never seen
| it fix any problems, but it does remove a lot of useless junk.
| Without such programs, it seems to me that the registry would get so
| huge that it would be crash prone. For example, lets say I created a
| folder called "JUNK". I used that folder to temporarily place a bunch
| of things I find on my hard drive, which are everything from text, or
| Wordpad notes, to downloaded pictures, file downloads, etc. Then I
| begin sorting out the junk, and use winzip to open many of the
| downloads, and some photo viewer to look at the pictures, and Wordpad
| to look at many of the notes. ALL of these things are documented in
| the registry. Wordpad, Winzip, Photo Viewers all store "recently
| opened files".
|
| Eventually I get everything put on a CD or other media and I delete
| the "Junk" folder. Then I remove several of the demo downloads I tried.
|
| Running Regseeker finds multiple references to that JUNK folder,
| references to Winzip, Wordpad, etc opening files, and many things
| relating to the demos I tried and removed. All of that is removed
| from the registry, thus keeping it small and clean. Of course I
| always read what is being cleaned (removed). 99.9% of the time it's
| just this old stuff that is not needed or wanted.
|
| So how can you say that Reg cleaners are dangerous and should not be
| used.
|
| Because he (and a few others here) know what they're talking about.
|
| I do agree to be careful what is being removed, but without
| them the registry will become a pile of useless garbage.
|
| Nonsense.
|
|


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Old May 5th 08, 11:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
philo
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"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
Ah gosh I hate to do this, BUT,,,,

As we all know, the registry can become quite bloated with entries which
relate to nothing of value, from MRU lists to applications which fill the
registry with open files which no longer exist, to applications supposedly
removed but actually leave, at times, countless worthless entries; to any
number of other things which aren't need, or may have somehow been changed
at sometime.
We also know or should know that the registry will FAIL or be prone to
failure after exceeding a certain size [parsing issues].... which then
becomes an issue which may affect recoverability in a time of crisis.

All the MVP that I have observed here, have, at some time, posted methods
to clean errant registry entries, compact the registry, and otherwise work
upon the registry... They also have repeatedly advised, when confronted

with
ghost entries, bad drivers or applications or otherwise,, advised HOW to
*manually* search the registry to *clean it*.

I personally have used [and still use] several tools to clean the

registry,
which IF PROPERLY USED can be relied upon to make a system lean and

mean,,,
but the key is PROPERLY USED... ANY use of a cleaner should be taken with

*a
grain of salt*. AUTOMATIC cleaning is not a good idea. IF the user is
unfamiliar with the registry, then damage will likely occur. IF, on the
other hand, the user familiarizes theirselves with the registry, makes an
effort to first increase their knowledge of the entries by searching first
to see if they ARE un-needed PRIOR to removal, then the desired results

can
be achieved.

Never overlook the KEY, that personal knowledge and understanding is YOUR
responsibility. OR stay away from these cleaners as they MIGHT cause more
harm than good.

These things ARE after all, relied upon quite heavily during cleanup
activities from SpyWare, Virus, and other such activities...



Sure...as long as you know what you are doing...
or have expert help...manual deletion may sometimes be needed.

That said...it is still not a good idea to trust a registry utility.

If one really knows what they are doing...one probably could use such a
utility
with such a level of cognizance as to do some good...
however...one with sufficient skills to use a registry utility
judiciously...
would have the skills to simply manually delete problematic keys.




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Old May 5th 08, 11:26 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Bill in Co.
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philo wrote:
"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
Ah gosh I hate to do this, BUT,,,,

As we all know, the registry can become quite bloated with entries which
relate to nothing of value, from MRU lists to applications which fill the
registry with open files which no longer exist, to applications
supposedly
removed but actually leave, at times, countless worthless entries; to any
number of other things which aren't need, or may have somehow been
changed
at sometime.
We also know or should know that the registry will FAIL or be prone to
failure after exceeding a certain size [parsing issues].... which then
becomes an issue which may affect recoverability in a time of crisis.

