can i use files from XP on Win 98?

i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who uses
windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98
computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message

D:\ is not accessible.
The device is not ready.

is this an XP vs 98 incompatability?

she requires the files to install her printer.

Cheers!

Whatever was written to CD with the native XP writing utility is in UDF
format by a crippled Roxio writing utility.

The 98 PC needs a corresponding reader of that form of UDF.

Commercial software CDs are written in ISO 9660 format. Commonly available
in 3rd party burning software. All versions of windows can read this
natively, if the CD reading device is working correctly.

"D Angelo" wrote in message
...
i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who
uses
windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98
computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message

D:\ is not accessible.
The device is not ready.

is this an XP vs 98 incompatability?

she requires the files to install her printer.

Cheers!

To add:

Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner)
-- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can
be used to read such CDs:
http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...dfreader_7.exe

BTW, that is not obligatory, that the files from Win2000/XP, even with
the same names, will work in Win98: they can expect the other version of
OS. Some of them will -- but not all.

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:03:08 -0500, "Lil' Dave"
wrote:

Whatever was written to CD with the native XP writing utility is in UDF
format by a crippled Roxio writing utility.

The 98 PC needs a corresponding reader of that form of UDF.

Commercial software CDs are written in ISO 9660 format. Commonly available
in 3rd party burning software. All versions of windows can read this
natively, if the CD reading device is working correctly.

"D Angelo" wrote in message
...
i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who
uses
windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98
computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message

D:\ is not accessible.
The device is not ready.

is this an XP vs 98 incompatability?

she requires the files to install her printer.

Cheers!

Have noted that some people have trouble reading CDs written with INCD by
another PC. In some cases, its because they're using different versions of
that software betwixt different PCs. I always thought is was a difference
in UDF between the software writers for same. Apparently, this is not the
case even using the same makers software.

Right-clicking the burner drive letter in Winexplorer, selecting properties,
and the tab for burning, will show that Roxio is used in XP. Its not using
packet writing. It is using UDF format to write the files to the CD. XP
uses a staging area to cache files that can subsequently written to CD.

To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660
format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use.

"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
...
To add:

Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner)
-- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can
be used to read such CDs:

http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...dfreader_7.exe

BTW, that is not obligatory, that the files from Win2000/XP, even with
the same names, will work in Win98: they can expect the other version of
OS. Some of them will -- but not all.

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005 05:03:08 -0500, "Lil' Dave"
wrote:

Whatever was written to CD with the native XP writing utility is in UDF
format by a crippled Roxio writing utility.

The 98 PC needs a corresponding reader of that form of UDF.

Commercial software CDs are written in ISO 9660 format. Commonly
available
in 3rd party burning software. All versions of windows can read this
natively, if the CD reading device is working correctly.

"D Angelo" wrote in message
...
i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who
uses
windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows
98
computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message

D:\ is not accessible.
The device is not ready.

is this an XP vs 98 incompatability?

she requires the files to install her printer.

Cheers!

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave"
wrote:

...

To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660
format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its use.

Sure.

BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this
file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at
my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader
because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description
at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers
with no Roxio product installed... (

off topic
I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became
self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said:
"Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio".
And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that.
/off topic

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
.. .
To add:

Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner)
-- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x, can
be used to read such CDs:

http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...dfreader_7.exe
...

What software was used to write to the CD-RW?
If the Win98 computer does not have the ability to read a CD-RW (either because the
disc was written in UDF format, or because the CD drive on the Win98 machine cannot
read RW discs), burn a new disc using either the native WinXP CD burning utility
(which does not write in UDF format), or use a CD-mastering app if one is installed
(Record Now, Easy CD Creator, Nero Burning ROM).....and use a CD-R disc instead of a
CD-RW disc.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"D Angelo" wrote in message
...
i copied some files needed (from my windows XP laptop for a friend who uses
windows 98) onto a CD-RW cd. when i tried to use the cd in the windows 98
computer, the cd was not recognised and came up with an error message

D:\ is not accessible.
The device is not ready.

is this an XP vs 98 incompatability?

she requires the files to install her printer.

Cheers!

Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing
software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with
imapi.exe

Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless XP is
installed?

"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave"
wrote:

...

To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660
format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its
use.

Sure.

BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this
file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at
my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader
because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description
at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers
with no Roxio product installed... (

off topic
I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became
self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said:
"Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio".
And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that.
/off topic

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
.. .
To add:

Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner)
-- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x,
can
be used to read such CDs:


http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd
ateudfreader_7.exe
...

"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing
software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with
imapi.exe

Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless XP is
installed?

