MS Fresh Start program

Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated computer to be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it to Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to report these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is eligible and I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

The way you read it is correct as long as you are a qualifying educational institute.

--
Brian A.

Jack of all trades, Master of none.
One can never truly be a master as there is always more to learn.


"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated computer to be
eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it to Microsoft.
Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to report these to Microsoft. Any
donated computer with a COA sticker is eligible and I am not required to report these
to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

You have it right.. The deal is that P2 and older do not have any built-in
method for verifying that they were originally sold with Windows. Newer OEM
systems do. Thus, regardless of the actual physical media used to reinstall
or update to Windows 98SE or Windows 2000, those machines are considered
validly licensed where all other conditions are met concerning valid
participation in the program--eligible recipients, eligible donations, etc.
Your only problem might be actually finding a copy of the media, but then
other methods of obtaining replacement media already exist.

You might want to read the FAQs for more details on the program, if you
haven't already. Things like the assumption the donated machines are OEM,
and not custom-built, for instance.

If you're still unclear, why not just contact the program' customer service?
http://www.microsoft.com/Education/F...Code=FSContact

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated computer to
be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it to
Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to report
these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is eligible and
I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

This is about the program so I thought it would be okay to add this
question. Does the following mean that Microsoft still has copies of
Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 and if so why do they not release them for
sale for classic (meaning old :) systems that cannot run XP? Any ideas,
Gary or anyone else?
Q. How much does the school pay for proof of a Windows operating system?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
A. Nothing. This program accepts that most donated personal computers
originally had an OEM Windows license. It provides appropriate documentation
and media to replace the originals that are now missing. Microsoft will
provide a letter to the school that proves licensing for the Windows
operating systems and will send free of charge one Windows 98 Second Edition
CD and one Windows 2000 Professional CD to help schools reinstall the
software.

It also seems to me to show proof that 98SE is far from dead. HG : LOL
Yes, I know about the extended deadline to 30 June 2006 for 98, 98SE and ME
and that critical updates will continue until then. Thanks again to
Microsoft for this and the free security cd.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You have it right.. The deal is that P2 and older do not have any built-in
method for verifying that they were originally sold with Windows. Newer
OEM
systems do. Thus, regardless of the actual physical media used to
reinstall
or update to Windows 98SE or Windows 2000, those machines are considered
validly licensed where all other conditions are met concerning valid
participation in the program--eligible recipients, eligible donations,
etc.
Your only problem might be actually finding a copy of the media, but then
other methods of obtaining replacement media already exist.

You might want to read the FAQs for more details on the program, if you
haven't already. Things like the assumption the donated machines are OEM,

and not custom-built, for instance.

If you're still unclear, why not just contact the program' customer
service?

http://www.microsoft.com/Education/F...ageCode=FSCont
act

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated computer to
be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it to
Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to report
these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is eligible
and
I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

They can *replace* installation media for certain existing licenses. For
various reasons, primarily legal and contractual, they are forbidden to
directly sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. (OEM CDs, like those you can
get from eBay, for instance, are already "sold" including license.)

Windows 2000 can still be purchased in all of its version, directly from
Microsoft.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
news:s8pyc.38284$My6.24361@fed1read05...
This is about the program so I thought it would be okay to add this
question. Does the following mean that Microsoft still has copies of
Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 and if so why do they not release them for
sale for classic (meaning old :) systems that cannot run XP? Any ideas,
Gary or anyone else?
Q. How much does the school pay for proof of a Windows operating system?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
----
A. Nothing. This program accepts that most donated personal computers
originally had an OEM Windows license. It provides appropriate
documentation
and media to replace the originals that are now missing. Microsoft will
provide a letter to the school that proves licensing for the Windows
operating systems and will send free of charge one Windows 98 Second
Edition
CD and one Windows 2000 Professional CD to help schools reinstall the
software.

It also seems to me to show proof that 98SE is far from dead. HG :
LOL
Yes, I know about the extended deadline to 30 June 2006 for 98, 98SE and
ME
and that critical updates will continue until then. Thanks again to
Microsoft for this and the free security cd.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You have it right.. The deal is that P2 and older do not have any
built-in
method for verifying that they were originally sold with Windows. Newer
OEM
systems do. Thus, regardless of the actual physical media used to
reinstall
or update to Windows 98SE or Windows 2000, those machines are considered
validly licensed where all other conditions are met concerning valid
participation in the program--eligible recipients, eligible donations,
etc.
Your only problem might be actually finding a copy of the media, but
then
other methods of obtaining replacement media already exist.

You might want to read the FAQs for more details on the program, if you
haven't already. Things like the assumption the donated machines are
OEM,

and not custom-built, for instance.

