Can you use a Win98 PC with dedicated printer attached as a print server for Vista laptop ?

Okay, it is not a memory issue. Thank you for your response. I will have to
ponder over this. Hopefully, someone else will have some better ideas. I
have downgraded from 2 gigabytes of memory to a 512 megabyte stick of ram in
order to primary use 98 Second Edition again because of all the DNS Pollution
that Dan K. discovered that affects NT products -- eg. 2000, XP, Server, etc.

Dan W.

"Warren" wrote:

256 MB

"Dan" wrote in message
...
How much memory do you have installed in your Windows 98 Second Edition
computer?

What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in both 98
Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed open if
anyone has any better suggestions.

"Warren" wrote:

Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low colour,
with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with it.

As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons return to
high colour.


"Warren" wrote in message
...
No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the
solution
alright, thank you very much ))

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look ))

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer using
Vista
you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that port.
See,
for instance:

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...2680&SiteID=17
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Warren" wrote in message
...
Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista could
see
it
because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate with
it.

I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm
unclear
how
to
connect it to the Win98 print server.


"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the exact
steps.
Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and when I
tried
to
install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions I
recall,
it
turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer *except*
692C.
IOW I'm SOL.

But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I
said,
you
install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then run
some
command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can create
a
new
port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no
literature
I
have come across seems to be very clear, either.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Warren" wrote in message
...
I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop
sees
printer
on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare this
legacy
print
server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought
someone
must
have experience in trying this.

Video card is Radeon 9200, has drivers for Win98SE.


"Dan" wrote in message
...
What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in both
98
Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed open
if
anyone has any better suggestions.

"Warren" wrote:

Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low
colour,
with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with it.


As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons return
to
high colour.


"Warren" wrote in message
...
No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the
solution
alright, thank you very much ))

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look ))

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer
using
Vista
you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that
port.
See,
for instance:


http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...2680&SiteID=17
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Warren" wrote in message
...
Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista
could
see
it
because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate
with
it.

I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm
unclear
how
to
connect it to the Win98 print server.


"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the
exact
steps.
Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and
when I
tried
to
install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions
I
recall,
it
turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer
*except*
692C.
IOW I'm SOL.

But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I
said,
you
install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then
run
some
command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can
create
a
new
port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no
literature
I
have come across seems to be very clear, either.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Warren" wrote in message
...
I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop
sees
printer
on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare
this
legacy
print
server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought
someone
must
have experience in trying this.

Ah, that may indeed be your problem. Ati currently only has the latest
driver updates for Ati Radeon 9500 and above. Since Windows Vista is so new
and to take full advantage of Windows Vista you will need an Ati Radeon 9500
or greater. I currently have in my machine a Radeon 9800 XT that I got on
Ebay and it works like a champ in Windows 98 Second Edition and in Windows XP
Professional Service Pack 3. It also fully supports Windows Vista. My
Windows Vista computer is a Toshiba Laptop.

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/9...naiw-98me.html

this is copied and copied since this site is a secure website so you will
just have to browse to the information via the main ati site:

AMD Desktop Product Family Support

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 4800 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1300 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 3800 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1050 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 3600 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X850 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 3400 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X800 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 2900 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X700 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 2600 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X600 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ HD 2400 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X550 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1950 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ X300 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1900 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ 9800 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1800 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ 9700 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1650 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ 9600 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1600 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ 9550 series

ATI Radeonâ„¢ X1550 series
ATI Radeonâ„¢ 9500 series

As you can see Windows Vista cannot fully support an Ati Radeon card that is
less than the ATI Radeon 9500 series and that is why you are having color
issues. I don't know if it is in your budget but if it is then I would
update to an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card and then you just use the
Windows ME driver for Windows 98 Second Edition and it works great and is
superior of course to the older Ati Radeon 9200. I had to upgrade from an
ATI Radeon 9000 graphics board to continue to get the latest video drivers to
support my computer gaming habbit.

"Warren" wrote:

Video card is Radeon 9200, has drivers for Win98SE.


"Dan" wrote in message
...
What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in both
98
Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed open
if
anyone has any better suggestions.

"Warren" wrote:

Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low
colour,
with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with it.


As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons return
to
high colour.


"Warren" wrote in message
...
No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the
solution
alright, thank you very much ))

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look ))

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer
using
Vista
you need to create a local port and connect the printer to that
port.
See,
for instance:


http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...2680&SiteID=17
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Warren" wrote in message
...
Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista
could
see
it
because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't communicate
with
it.

I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but I'm
unclear
how
to
connect it to the Win98 print server.


"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the
exact
steps.
Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer, and
when I
tried
to
install it manually as a local printer, as per the instructions
I
recall,
it
turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer
*except*
692C.
IOW I'm SOL.

But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then, as I
said,
you
install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and then
run
some
command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you can
create
a
new
port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no
literature
I
have come across seems to be very clear, either.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Warren" wrote in message
...
I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista laptop
sees
printer
on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare
this
legacy
print
server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but thought
someone
must
have experience in trying this.