??
Any modern CD-ROM drive with any version of Windows should be able to read Joliet
discs. Joliet is an extension of the ISO 9660 standard, developed by Microsoft, to
allow CDs to be recorded using long filenames (it also allows for using the Unicode
character set). Joliet allows you to use filenames up to 64 characters in length,
including spaces. Usually the software used for burning also records the associated
DOS name for each file. Filenames longer than 30 characters are truncated and the
tilde (~) is added, followed by a number. Even MS-DOS should be able to read a
Joliet disc....the filenames will just be shown in DOS 8+3 format: FILENA~1.EXT
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave"
wrote:

...

To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO 9660
format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for its
use.

Sure.

BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this
file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install at
my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader
because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description
at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the computers
with no Roxio product installed... (

off topic
I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became
self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said:
"Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio".
And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that.
/off topic

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
.. .
To add:

Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP burner)
-- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for Win9x,
can
be used to read such CDs:


http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd
ateudfreader_7.exe
...

So non-XP PCs should be able to read a CD written in the native XP
environment with its CD writer?
"glee" wrote in message
...
"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing
software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with
imapi.exe

Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless
XP is
installed?

??
Any modern CD-ROM drive with any version of Windows should be able to read
Joliet
discs. Joliet is an extension of the ISO 9660 standard, developed by
Microsoft, to
allow CDs to be recorded using long filenames (it also allows for using
the Unicode
character set). Joliet allows you to use filenames up to 64 characters
in length,
including spaces. Usually the software used for burning also records the
associated
DOS name for each file. Filenames longer than 30 characters are truncated
and the
tilde (~) is added, followed by a number. Even MS-DOS should be able to
read a
Joliet disc....the filenames will just be shown in DOS 8+3 format:
FILENA~1.EXT
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave"

wrote:

...

To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO
9660
format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for
its
use.

Sure.

BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this
file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install
at
my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader
because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description
at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the
computers
with no Roxio product installed... (

off topic
I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became
self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said:
"Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio".
And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that.
/off topic

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
.. .
To add:

Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP
burner)
-- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for
Win9x,
can
be used to read such CDs:



http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd
ateudfreader_7.exe
...

I write CD's at work with both the native WinXP burning utility, and also with
Record Now, on the XP machines, and read them at home on all my computers running
Win98SE, FWIW. YMMV.
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
So non-XP PCs should be able to read a CD written in the native XP
environment with its CD writer?
"glee" wrote in message
...
"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
Made of an ass of myself again by jumping to conclusions. XP's writing
software writes the CD in redbook for audio, and joliet for data with
imapi.exe

Guess PCs can't read joliet, an extension of ISO 9660, natively unless
XP is
installed?

??
Any modern CD-ROM drive with any version of Windows should be able to read
Joliet
discs. Joliet is an extension of the ISO 9660 standard, developed by
Microsoft, to
allow CDs to be recorded using long filenames (it also allows for using
the Unicode
character set). Joliet allows you to use filenames up to 64 characters
in length,
including spaces. Usually the software used for burning also records the
associated
DOS name for each file. Filenames longer than 30 characters are truncated
and the
tilde (~) is added, followed by a number. Even MS-DOS should be able to
read a
Joliet disc....the filenames will just be shown in DOS 8+3 format:
FILENA~1.EXT
--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:13:31 -0500, "Lil' Dave"

wrote:

...

To avoid the hassle and confusion, I suggest writing files in ISO
9660
format to CD, if you know its going to another operating system for
its
use.

Sure.

BTW, as I saw only after had posted that message and downloaded this
file myself -- UDF-Reader from the link I gave didn't want to install
at
my computer with the wording something like: "Can't upgrade UDF Reader
because you have no Roxio programs installed" -- while the description
at their site says, that this file is intended for use at the
computers
with no Roxio product installed... (

off topic
I remember the first days of the Roxio site -- when Roxio became
self-dependent, but not an Adaptec subdivision. The first page said:
"Remember now and forever. We are not Adaptec. We are Roxio".
And -- yes, I do remember that still. And see that.
/off topic

--
Mikhail Zhilin
http://www.aha.ru/~mwz
Sorry, no technical support by e-mail.
Please reply to the newsgroups only.
======
"Mikhail Zhilin" wrote in message
.. .
To add:

Not sure UDF format is used (never worked with the native WinXP
burner)
-- but if so, the same c... software of Roxio, UDF Reader for
Win9x,
can
be used to read such CDs:



http://softwareupdates.roxio.com/gm/...il/drivers/upd
ateudfreader_7.exe
...