If you're still unclear, why not just contact the program' customer
service?


http://www.microsoft.com/Education/F...ageCode=FSCont
act

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated computer
to
be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it to
Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to report
these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is eligible
and
I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

Thanks again, Gary.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
They can *replace* installation media for certain existing licenses. For
various reasons, primarily legal and contractual, they are forbidden to
directly sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. (OEM CDs, like those you can
get from eBay, for instance, are already "sold" including license.)

Windows 2000 can still be purchased in all of its version, directly from
Microsoft.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
news:s8pyc.38284$My6.24361@fed1read05...
This is about the program so I thought it would be okay to add this
question. Does the following mean that Microsoft still has copies of
Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 and if so why do they not release them for
sale for classic (meaning old :) systems that cannot run XP? Any
ideas,
Gary or anyone else?
Q. How much does the school pay for proof of a Windows operating system?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
----
A. Nothing. This program accepts that most donated personal computers
originally had an OEM Windows license. It provides appropriate
documentation
and media to replace the originals that are now missing. Microsoft will
provide a letter to the school that proves licensing for the Windows
operating systems and will send free of charge one Windows 98 Second
Edition
CD and one Windows 2000 Professional CD to help schools reinstall the
software.

It also seems to me to show proof that 98SE is far from dead. HG :
LOL
Yes, I know about the extended deadline to 30 June 2006 for 98, 98SE and
ME
and that critical updates will continue until then. Thanks again to
Microsoft for this and the free security cd.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You have it right.. The deal is that P2 and older do not have any
built-in
method for verifying that they were originally sold with Windows.
Newer
OEM
systems do. Thus, regardless of the actual physical media used to
reinstall
or update to Windows 98SE or Windows 2000, those machines are
considered
validly licensed where all other conditions are met concerning valid
participation in the program--eligible recipients, eligible donations,
etc.
Your only problem might be actually finding a copy of the media, but
then
other methods of obtaining replacement media already exist.

You might want to read the FAQs for more details on the program, if
you
haven't already. Things like the assumption the donated machines are
OEM,

and not custom-built, for instance.

If you're still unclear, why not just contact the program' customer
service?



http://www.microsoft.com/Education/F...ageCode=FSCont
act

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated
computer
to
be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it to
Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to
report
these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is
eligible
and
I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

Why is Microsoft forbidden to sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. I want to
help allow Microsoft to sell this software with new licenses. Which company
or congressperson must I write to?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
They can *replace* installation media for certain existing licenses. For
various reasons, primarily legal and contractual, they are forbidden to
directly sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. (OEM CDs, like those you can
get from eBay, for instance, are already "sold" including license.)

Windows 2000 can still be purchased in all of its version, directly from
Microsoft.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
news:s8pyc.38284$My6.24361@fed1read05...
This is about the program so I thought it would be okay to add this
question. Does the following mean that Microsoft still has copies of
Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 and if so why do they not release them for
sale for classic (meaning old :) systems that cannot run XP? Any
ideas,
Gary or anyone else?
Q. How much does the school pay for proof of a Windows operating system?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
----
A. Nothing. This program accepts that most donated personal computers
originally had an OEM Windows license. It provides appropriate
documentation
and media to replace the originals that are now missing. Microsoft will
provide a letter to the school that proves licensing for the Windows
operating systems and will send free of charge one Windows 98 Second
Edition
CD and one Windows 2000 Professional CD to help schools reinstall the
software.

It also seems to me to show proof that 98SE is far from dead. HG :
LOL
Yes, I know about the extended deadline to 30 June 2006 for 98, 98SE and
ME
and that critical updates will continue until then. Thanks again to
Microsoft for this and the free security cd.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You have it right.. The deal is that P2 and older do not have any
built-in
method for verifying that they were originally sold with Windows.
Newer
OEM
systems do. Thus, regardless of the actual physical media used to
reinstall
or update to Windows 98SE or Windows 2000, those machines are
considered
validly licensed where all other conditions are met concerning valid
participation in the program--eligible recipients, eligible donations,
etc.
Your only problem might be actually finding a copy of the media, but
then
other methods of obtaining replacement media already exist.

You might want to read the FAQs for more details on the program, if
you
haven't already. Things like the assumption the donated machines are
OEM,

and not custom-built, for instance.

If you're still unclear, why not just contact the program' customer
service?



http://www.microsoft.com/Education/F...ageCode=FSCont
act

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated
computer
to
be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it to
Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to
report
these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is
eligible
and
I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

Research it yourself, Art. I don't have the answers at my fingertips, nor do
I have the time. Lawsuit settlements and contractual agreements are the two
biggest reasons, but I can't give you any details--I don't follow those
things.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
...
Why is Microsoft forbidden to sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. I want
to
help allow Microsoft to sell this software with new licenses. Which
company
or congressperson must I write to?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
They can *replace* installation media for certain existing licenses. For
various reasons, primarily legal and contractual, they are forbidden to
directly sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. (OEM CDs, like those you
can
get from eBay, for instance, are already "sold" including license.)