All the MVP that I have observed here, have, at some time, posted
methods
to clean errant registry entries, compact the registry, and otherwise
work
upon the registry... They also have repeatedly advised, when confronted
with
ghost entries, bad drivers or applications or otherwise,, advised HOW to
*manually* search the registry to *clean it*.

I personally have used [and still use] several tools to clean the
registry,
which IF PROPERLY USED can be relied upon to make a system lean and
mean,,,
but the key is PROPERLY USED... ANY use of a cleaner should be taken with
*a grain of salt*. AUTOMATIC cleaning is not a good idea. IF the user

is
unfamiliar with the registry, then damage will likely occur. IF, on the
other hand, the user familiarizes theirselves with the registry, makes an
effort to first increase their knowledge of the entries by searching
first
to see if they ARE un-needed PRIOR to removal, then the desired results
can
be achieved.

Never overlook the KEY, that personal knowledge and understanding is
YOUR
responsibility. OR stay away from these cleaners as they MIGHT cause more
harm than good.

These things ARE after all, relied upon quite heavily during cleanup
activities from SpyWare, Virus, and other such activities...



Sure...as long as you know what you are doing...
or have expert help...manual deletion may sometimes be needed.

That said...it is still not a good idea to trust a registry utility.

If one really knows what they are doing...one probably could use such a
utility with such a level of cognizance as to do some good...
however...one with sufficient skills to use a registry utility
judiciously...
would have the skills to simply manually delete problematic keys.


Yup.
And as I've said before, if you aren't comfortable with regedit, you really
have no business messing with the registry with any of those "registry
cleaning" utilities.

Or, to put it another way, "a word to the wise is sufficient".


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Old May 6th 08, 12:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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You are absolutely wrong. MRU entries in the Registry are automatically
limited in number at some point and the lists become FIFO in nature. All
told, the MRUs add up to a miniscule amount of data, and removing them does
not help your system run better, not one bit. Now, if you're *paranoid* and
don't want those things in there, there are much better ways to go about
keeping them gone. As far as not breaking your system, HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!?
Does your system run perfectly, with no hitches? Never any hiccup, never any
blue screens, etc., etc. How about just taking another five seconds to load
the first time you reboot or reload an app, while it RE-WRITES what your
stupid cleaner just removed? IOW, programs FIXING themselves after your
cleaner screws them up?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:54:57 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote:

ALL registry cleaners are VERY dangerous to your system, and will actually
FIX a problem, even just "slowness", approximately NEVER.


I run Regseeker regularly and never had a problem. I have never seen
it fix any problems, but it does remove a lot of useless junk.
Without such programs, it seems to me that the registry would get so
huge that it would be crash prone. For example, lets say I created a
folder called "JUNK". I used that folder to temporarily place a bunch
of things I find on my hard drive, which are everything from text, or
Wordpad notes, to downloaded pictures, file downloads, etc. Then I
begin sorting out the junk, and use winzip to open many of the
downloads, and some photo viewer to look at the pictures, and Wordpad
to look at many of the notes. ALL of these things are documented in
the registry. Wordpad, Winzip, Photo Viewers all store "recently
opened files".

Eventually I get everything put on a CD or other media and I delete
the "Junk" folder. Then I remove several of the demo downloads I
tried.

Running Regseeker finds multiple references to that JUNK folder,
references to Winzip, Wordpad, etc opening files, and many things
relating to the demos I tried and removed. All of that is removed
from the registry, thus keeping it small and clean. Of course I
always read what is being cleaned (removed). 99.9% of the time it's
just this old stuff that is not needed or wanted.

So how can you say that Reg cleaners are dangerous and should not be
used. I do agree to be careful what is being removed, but without
them the registry will become a pile of useless garbage.


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Old May 6th 08, 12:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Gary S. Terhune[_2_]
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Please provide documentation of Registry bloat causing any significant
failures". Only such thing I've heard of is SCANREG /FIX failing to run on a
large Registry. BFD.

