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  #11  
Old June 13th 05, 07:29 PM
Mike M
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My suspicion is that the OP has activated the logging capabilities of
the various firewalls


My suspicion also which is why I mentioned this possibility in my
follow-up post once Peter had confirmed that SR was working.
--
Mike


Noel Paton wrote:

My suspicion is that the OP has activated the logging capabilities of
the various firewalls - and not realised that such an action means
that the firewall will write to the disk every xx seconds - if that
time-period is extended beyond 120seconds, then there's a good chance
that SR will function as advertised (if the firewall can't offer such
an option, then try turning off all logging, and see if that works -
then try activating logging of specific events....)


  #12  
Old June 13th 05, 09:38 PM
Peter
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I was about to follow the advice given, but now I'm getting an error when I
try and go to system restore. The error is "system restore cannot run until
you restart your computer. Please restart your computer and run system
restore again". I did reboot and was able to access SR, but every few days I
get this error.

"Peter" wrote:

Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall I
seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any restore
points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I have
tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any
advice.

  #13  
Old June 13th 05, 09:56 PM
Mike M
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Peter,

System Restore problem:

Check that you don't have a wininit.ini file in your Windows folder. If
you do, rename this to wininit.old and retry System Restore. If this works
then you possibly have a program that creates a wininit.ini file each time
you boot your system. One known example is tgcmd.exe, another is a
program called "ACCESS DENIED". If you have tgcmd.exe I understand that
disabling it in MSConfig | Startup will have no adverse effect on your
system but enable you to use System Restore. Likewise ACCESS DENIED
needs to be "switched off" whilst using SR to either create or restore to
a previous checkpoint. McAfee's Spam Killer also seems to create a new
wininit.ini file each time the system is booted. See also MS KB 274092 -
"Error Message: System Restore Cannot Run Until You Restart the Computer"
(http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=274092).

If this isn't the reason for your problem then try running
SCANREG /FIX
from a command prompt such as Start | Run. Note that the system will
re-boot so don't have any applications open when doing this. I suggest
this because the same message is also displayed when the registry has been
corrupted in some way. scanreg /fix attempts to repair that damage.

Hopefully one or the other will solve your problem and allow you to create
a manual check point. If so then please continue with the rest of the
test.

If however you find that you keep getting a wininit.ini file created each
time you boot your system another known cause is due to having unwanted
malware but hopefully we won't have to go down that path.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Peter wrote:

I was about to follow the advice given, but now I'm getting an error
when I try and go to system restore. The error is "system restore
cannot run until you restart your computer. Please restart your
computer and run system restore again". I did reboot and was able to
access SR, but every few days I get this error.


  #14  
Old June 13th 05, 11:37 PM
Delboy
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Ccleaner is one application that gives this effect, I discovered this with
Mike's excellent advice a while ago. If you have the clean at start-up
option enabled, you will always get this popup; If you clean manually only
in that session.

Delboy

"Peter" wrote in message
...
I was about to follow the advice given, but now I'm getting an error when

I
try and go to system restore. The error is "system restore cannot run

until
you restart your computer. Please restart your computer and run system
restore again". I did reboot and was able to access SR, but every few days

I
get this error.

"Peter" wrote:

Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No matter what

firewall I
seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any

restore
points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I

have
tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any
advice.



  #15  
Old June 13th 05, 11:45 PM
Mike M
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D$$n - thanks for that Delboy. I keep meaning to add that nugget to my
pro forma reply.

Cheers,
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Delboy wrote:

Ccleaner is one application that gives this effect, I discovered this
with Mike's excellent advice a while ago. If you have the clean at
start-up option enabled, you will always get this popup; If you clean
manually only in that session.


  #16  
Old June 13th 05, 11:56 PM
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And the teatimer in Spybot preventing auto RPs you helped me discover.

Delboy

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
D$$n - thanks for that Delboy. I keep meaning to add that nugget to my
pro forma reply.

Cheers,
--
Mike


Delboy wrote:

Ccleaner is one application that gives this effect, I discovered this
with Mike's excellent advice a while ago. If you have the clean at
start-up option enabled, you will always get this popup; If you clean
manually only in that session.




  #17  
Old June 14th 05, 12:35 AM
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I sorta remember that one but there seem simply to be so many nowadays
it's hardly worth mentioning them all but rather to point the user, as I
did you, to find the problem app for themselves. For example there's also
the app called client01.exe which is the process name of DigiGuide
(www.gipsymedia.com a UK TV listings app), which totally screws system
restore on my Win Me box but incidentally causes no problem on this box
running XP Pro or my daughter's which also runs Pro..
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Delboy wrote:

And the teatimer in Spybot preventing auto RPs you helped me discover.

Delboy

"Mike M" wrote in message
...
D$$n - thanks for that Delboy. I keep meaning to add that nugget to
my pro forma reply.

Cheers,
--
Mike


Delboy wrote:

Ccleaner is one application that gives this effect, I discovered
this with Mike's excellent advice a while ago. If you have the
clean at start-up option enabled, you will always get this popup;
If you clean manually only in that session.


  #18  
Old June 14th 05, 01:30 AM
Peter
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I did a search for the Win file and found none. I do have CCLeaner installed
but not to scan on startup.I can still create manual restore points so I
guess I will just have to do it that way. I want to thank all that responed,
especially Mike and Dellboy.

"Peter" wrote:

Is it possiable to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall I
seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any restore
points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I have
tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any
advice.

  #19  
Old June 15th 05, 03:05 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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I urge you not to give up so easily, Peter.

Review the items in the Startup list of msconfig, and temporarily disable
any unessential program which might be the culprit. If there are many, use
the "Divide by Half" method to discover the culprit. Post any questions
here for advice.

And disable event logging for your personal firewall, per Noel and Mike's
recent advice.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Peter" wrote in message
...
I did a search for the Win file and found none. I do have CCLeaner

installed
but not to scan on startup.I can still create manual restore points so I
guess I will just have to do it that way. I want to thank all that

responded,
especially Mike and Dellboy.

"Peter" wrote:

Is it possible to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall

I
seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any

restore
points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I

have
tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any
advice.



  #20  
Old June 15th 05, 10:54 PM
Peter
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I have Zone Alarm free firewall but I can't seem to figure out how to disable
event logging. I have read everything in the help section but to no avail. I
have done the MSCONIFG thing but still have the same problem. I just know it'
s got to be the firewall. Everything was fine until I installed it. Thanks
for the advice.

"Jack E Martinelli" wrote:

I urge you not to give up so easily, Peter.

Review the items in the Startup list of msconfig, and temporarily disable
any unessential program which might be the culprit. If there are many, use
the "Divide by Half" method to discover the culprit. Post any questions
here for advice.

And disable event logging for your personal firewall, per Noel and Mike's
recent advice.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm
In Memorium: Alex Nichol
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/nichol.mspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Peter" wrote in message
...
I did a search for the Win file and found none. I do have CCLeaner

installed
but not to scan on startup.I can still create manual restore points so I
guess I will just have to do it that way. I want to thank all that

responded,
especially Mike and Dellboy.

"Peter" wrote:

Is it possible to reinstall just system restore? No matter what firewall

I
seem to use, after installing, the system restore won't create any

restore
points. I am assuming that the system restore is damaged some how. I

have
tried Sygate and Zone Alarm, both cause the same problem. Thanks for any
advice.




 




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