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In message , Char Jackson
writes: On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:01:13 -0600, Ken Springer wrote: When I see people with a decent sized widescreen monitor, and they use it with windows maximised, I just want to cringe. I think I know what you mean. When I encounter people who think everyone else should do things the way they do, I similarly want to cringe. Point taken - but, the happy medium is somewhere in between (never saying _anything_ when we see someone doing something in a way we think could be changed to benefit _them_, and always saying "do it my way"). Some softwares (word processing often) default to maximised, which may be appropriate for some users but not all, especially where a large (and non-portrait) monitor is in use, but some users may never have thought of changing it (or in some cases may not be aware they can), so _suggestion_ is never out of place, if made diplomatically. I guess they just never think there may be a better way to do things, so they get the job done faster. Either that, or they're doing things exactly how they want to do them. Nothing lost by asking, though, as long as you accept that answer if they give it. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Gentlemen, you can't fight in he this is the war room!" (Dr. Strangelove) |
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A screen question.
On 9/11/19 4:58 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Char Jackson writes: On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 21:01:13 -0600, Ken Springer wrote: When I see people with a decent sized widescreen monitor, and they use it with windows maximised, I just want to cringe. I think I know what you mean. When I encounter people who think everyone else should do things the way they do, I similarly want to cringe. Point taken - but, the happy medium is somewhere in between (never saying _anything_ when we see someone doing something in a way we think could be changed to benefit _them_, and always saying "do it my way"). Some softwares (word processing often) default to maximised, which may be appropriate for some users but not all, especially where a large (and non-portrait) monitor is in use, but some users may never have thought of changing it (or in some cases may not be aware they can), so _suggestion_ is never out of place, if made diplomatically. I've found software generally only opens maximized when run for the first time. After that, window size and position is remembered. I guess they just never think there may be a better way to do things, so they get the job done faster. Either that, or they're doing things exactly how they want to do them. Nothing lost by asking, though, as long as you accept that answer if they give it. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.5 Firefox 67.0.4 Thunderbird 60.7 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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A screen question.
On 9/11/19 4:51 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken Springer writes: On 9/10/19 2:49 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Ken Springer writes: [] When I look at a vertical straight line, this is what I see: | \ | | / | More or less. LOL Oh dear! I don't think _any_ monitor (or playing with resolutions) will fix that )-:. I can't see how glasses will, either, unless your eyeballs don't move, to preserve alignment. Yep. Nothing except a new eyeball will fix that. _Could_ a _contact_ lens - or surgically attached one? In other words, is the distortion in your lens, retina, or image processing brainware? A contact lens would have to be oriented correctly when you put them in. Possibly new lenses, as you get with cataract surgery, but then what do you do if you eyeball changes? Thee surgery is quick, but it isn't cheap. I experimented with the options of increasing the text size by 125% or 150%. Bit this does not change the size of the text in menus in the windows. And, if the situation is right, dialog boxes may have the buttons you need to click on off the screen to the bottom, and you can't get to them! The text size manipulations aren't great - and many softwares don't honour them properly, so if you _do_ increase text size, they don't enlarge the box it goes in, so you end up with either overlapping letters, or text spilling out of the box )-:. They're so crappy, why do they bother to keep them? Good question. (By the way, when I was looking yesterday, this system only offered 100% and 125%. No 150%.) Probably lethargy. I noticed no 150% just recently, somewhere. I wonder if that was a laptop with a smaller screen. [] The really sad thing is, for everything in a window, it could be adjusted and changed in XP and earlier. But then they got rid of it. If pressed, they'd probably say they removed those settings because some people change them then don't remember how (or _that_) they did, and think something's wrong. Rather like you could change various aspects of the display (colours, widths, fonts ...) in Windows 95 - and still could in '98, but had to press an "Advanced" button to get at them (-:. That's a possibility I hadn't thought of. End result is penalizing the majority for just a few ignorant ones. snip This Pro-Art rotates 900 Or 8:5 (-: Does it really display as 900 on your system? I ask, because I used the degree sign when I typed the message. Yes. At least, I didn't amend the quoted text; I think it had been amended by the time I got it, rather than my system, which can display the ° sign OK. (That's the degree sign, in case it has been amended by the time _you_ see it.) It must have been amended, as your degree sign came through. snip (I use "[]" to mean the