Yes, sometimes the Registry needs work, usually after a wide-spread disaster
involving the user doing something that shouldn't have been done, but only
an expert is likely to know for sure, and while tools *might* locate a few
of those entries, you know better than most, I think, how much of any real
Registry *REPAIR*, as opposed to "cleaning", is a painstaking MANUAL search
and research procedure that few if any tools do well at all.

I used them regularly for several years, to find "crap" and delete it,
ALWAYS having to refuse the deletion of some things I had learned weren't a
good idea to remove (or were unimportant MRUs, etc.), and after many years
of such experience, I arrived at the stance I take now. I've never once had
any success helping anyone else by having them run any Registry tools,
whereas I have several times dealt with people who were screwed by their
Registry tools, even the same ones I'd been using and thought were
"idiot-proof".

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
www.grystmill.com


"MEB" meb@not wrote in message
...
Ah gosh I hate to do this, BUT,,,,

As we all know, the registry can become quite bloated with entries which
relate to nothing of value, from MRU lists to applications which fill the
registry with open files which no longer exist, to applications supposedly
removed but actually leave, at times, countless worthless entries; to any
number of other things which aren't need, or may have somehow been changed
at sometime.
We also know or should know that the registry will FAIL or be prone to
failure after exceeding a certain size [parsing issues].... which then
becomes an issue which may affect recoverability in a time of crisis.

All the MVP that I have observed here, have, at some time, posted methods
to clean errant registry entries, compact the registry, and otherwise work
upon the registry... They also have repeatedly advised, when confronted
with
ghost entries, bad drivers or applications or otherwise,, advised HOW to
*manually* search the registry to *clean it*.

I personally have used [and still use] several tools to clean the
registry,
which IF PROPERLY USED can be relied upon to make a system lean and
mean,,,
but the key is PROPERLY USED... ANY use of a cleaner should be taken with
*a
grain of salt*. AUTOMATIC cleaning is not a good idea. IF the user is
unfamiliar with the registry, then damage will likely occur. IF, on the
other hand, the user familiarizes theirselves with the registry, makes an
effort to first increase their knowledge of the entries by searching first
to see if they ARE un-needed PRIOR to removal, then the desired results
can
be achieved.

Never overlook the KEY, that personal knowledge and understanding is YOUR
responsibility. OR stay away from these cleaners as they MIGHT cause more
harm than good.

These things ARE after all, relied upon quite heavily during cleanup
activities from SpyWare, Virus, and other such activities...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com
--
_________


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
| wrote:
| On Mon, 5 May 2008 08:54:57 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" none wrote:
|
| ALL registry cleaners are VERY dangerous to your system, and will
| actually
| FIX a problem, even just "slowness", approximately NEVER.
|
| I run Regseeker regularly and never had a problem. I have never seen
| it fix any problems, but it does remove a lot of useless junk.
| Without such programs, it seems to me that the registry would get so
| huge that it would be crash prone. For example, lets say I created a
| folder called "JUNK". I used that folder to temporarily place a bunch
| of things I find on my hard drive, which are everything from text, or
| Wordpad notes, to downloaded pictures, file downloads, etc. Then I
| begin sorting out the junk, and use winzip to open many of the
| downloads, and some photo viewer to look at the pictures, and Wordpad
| to look at many of the notes. ALL of these things are documented in
| the registry. Wordpad, Winzip, Photo Viewers all store "recently
| opened files".
|
| Eventually I get everything put on a CD or other media and I delete
| the "Junk" folder. Then I remove several of the demo downloads I
tried.
|
| Running Regseeker finds multiple references to that JUNK folder,
| references to Winzip, Wordpad, etc opening files, and many things
| relating to the demos I tried and removed. All of that is removed
| from the registry, thus keeping it small and clean. Of course I
| always read what is being cleaned (removed). 99.9% of the time it's
| just this old stuff that is not needed or wanted.
|
| So how can you say that Reg cleaners are dangerous and should not be
| used.
|
| Because he (and a few others here) know what they're talking about.
|
| I do agree to be careful what is being removed, but without
| them the registry will become a pile of useless garbage.
|
| Nonsense.
|
|



 




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