You've confused me Dan,

I'm looking at a monitor which is attached to my Win98SE machine, and the
monitor is driven by the 9200 Radeon. Why are you bringing Vista into the
picture, it runs on a separate laptop ?

"Dan" wrote in message
news
Ah, that may indeed be your problem. Ati currently only has the latest
driver updates for Ati Radeon 9500 and above. Since Windows Vista is so
new
and to take full advantage of Windows Vista you will need an Ati Radeon
9500
or greater. I currently have in my machine a Radeon 9800 XT that I got on
Ebay and it works like a champ in Windows 98 Second Edition and in Windows
XP
Professional Service Pack 3. It also fully supports Windows Vista. My
Windows Vista computer is a Toshiba Laptop.

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/9...naiw-98me.html

this is copied and copied since this site is a secure website so you will
just have to browse to the information via the main ati site:

AMD Desktop Product Family Support

ATI RadeonT HD 4800 series
ATI RadeonT X1300 series

ATI RadeonT HD 3800 series
ATI RadeonT X1050 series

ATI RadeonT HD 3600 series
ATI RadeonT X850 series

ATI RadeonT HD 3400 series
ATI RadeonT X800 series

ATI RadeonT HD 2900 series
ATI RadeonT X700 series

ATI RadeonT HD 2600 series
ATI RadeonT X600 series

ATI RadeonT HD 2400 series
ATI RadeonT X550 series

ATI RadeonT X1950 series
ATI RadeonT X300 series

ATI RadeonT X1900 series
ATI RadeonT 9800 series

ATI RadeonT X1800 series
ATI RadeonT 9700 series

ATI RadeonT X1650 series
ATI RadeonT 9600 series

ATI RadeonT X1600 series
ATI RadeonT 9550 series

ATI RadeonT X1550 series
ATI RadeonT 9500 series

As you can see Windows Vista cannot fully support an Ati Radeon card that
is
less than the ATI Radeon 9500 series and that is why you are having color
issues. I don't know if it is in your budget but if it is then I would
update to an ATI Radeon 9800 XT graphics card and then you just use the
Windows ME driver for Windows 98 Second Edition and it works great and is
superior of course to the older Ati Radeon 9200. I had to upgrade from an
ATI Radeon 9000 graphics board to continue to get the latest video drivers
to
support my computer gaming habbit.

"Warren" wrote:

Video card is Radeon 9200, has drivers for Win98SE.


"Dan" wrote in message
...
What video card do you have and is the video card supported fully in
both
98
Second Edition and Vista? I am pulling straws here and so am indeed
open
if
anyone has any better suggestions.

"Warren" wrote:

Now for some reason my Win98SE computer will only show icons in low
colour,
with Printer and HDD sharing activated. Strange but I can live with
it.


As soon as I deactivate sharing on both HDD and Printer the icons
return
to
high colour.


"Warren" wrote in message
...
No wonder so many people don't like Vista, but this looks like the
solution
alright, thank you very much ))

"Warren" wrote in message
...
Thanks Jeff, I'll take a look ))

"Jeff Richards" wrote in message
...
This is actually a Vista issue. To connect a network printer
using
Vista
you need to create a local port and connect the printer to
that
port.
See,
for instance:



http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/...2680&SiteID=17
--
Jeff Richards
MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)
"Warren" wrote in message
...
Interesting, I tried installing as a network printer, Vista
could
see
it
because I enabled printer sharing, but it couldn't
communicate
with
it.

I thought of a local driver, which I think Vista has, but
I'm
unclear
how
to
connect it to the Win98 print server.


"Gary S. Terhune" none wrote in message
...
Yeah, I just had experience with this, but can't recall the
exact
steps.
Sorry. Thing is, you need Vista drivers for the printer,
and
when I
tried
to
install it manually as a local printer, as per the
instructions
I
recall,
it
turns out Vista comes preloaded with every DeskJet printer
*except*
692C.
IOW I'm SOL.

But you might be luckier and find the right driver. Then,
as I
said,
you
install in as a local printer (on some free LPT port) and
then
run
some
command to bind it to the remote printer. Others say you
can
create
a
new
port while installing, but I'm not clear on that one and no
literature
I
have come across seems to be very clear, either.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS-MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com

"Warren" wrote in message
...
I can set up my printer to share over network and Vista
laptop
sees
printer
on network but Vista won't connect. Do I have to declare
this
legacy
print
server a Win 98SE machine somehow ?

Probably more a Vista question and I have posted but
thought
someone
must
have experience in trying this.

Sorry, for the confusion. The deal is that you need an Ati Radeon 9500 or
greater for the latest drivers and that is why your color is not showing up
prefectly because of what you are trying to do. Ati will only support Radeon
9500 or greater with drivers and since you are hooking 98 SE up to a Vista
laptop which requires a Radeon 9500 or greater then it makes perfect sense
why you cannot view the full color while connecting 98 SE with the Vista
computer. Sorry, I cannot make myself any clearer than that and if you still
don't get it then hopefully someone can explain my words more clearly.