Talking about Norton.....

Arvind,

You won't see the contents of the _RESTORE folder or some other folders
when using Explorer unless you set it to see these files and folders. To
do this, when using Explorer, go to Tools | Folder Options |
View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and uncheck "Hide protected
operating system files" and all will be revealed.

HTH
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



arvind wrote:

i've ME with NAV03, and i agree with mike in that i can't
restore my puter to a point before the last liveupdate
session with new signature files, without the NAV refusing
to boot the puter. so i make it a point to create a
restore point after every LU session. no other problems
otherwise. by the way, i don't seem to have any TEMP
folder in C:\_RESTORE. the only ones are- VxDMoN.cfg,
DISKCFG, SRDISKID, and VxDMoN. do i've to do something
about this or let it be. tia. arvind

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:29:24 -0400, Mike M wrote:
=A0Ron Martell =A0wrote:

=A0NAV2002 and NAV2003 are okay with WindowsMe it appears, but
=A0certainly not NAV2004. =A0And it appears that NAV2005 is also not
=A0usable with WindowsMe.


=A0Ron,

=A0They may "work" but can they survive the use of system restore and
=A0what about the damage that can be caused by LiveUpdate?

well darnit.
I'm running NAV 2004 on WinMe, and don't seem to be having tooooo many=
problems. Something goes whacky once in awhile, and NAV is usually the=
first one I suspect as the perp...but I've used Norton's for so many years=
that it's hard to trust another program. Any suggestions for a really good=
av program that works smoothly with WinMe?...cuz I'm thinking maybe I=
should stop holding out for NAV to fix the kinks with WinMe. :\

thanks mike, thus i could 'see' the TEMP folder in
c:\_RESTORE. it has 25.2 mb of files, some hidden. should
i flush all these. tia. arvind
-----Original Message-----
Arvind,

You won't see the contents of the _RESTORE folder or some
other folders
when using Explorer unless you set it to see these files
and folders. To
do this, when using Explorer, go to Tools | Folder
Options |
View and check "Show hidden files and folders" and
uncheck "Hide protected
operating system files" and all will be revealed.

HTH
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



arvind wrote:

i've ME with NAV03, and i agree with mike in that i
can't
restore my puter to a point before the last liveupdate
session with new signature files, without the NAV
refusing
to boot the puter. so i make it a point to create a
restore point after every LU session. no other problems
otherwise. by the way, i don't seem to have any TEMP
folder in C:\_RESTORE. the only ones are- VxDMoN.cfg,
DISKCFG, SRDISKID, and VxDMoN. do i've to do something
about this or let it be. tia. arvind

.

There's nothing abnormal in having 25MB of files in the C_\RESTORE\TEMP
folder unless it amounts to 10K-15K or more files in which case the
problem could be that the state manager has stopped analysing these files
and discarding those not required for a checkpoint and cabbing to FS*.CAB
files in the C:\_RESTORE\ARCHIVE folder those that are needed for a
checkpoint.

Don't try and delete files from the C:\_RESTORE folder as doing so will
break the integrity of the store. Instead cycle system restore off and
then back on again as follows:
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and check "Disable
System Restore", Apply and IMMEDIATELY reboot. This will flush you
restore folder and erase all checkpoints, then,
System | Performance | File System | Troubleshooting and uncheck "Disable
System Restore", Apply and again IMMEDIATELY reboot.
This should now automatically create a new checkpoint immediately
following the restart. Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore
folder using the slider found at System | Performance | File System | Hard
Disk. A figure of 200MB is normally more than adequate for day to day
use allowing perhaps a week of checkpoints to be available although
increasing this to perhaps 400MB for a few days during periods of large
installs such Microsoft Office is advisable.

If this doesn't clear down the _restore archive (and it doesn't always
when users have experienced similar problems) the next suggestion is to
boot to DOS using a floppy and delete the entire _RESTORE folder structure
from the
a) Boot to DOS using a floppy. Do NOT choose "Minimal Boot" from the menu
when booting from a floppy but rather choose "Start computer with (or
without) CD-ROM support" otherwise the ATTRIB command will not be
available.
b) At the DOS A:\ prompt, type:

ATTRIB -H -S -R C:\_RESTORE
REN C:\_RESTORE OLDREST

c) Remove the floppy
d) Reboot your PC
e) Delete the folder C:\OLDREST
f) Check that an automatic system restore checkpoint was created.
g) Finally adjust the space allocated to the restore folder:

Finally you may want to give system restore the once over by carrying out
the following quick test.
a) Create a shortcut on your desktop to a file.
b) Create a manual checkpoint
c) Delete the shortcut
d) Restore you PC to the checkpoint you created.
Was the shortcut restored? Did you see any error messages?
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



arvind wrote:

thanks mike, thus i could 'see' the TEMP folder in
c:\_RESTORE. it has 25.2 mb of files, some hidden. should
i flush all these. tia. arvind

Recommend eTrust for your ME system ... and, it's free for 1 year
from this link : http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/


MowGreen [MVP]
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fuzzeroo wrote:

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:29:24 -0400, Mike M wrote:

Ron Martell wrote:


NAV2002 and NAV2003 are okay with WindowsMe it appears, but
certainly not NAV2004. And it appears that NAV2005 is also not
usable with WindowsMe.