same thing.) [] I noticed. LOL snip You can blame the movie people for the widescreen today, IMO. Yes and no. As I said, widescreen isn't that great even for most movie scenes, but (on the whole) we're stuck with it for movies - but its introduction in the PC world was due to the belief that movie-viewing was going to be a large part of what PCs were going to be used for, which I dispute (even now, and certainly at the time of its introduction). But any such discussion is pointless as we are where we are. (And it's preferable to VVS!) Long ago, I was reading movie trivia, and discovered there were various aspect ratios to the new widescreen movies. IIRC, one was 16:9. [] Teamviewer is installed on all my desktops, for the same use as you. Then when they call, I don't have to go to a particular computer. Have you had the false diagnosis of commercial use? (When I got it, I looked into the pricing: it's such a good utility that I would have considered it. But it's so high it really is only for the professional user - especially as it's monthly rather than a one-off.) Teamviewer screwed up, a bug in an update that erroneously mislabeled the use. I think this was exacerbated if you chose the combo private/commercial option when you installed it. All I had to do was send an email to a specific email address, and my stuff was reset. [] Most of those still don't seem to have got to grips with the advantages of flat screen; they have a space into which the monitor is placed, still needing a stand and space all around, as if it was still a CRT monitor with bulk. None of them seem to have it attached to the back wall, let alone used lateral thinking and attached it as hinged _over_ some of the compartments thus allowing a bigger screen. The newest, and biggest, cabinet is now 18 years old. The other, at least 10 years older. Ah, so designed in the CRT era; fair enough. I assumed that the ones (computer desks) on the page you gave me a link to were mostly new ones, and I was surprised they all still showed the monitor as standing in one of the boxes, rather than fixed thus wasting less space. The older one, definitely. Smaller widescreens may have been coming in with the newer one, but I simply don't remember. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.5 Firefox 67.0.4 Thunderbird 60.7 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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A screen question.
On 2019-09-11 9:30 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 4:51 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Ken Springer writes: On 9/10/19 2:49 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Ken Springer writes: [] When I look at a vertical straight line, this is what I see: | \ Â*Â* | Â*Â* | / | More or less.Â* LOL Â* Oh dear! I don't think _any_ monitor (or playing with resolutions) will fix that )-:. I can't see how glasses will, either, unless your eyeballs don't move, to preserve alignment. Yep.Â* Nothing except a new eyeball will fix that. _Could_ a _contact_ lens - or surgically attached one? In other words, is the distortion in your lens, retina, or image processing brainware? A contact lens would have to be oriented correctly when you put them in. Â*Possibly new lenses, as you get with cataract surgery, but then what do you do if you eyeball changes?Â* Thee surgery is quick, but it isn't cheap. I experimented with the options of increasing the text size by 125% or 150%.Â* Bit this does not change the size of the text in menus in the windows.Â* And, if the situation is right, dialog boxes may have the buttons you need to click on off the screen to the bottom, and you can't get to them! Â* The text size manipulations aren't great - and many softwares don't honour them properly, so if you _do_ increase text size, they don't enlarge the box it goes in, so you end up with either overlapping letters, or text spilling out of the box )-:. They're so crappy, why do they bother to keep them? Good question. (By the way, when I was looking yesterday, this system only offered 100% and 125%. No 150%.) Probably lethargy. I noticed no 150% just recently, somewhere.Â* I wonder if that was a laptop with a smaller screen. Â*[] The really sad thing is, for everything in a window, it could be adjusted and changed in XP and earlier.Â* But then they got rid of it. If pressed, they'd probably say they removed those settings because some people change them then don't remember how (or _that_) they did, and think something's wrong. Rather like you could change various aspects of the display (colours, widths, fonts ...) in Windows 95 - and still could in '98, but had to press an "Advanced" button to get at them (-:. That's a possibility I hadn't thought of.Â* End result is penalizing the majority for just a few ignorant ones. snip This Pro-Art rotates 900 Or 8:5 (-: Does it really display as 900 on your system?Â* I ask, because I used the degree sign when I typed the message. Yes. At least, I didn't amend the quoted text; I think it had been amended by the time I got it, rather than my system, which can display the ° sign OK. (That's the degree sign, in case it has been amended by the time _you_ see it.) It must have been amended, as your degree sign came through. snip (I use "[]" to mean the same thing.) [] I noticed.Â* LOL snip You can blame the movie people for the widescreen today, IMO. Yes and no. As I said, widescreen isn't that great even for most movie scenes, but (on the whole) we're stuck with it for movies - but its introduction in the PC world was due to the belief that movie-viewing was going to be a large part of what PCs were going to be used for, which I dispute (even now, and certainly at the time of its introduction). But any such discussion is pointless as we are where we are. (And it's preferable to VVS!) Long ago, I was reading movie trivia, and discovered there were various aspect ratios to the new widescreen movies.