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It's time to Quit using Win98
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It's time to Quit using Win98
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:13:14 -0700, Bill in Co
wrote: dadiOH wrote: ...snip... Actually, there is. My PC has WinXP; it looks and behaves just like it did when it had Win98. The main difference is that it never crashes. +1 What?! My WinXP crashes more than the Win98. Oh, I guess a screen that bails out and asks if you want to send a message about some problem to MicroSoft is NOT a crash, just a nuisance. Plus, and this is VERY important to me. It does NOT act at all like the Win98. There is a LONG litany/list of differences that are irksome beyond belief. Start with SLOWER! ending with I had to transfer the Win98 versions of PAINT and Notepad to prevent some MS idiot's ideas of enhanced performance from dominating. I wish I could transfer Windows Explorer, too, but doubt that's even possible. [For example, trying to use it to perform a simple search and move. Open a folder and subfolder, find the file. Then open another folder and subfolder to locate the desired destination to put the file, only to find that WE in its stupid benevolence of assuming what I was doing has closed up the display of where the original file resides! ARRRRGGG! Win98 let's you put a little row of most used apps along the bottom. WinXP lets you 'stack' most used programs in a pop up menu display, but am I the only one to notice that the most used appears at the top! of that list, so you have to move mouse down, then ALL the way back up! idiots! Didn't anybody look at the amount of extra mouse motion required? Don't even get me started on 'stacking' open applications! Probably a way to stop that, but by now I've lost interest in 'playing with the tool' I just want to USE the tool - and WinXP thwarts that effort at every turn. I'm still reeling at trying to answer the question MS Word, "Do you want to revert to the original?" Who knows WHAT that means? Or, more importantly, what are the consequences of answering yes or no, and not provide any way to even back to how you got there so you don't have to be presented with the quetion! ....temporary end of rant. |
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It's time to Quit using Win98
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 02:43:12 -0000, 98 Guy com 98@guy. wrote:
Stanley Daniel de Liver wrote: [you even snipped you're own attribution here!] You don't start installing win-98 on a given machine until or unless you have tracked down and obtained all available drivers for the various hardware components (video, motherboard / chipset, southbridge, audio, network, wifi, etc). This will be tricky, I acknowledge, as the laptop was "designed for XP" but runs like a dog (512M memory, hence my w98 install attempt. ) [] What's wrong with you? [] What - the win-98 versions of freecell, hearts, minesweeper or solitaire are just so unique and compelling that they haven't been duplicated on win-XP? You have anger issues. It might be time to move on and rename yourself "XP Guy". -- It's a money /life balance. |
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It's time to Quit using Win98
RobertMacy wrote:
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:13:14 -0700, Bill in Co wrote: dadiOH wrote: ...snip... Actually, there is. My PC has WinXP; it looks and behaves just like it did when it had Win98. The main difference is that it never crashes. +1 What?! My WinXP crashes more than the Win98. Oh, I guess a screen that bails out and asks if you want to send a message about some problem to MicroSoft is NOT a crash, just a nuisance. Sorry, haven't seen many of those over here. :-) But when I was running W98 (but admitedly, I messed around with it a bit with various software tweaks), I had a fair number of blue screens. But not so much now on XP. Plus, and this is VERY important to me. It does NOT act at all like the Win98. There is a LONG litany/list of differences that are irksome beyond belief. Start with SLOWER! Well yeah. Every succeeding version is a bit more resource intensive. If you really want the fastest speed you could go back to Win 3.1 or DOS :-) ending with I had to transfer the Win98 versions of PAINT and Notepad to prevent some MS idiot's ideas of enchanced performance from dominating. They got migrated over when I used PC Mover to move most of the Win98 setup over to this computer. But I also use Paint Shop Pro, which beats Paint in spades. And there are tons of Notepad replacements if you're so inclined. I wish I could transfer Windows Explorer, too, but doubt that's even possible. [For example, trying to use it to perform a simple search and move. Open a folder and subfolder, find the file. Then open another folder and subfolder to locate the desired destination to put the file, only to find that WE in its stupid benevolence of assuming what I was doing has closed up the display of where the original file resides! ARRRRGGG! I don't use the built-in Windows File Search function. I use freebie Agent Ransack, and its big brother, FileLocator Pro. These are a LOT better. And again, there are lots of Windows Explorer replacements that