Ron,

They may "work" but can they survive the use of system restore and
what about the damage that can be caused by LiveUpdate?


well darnit.
I'm running NAV 2004 on WinMe, and don't seem to be having tooooo many problems. Something goes whacky once in awhile, and NAV is usually the first one I suspect as the perp...but I've used Norton's for so many years that it's hard to trust another program. Any suggestions for a really good av program that works smoothly with WinMe?...cuz I'm thinking maybe I should stop holding out for NAV to fix the kinks with WinMe. :\

Ditto!! Been using it for eons. Back when it was the free InoculateIT PE.

I owe you an email, Mowgen!!

Heather

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote in message
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Recommend eTrust for your ME system ... and, it's free for 1 year
from this link : http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/


MowGreen [MVP]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
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fuzzeroo wrote:

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:29:24 -0400, Mike M wrote:

Ron Martell wrote:


NAV2002 and NAV2003 are okay with WindowsMe it appears, but
certainly not NAV2004. And it appears that NAV2005 is also not
usable with WindowsMe.


Ron,

They may "work" but can they survive the use of system restore and
what about the damage that can be caused by LiveUpdate?


well darnit.
I'm running NAV 2004 on WinMe, and don't seem to be having tooooo many
problems. Something goes whacky once in awhile, and NAV is usually the
first one I suspect as the perp...but I've used Norton's for so many years
that it's hard to trust another program. Any suggestions for a really good
av program that works smoothly with WinMe?...cuz I'm thinking maybe I should
stop holding out for NAV to fix the kinks with WinMe. :\

Bring me your daughter, woman

MG

Heather wrote:

Ditto!! Been using it for eons. Back when it was the free InoculateIT PE.

I owe you an email, Mowgen!!

Heather

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote in message
...

Recommend eTrust for your ME system ... and, it's free for 1 year
from this link : http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/


MowGreen [MVP]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
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fuzzeroo wrote:


On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:29:24 -0400, Mike M wrote:


Ron Martell wrote:



NAV2002 and NAV2003 are okay with WindowsMe it appears, but
certainly not NAV2004. And it appears that NAV2005 is also not
usable with WindowsMe.


Ron,

They may "work" but can they survive the use of system restore and
what about the damage that can be caused by LiveUpdate?


well darnit.
I'm running NAV 2004 on WinMe, and don't seem to be having tooooo many

problems. Something goes whacky once in awhile, and NAV is usually the
first one I suspect as the perp...but I've used Norton's for so many years
that it's hard to trust another program. Any suggestions for a really good
av program that works smoothly with WinMe?...cuz I'm thinking maybe I should
stop holding out for NAV to fix the kinks with WinMe. :\

I thought I told you lot not to get up to any mischief while I was missing
g
Joan

MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
Bring me your daughter, woman

MG

Thanks for the info! I'll check it out.

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:37:25 -0400, MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
=A0Recommend eTrust for your ME system ... and, it's free for 1 year
=A0from this link : http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/


=A0MowGreen =A0[MVP]
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=A0fuzzeroo wrote:

=A0On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:29:24 -0400, Mike M wrote:

=A0Ron Martell =A0wrote:


=A0NAV2002 and NAV2003 are okay with WindowsMe it appears, but
=A0certainly not NAV2004. =A0And it appears that NAV2005 is also
=A0not usable with WindowsMe.


=A0Ron,

=A0They may "work" but can they survive the use of system restore
=A0and what about the damage that can be caused by LiveUpdate?


=A0well darnit.
=A0I'm running NAV 2004 on WinMe, and don't seem to be having tooooo
=A0many problems. =A0Something goes whacky once in awhile, and NAV is
=A0usually the first one I suspect as the perp...but I've used
=A0Norton's for so many years that it's hard to trust another
=A0program. Any suggestions for a really good av program that works
=A0smoothly with WinMe?...cuz I'm thinking maybe I should stop
=A0holding out for NAV to fix the kinks with WinMe. :\

You will have to.....

a) write her.....and
b) get up to Vancouver, grin.

Mom

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Bring me your daughter, woman

MG

Heather wrote:

Ditto!! Been using it for eons. Back when it was the free InoculateIT
PE.

I owe you an email, Mowgen!!

Heather

"MowGreen [MVP]" wrote in message
...

Recommend eTrust for your ME system ... and, it's free for 1 year
from this link : http://www.my-etrust.com/microsoft/


MowGreen [MVP]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============

fuzzeroo wrote:


On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 19:29:24 -0400, Mike M wrote:


Ron Martell wrote:



NAV2002 and NAV2003 are okay with WindowsMe it appears, but
certainly not NAV2004. And it appears that NAV2005 is also not
usable with WindowsMe.


Ron,

They may "work" but can they survive the use of system restore and
what about the damage that can be caused by LiveUpdate?


well darnit.
I'm running NAV 2004 on WinMe, and don't seem to be having tooooo many

problems. Something goes whacky once in awhile, and NAV is usually the
first one I suspect as the perp...but I've used Norton's for so many
years
that it's hard to trust another program. Any suggestions for a really
good
av program that works smoothly with WinMe?...cuz I'm thinking maybe I
should
stop holding out for NAV to fix the kinks with WinMe. :\