Â* IIRC, one was 16:9. [] Teamviewer is installed on all my desktops, for the same use as you. Then when they call, I don't have to go to a particular computer. Have you had the false diagnosis of commercial use? (When I got it, I looked into the pricing: it's such a good utility that I would have considered it. But it's so high it really is only for the professional user - especially as it's monthly rather than a one-off.) Teamviewer screwed up, a bug in an update that erroneously mislabeled the use.Â* I think this was exacerbated if you chose the combo private/commercial option when you installed it.Â* All I had to do was send an email to a specific email address, and my stuff was reset. [] Â* Most of those still don't seem to have got to grips with the advantages of flat screen; they have a space into which the monitor is placed, still needing a stand and space all around, as if it was still a CRT monitor with bulk. None of them seem to have it attached to the back wall, let alone used lateral thinking and attached it as hinged _over_ some of the compartments thus allowing a bigger screen. The newest, and biggest, cabinet is now 18 years old.Â* The other, at least 10 years older. Ah, so designed in the CRT era; fair enough. I assumed that the ones (computer desks) on the page you gave me a link to were mostly new ones, and I was surprised they all still showed the monitor as standing in one of the boxes, rather than fixed thus wasting less space. The older one, definitely.Â* Smaller widescreens may have been coming in with the newer one, but I simply don't remember. I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here is a very useful utility to change individual font sizes. https://www.wintools.info/index.php/...m-font-changer BTW, my Windows 10 shows 100% 125% 150% 175%. Rene |
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A screen question.
On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here is a very useful utility to change individual font sizes. Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer? I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does nothing for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance. I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different fonts, the design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you populate. Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by simply lowering the screen resolution. But as I mentioned, you do need a larger monitor, unless you already own one. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.5 Firefox 67.0.4 Thunderbird 60.7 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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A screen question.
On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here is a very useful utility to change individual font sizes. Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer? I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does nothing for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance. I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different fonts, the design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you populate. Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by simply lowering the screen resolution.Â* But as I mentioned, you do need a larger monitor, unless you already own one. Yes, and yes it has some drawbacks and is only helpful for certain things. I had a 23" IPS monitor but due to my very poor eyesight I have now switched to a 27" Asus IPS which helps a lot I suffer from Albinism, astigmatism and Nystagmus Which gives me about 20/240 with my glasses on I don't know what it is without glasses. I look at my monitor from a distance of about 6 inches so it involves a lot of head swiveling, but I manage. Rene |
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A screen question.
On 9/11/19 9:23 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote: On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here is a very useful utility to change individual font sizes. Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer? I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does nothing for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance. I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different fonts, the design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you populate. Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by simply lowering the screen resolution.Â* But as I mentioned, you do need a larger monitor, unless you already own one. Yes, and yes it has some drawbacks and is only helpful for certain things. I had a 23" IPS monitor but due to my very poor eyesight I have now switched to a 27" Asus IPS which helps a lot I suffer from Albinism, astigmatism and Nystagmus Which gives me about 20/240 with my glasses on I don't know what it is without glasses. I look at my monitor from a distance of about 6 inches so it involves a lot of head swiveling, but I manage. Could I ask you for a favor? Would you set your screen resolution to the next lower resolution that is listed in your screen display options, and let me know if it is any help? My monitors are 24", and switching from 1920X1200 to 1600X1000 works well for me, and now I just never notice I'm not at optimum resolution. "Optimum" is a crappy word to be used the way MS and the manufacturers use it. "Optimum" is what works best for the user. -- Ken MacOS 10.14.5 Firefox 67.0.4 Thunderbird 60.7 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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A screen question.