are even better than the original. You know, stuff like XYplorer, or xplorer2, etc. But in reality, I use the standard Windows Explorer most of the time. Win98 let's you put a little row of most used apps along the bottom. WinXP lets you 'stack' most used programs in a pop up menu display, but am I the only one to notice that the most used appears at the top! of that list, so you have to move mouse down, then ALL the way back up! idiots! Didn't anybody look at the amount of extra mouse motion required? I'm using the Start Menu Classic View, which is like Win98, and I have it sorted alphabetically. For me, I don't care about "the most used apps". :-). Don't even get me started on 'stacking' open applications! Probably a way to stop that, but by now I've lost interest in 'playing with the tool' I just want to USE the tool - and WinXP thwarts that effort at every turn. I'm still reeling at trying to answer the question MS Word, "Do you want to revert to the original?" Who knows WHAT that means? It means do you want to fall back to the original unsaved version you opened, I expect. But that has nothing to do with the OS - that's the app itself. |
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It's time to Quit using Win98
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:55:03 +0100, Axel Berger
wrote: 98 Guy wrote: anyone asking if linux can run win-98 software is probably not ready for linux? That's simplistic. In my Win98 one of the most frequently used programs is still an Atari ST database run in an emulator -- try as I can I have still not managed to find an even half decent replacement. So if I were to got to Linux, one of the first requirements would be a reliable Atari emulator. There are better alternatives for most Windows programs in Linux, but not for everything. Niche programs for Linux would have to be written for a niche squared[1], i.e. probably too few users to be worth it. [1] Not always, nerds tend to cluster. One of my most used programs is a Dos based data base. This contains my entire life's worth of phone/address contacts. On top of that, I have all of my business contacts for my own (self employed) business. If that's not enough, I have contact lists for three different non-profit volunteer organizations, two for which I am a member, one that is now defunct, but still contains valuable lists of persons who like to volunteer for events. In the end, there are nearly 10,000 entries in this database. I began using it in the database around 1989, the software was created in 1987. This is not the old Dbase, but a highly advanced program for it's time, and was used for professional businesses. I was originally introduced to it by a friend who worked at a hospital, and that hospital used this software to do all their records. This friend was a volunteer for one of these non-profits, and he obtained a copy, and assigned me to maintain the volunteer list for that org., which was quite extensive. Eventually, I bought my own copy of it for personal use. I have used it since. It's still excellent, and still works well. I can boot directly to dos and that program if I wish and not have to wait for Windows to load, just to retrieve a phone number. The problem is that the data from this program can not be transferred to any other database, aside from retyping everything. I have never found any other database I liked as well, or works as easily. No matter what I do, I need some form of Dos. It will run on any version of dos from Dos3 and up. (Maybe earlier versions too, but I never tried it). Does Linux have any way to run Dos programs? I have my doubts. Of course I know a Macintosh wont either. But I can take any old computer, even a XT or 386 and run this dadtabase. The entire program can be run from one floppy if needed, althought due to the large amount of records I have, several floppies would be needed for the data. I used to carry around a floppy with that entire DB and could access my data on any dos (or early dos-based windows) computer. The bottom line is that this program can not be replaced. If I have to switch to some non-MS computer, all I can do is get some old laptop, install Dos, and use that exclusively for my database. |
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tangerine3 wrote:
One of my most used programs is a Dos based data base. [snip] The problem is that the data from this program can not be transferred to any other database, aside from retyping everything. I have never found any other database I liked as well, or works as easily. There are ways around almost any obstacle. What is the program called? Does Linux have any way to run Dos programs? Using emulation, yes. DOSBox: http://www.dosbox.com/ ....or DOSEMU: http://www.dosemu.org/ ....or any general-purpose PC emulator (with DOS installed in the emulated PC). There are several free ones -- VMware Player, QEMU, VirtualBox, etc. -- What did he really want us to do? Into what actions was he manipulating us? |
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It's time to Quit using Win98
Axel Berger wrote:
You should at least be able to "print" to the generic text-only printer. And you ought to, if only for backup. Axel |
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