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Installing extra RAM
Hi All,
I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
Answered in win98.gen_discussion
-- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
Answered in win98.gen_discussion
-- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
I'm not sure what "Workarounds" you're talking about...since I only know of
one! That is to put an entry in the system.ini file under the vcache heading which should be MaxFileCache=512000 As far as I know, no other settings are required. Since I have two systems running Windows 98SE with more then 512MB in each, I know this to be true. As long as you don't ask Mr. Gates about memory requirements, you will most definately see an increase in system performance with more then 512MB....that is if you are working with files or applications which make use of it. That is to say that if all you're doing with your computer is surf the web and wordprocessing, then there is no need for more the 512MB of memory. HTH... "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
I'm not sure what "Workarounds" you're talking about...since I only know of
one! That is to put an entry in the system.ini file under the vcache heading which should be MaxFileCache=512000 As far as I know, no other settings are required. Since I have two systems running Windows 98SE with more then 512MB in each, I know this to be true. As long as you don't ask Mr. Gates about memory requirements, you will most definately see an increase in system performance with more then 512MB....that is if you are working with files or applications which make use of it. That is to say that if all you're doing with your computer is surf the web and wordprocessing, then there is no need for more the 512MB of memory. HTH... "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
Have a look he
http://snipurl.com/om0b Full Link: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...1d54aeaa0fffab -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "NG User" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what "Workarounds" you're talking about...since I only know of one! That is to put an entry in the system.ini file under the vcache heading which should be MaxFileCache=512000 As far as I know, no other settings are required. Since I have two systems running Windows 98SE with more then 512MB in each, I know this to be true. As long as you don't ask Mr. Gates about memory requirements, you will most definately see an increase in system performance with more then 512MB....that is if you are working with files or applications which make use of it. That is to say that if all you're doing with your computer is surf the web and wordprocessing, then there is no need for more the 512MB of memory. HTH... "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
Have a look he
http://snipurl.com/om0b Full Link: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...1d54aeaa0fffab -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "NG User" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what "Workarounds" you're talking about...since I only know of one! That is to put an entry in the system.ini file under the vcache heading which should be MaxFileCache=512000 As far as I know, no other settings are required. Since I have two systems running Windows 98SE with more then 512MB in each, I know this to be true. As long as you don't ask Mr. Gates about memory requirements, you will most definately see an increase in system performance with more then 512MB....that is if you are working with files or applications which make use of it. That is to say that if all you're doing with your computer is surf the web and wordprocessing, then there is no need for more the 512MB of memory. HTH... "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
Very good and accurate description of memory limitations and usage.
However, there is no explanation given for the relationship between FileCache and available memory. I've noticed that applications and large files open slightly faster the first time around and most definately faster the second and third time around with my system using 1GB of RAM versus my old setup of 512MB. Further more, neither setup causes Windows to use the Virtual SwapFile ( which is to date still at 0KB ). "glee" wrote in message ... Have a look he http://snipurl.com/om0b Full Link: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...1d54aeaa0fffab -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "NG User" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what "Workarounds" you're talking about...since I only know of one! That is to put an entry in the system.ini file under the vcache heading which should be MaxFileCache=512000 As far as I know, no other settings are required. Since I have two systems running Windows 98SE with more then 512MB in each, I know this to be true. As long as you don't ask Mr. Gates about memory requirements, you will most definately see an increase in system performance with more then 512MB....that is if you are working with files or applications which make use of it. That is to say that if all you're doing with your computer is surf the web and wordprocessing, then there is no need for more the 512MB of memory. HTH... "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
Very good and accurate description of memory limitations and usage.
However, there is no explanation given for the relationship between FileCache and available memory. I've noticed that applications and large files open slightly faster the first time around and most definately faster the second and third time around with my system using 1GB of RAM versus my old setup of 512MB. Further more, neither setup causes Windows to use the Virtual SwapFile ( which is to date still at 0KB ). "glee" wrote in message ... Have a look he http://snipurl.com/om0b Full Link: http://groups.google.com/group/micro...1d54aeaa0fffab -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Shell/User, A+ http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm "NG User" wrote in message ... I'm not sure what "Workarounds" you're talking about...since I only know of one! That is to put an entry in the system.ini file under the vcache heading which should be MaxFileCache=512000 As far as I know, no other settings are required. Since I have two systems running Windows 98SE with more then 512MB in each, I know this to be true. As long as you don't ask Mr. Gates about memory requirements, you will most definately see an increase in system performance with more then 512MB....that is if you are working with files or applications which make use of it. That is to say that if all you're doing with your computer is surf the web and wordprocessing, then there is no need for more the 512MB of memory. HTH... "Endulini" wrote in message ... Hi All, I'm looking to increase my memory and have come across the infamous error that means Windows 98SE throws a wobbly when more than 512MB is installed. I've read the work-arounds but can anyone explain, do you still get the benefit from having more than 512MB RAM? In my limited understand they seem to be fooling/forcing the PC to accept that it has no more than 512MB installed therefore is there any point in having more? Thanks. |
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Installing extra RAM
"NG User" wrote:
Very good and accurate description of memory limitations and usage. However, there is no explanation given for the relationship between FileCache and available memory. I've noticed that applications and large files open slightly faster the first time around and most definately faster the second and third time around with my system using 1GB of RAM versus my old setup of 512MB. Further more, neither setup causes Windows to use the Virtual SwapFile ( which is to date still at 0KB ). Windows will always attempt to find some use, anything that might possibly be of benefit, for every bit of the installed RAM. This includes maintaining a large disk cache of recently accessed files so that when (and it often is "when" and not "if") those files are needed again the contents are already in RAM and do not have to be reloaded from disk. The reason why it is necessary to limit the size of the disk cache to not more than 512 mb on systems with huge amounts of RAM is that Windows will otherwise allocate more than 512 mb of RAM for this if the RAM is available. However, under the segmented memory model used in Windows 95/98/Me the 4 gb total x86 32 bit address space is subdivided into 3 sections: 2 gb for application programs and user data files 1 gb for operating system files 1 gb for "system arena" including support function such as the AGP video arpeture and the disk cache. If more than 512 mb of this total 1 gb of address space is committed to disk cache then it is possible that other users of this address space will find that there are no available addresses within that range that are not already in use. Result = crash. Hope this is the explanation you were looking for. Good luck Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada -- Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006) On-Line Help Computer Service http://onlinehelp.bc.ca "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference has never been in bed with a mosquito." |
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