On 2019-09-11 10:55 a.m., Ken Springer wrote:
On 9/11/19 9:23 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote: On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here is a very useful utility to change individual font sizes. Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer? I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does nothing for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance. I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different fonts, the design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you populate. Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by simply lowering the screen resolution.Â* But as I mentioned, you do need a larger monitor, unless you already own one. Yes, and yes it has some drawbacks and is only helpful for certain things. I had a 23" IPS monitor but due to my very poor eyesight I have now switched to a 27" Asus IPS which helps a lot I suffer from Albinism, astigmatism and Nystagmus Which gives me about 20/240 with my glasses on I don't know what it is without glasses. I look at my monitor from a distance of about 6 inches so it involves a lot of head swiveling, but I manage. Could I ask you for a favor? Would you set your screen resolution to the next lower resolution that is listed in your screen display options, and let me know if it is any help? My monitors are 24", and switching from 1920X1200 to 1600X1000 works well for me, and now I just never notice I'm not at optimum resolution. "Optimum" is a crappy word to be used the way MS and the manufacturers use it.Â* "Optimum" is what works best for the user. 1680x1050 is my next lower one, It does make things larger but being 16:10 it leaves a 1 inch black border on each side. I get best results using 125% or 150% at 1920x1080. Rene |
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A screen question.
On 9/11/19 10:19 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 10:55 a.m., Ken Springer wrote: On 9/11/19 9:23 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote: On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here is a very useful utility to change individual font sizes. Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer? I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does nothing for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance. I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different fonts, the design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you populate. Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by simply lowering the screen resolution.Â* But as I mentioned, you do need a larger monitor, unless you already own one. Yes, and yes it has some drawbacks and is only helpful for certain things. I had a 23" IPS monitor but due to my very poor eyesight I have now switched to a 27" Asus IPS which helps a lot I suffer from Albinism, astigmatism and Nystagmus Which gives me about 20/240 with my glasses on I don't know what it is without glasses. I look at my monitor from a distance of about 6 inches so it involves a lot of head swiveling, but I manage. Could I ask you for a favor? Would you set your screen resolution to the next lower resolution that is listed in your screen display options, and let me know if it is any help? My monitors are 24", and switching from 1920X1200 to 1600X1000 works well for me, and now I just never notice I'm not at optimum resolution. "Optimum" is a crappy word to be used the way MS and the manufacturers use it.Â* "Optimum" is what works best for the user. 1680x1050 is my next lower one, It does make things larger but being 16:10 it leaves a 1 inch black border on each side. I get best results using 125% or 150% at 1920x1080. Hmmmmmm........ OK, let's start over, I need a bit of info... Is your monitor's native resolution 1920X1200 or 1920X1080? -- Ken MacOS 10.14.5 Firefox 67.0.4 Thunderbird 60.7 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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A screen question.
On 2019-09-11 11:23 a.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-09-11 10:09 a.m., Ken Springer wrote: On 9/11/19 8:49 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote: I don't know if I have mentioned this in this thread, but here is a very useful utility to change individual font sizes. Are you referring to Advanced System Font Size Changer? I have that installed on my W10 system, but of course, does nothing for text you've entered into a word processor, for instance. I've noticed that sometimes, when you switch to different fonts, the design of the font will no longer fit into a field that you populate. Both of these problems are solved with out any tweaking by simply lowering the screen resolution.Â* But as I mentioned, you do need a larger monitor, unless you already own one. Yes, and yes it has some drawbacks and is only helpful for certain things. I had a 23" IPS monitor but due to my very poor eyesight I have now switched to a 27" Asus IPS which helps a lot I suffer from Albinism, astigmatism and Nystagmus Which gives me about 20/240 with my glasses on I don't know what it is without glasses. I look at my monitor from a distance of about 6 inches so it involves a lot of head swiveling, but I manage. My condolences, that can't be the most fun reading experience. Nice to see that you're managing through it. |
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