Windows 2000 can still be purchased in all of its version, directly from
Microsoft.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
news:s8pyc.38284$My6.24361@fed1read05...
This is about the program so I thought it would be okay to add this
question. Does the following mean that Microsoft still has copies of
Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 and if so why do they not release them
for
sale for classic (meaning old :) systems that cannot run XP? Any
ideas,
Gary or anyone else?
Q. How much does the school pay for proof of a Windows operating
system?



--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
----
A. Nothing. This program accepts that most donated personal computers
originally had an OEM Windows license. It provides appropriate
documentation
and media to replace the originals that are now missing. Microsoft
will
provide a letter to the school that proves licensing for the Windows
operating systems and will send free of charge one Windows 98 Second
Edition
CD and one Windows 2000 Professional CD to help schools reinstall the
software.

It also seems to me to show proof that 98SE is far from dead. HG
:
LOL
Yes, I know about the extended deadline to 30 June 2006 for 98, 98SE
and
ME
and that critical updates will continue until then. Thanks again to
Microsoft for this and the free security cd.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You have it right.. The deal is that P2 and older do not have any
built-in
method for verifying that they were originally sold with Windows.
Newer
OEM
systems do. Thus, regardless of the actual physical media used to
reinstall
or update to Windows 98SE or Windows 2000, those machines are
considered
validly licensed where all other conditions are met concerning valid
participation in the program--eligible recipients, eligible
donations,
etc.
Your only problem might be actually finding a copy of the media, but
then
other methods of obtaining replacement media already exist.

You might want to read the FAQs for more details on the program, if
you
haven't already. Things like the assumption the donated machines are
OEM,

and not custom-built, for instance.

If you're still unclear, why not just contact the program' customer
service?




http://www.microsoft.com/Education/F...ageCode=FSCont
act

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated
computer
to
be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report it
to
Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to
report
these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is
eligible
and
I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp

Okay, I will and that will keep me busy. :

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
Research it yourself, Art. I don't have the answers at my fingertips, nor
do
I have the time. Lawsuit settlements and contractual agreements are the
two
biggest reasons, but I can't give you any details--I don't follow those
things.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
...
Why is Microsoft forbidden to sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. I
want
to
help allow Microsoft to sell this software with new licenses. Which
company
or congressperson must I write to?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
They can *replace* installation media for certain existing licenses.
For
various reasons, primarily legal and contractual, they are forbidden
to
directly sell any new 9x, ME or NT licenses. (OEM CDs, like those you
can
get from eBay, for instance, are already "sold" including license.)

Windows 2000 can still be purchased in all of its version, directly
from
Microsoft.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"ArtWilder" wrote in message
news:s8pyc.38284$My6.24361@fed1read05...
This is about the program so I thought it would be okay to add this
question. Does the following mean that Microsoft still has copies
of
Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 and if so why do they not release them
for
sale for classic (meaning old :) systems that cannot run XP? Any
ideas,
Gary or anyone else?
Q. How much does the school pay for proof of a Windows operating
system?




--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
----
A. Nothing. This program accepts that most donated personal
computers
originally had an OEM Windows license. It provides appropriate
documentation
and media to replace the originals that are now missing. Microsoft
will
provide a letter to the school that proves licensing for the Windows
operating systems and will send free of charge one Windows 98 Second
Edition
CD and one Windows 2000 Professional CD to help schools reinstall
the
software.

It also seems to me to show proof that 98SE is far from dead. HG
:
LOL
Yes, I know about the extended deadline to 30 June 2006 for 98, 98SE
and
ME
and that critical updates will continue until then. Thanks again to
Microsoft for this and the free security cd.


"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
You have it right.. The deal is that P2 and older do not have any
built-in
method for verifying that they were originally sold with Windows.
Newer
OEM
systems do. Thus, regardless of the actual physical media used to
reinstall
or update to Windows 98SE or Windows 2000, those machines are
considered
validly licensed where all other conditions are met concerning
valid
participation in the program--eligible recipients, eligible
donations,
etc.
Your only problem might be actually finding a copy of the media,
but
then
other methods of obtaining replacement media already exist.

You might want to read the FAQs for more details on the program,
if
you
haven't already. Things like the assumption the donated machines
are
OEM,

and not custom-built, for instance.

If you're still unclear, why not just contact the program'
customer
service?





http://www.microsoft.com/Education/F...ageCode=FSCont
act

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP for Win9x

"Papashawn" wrote in message
...
Could someone please decipher the requirements for a donated
computer
to
be eligible for the Fresh Start program?

As I read it, any PII or older is eligible as long as I report
it
to
Microsoft. Any donated PIII is eligible and I am not required to
report
these to Microsoft. Any donated computer with a COA sticker is
eligible
and
I am not required to report these to Microsoft.

from:
http://www.microsoft.com/education/f...freshstart.asp