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Old January 6th 05, 06:25 PM
Seamey.T
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Hello Mart,
This problem only started Sunday 02/01/05 had no problems untill then.
As for anyone poking under the bonnet, (Inside the Machine) I myself am the
only person using the computer,Switch it on and run programes is my "TEC"
skills.

It all seemed to happen after Un-Installing and Re-Installing that Dammed
Norton and it's files.

As for the clock settings,yes they are set to,"GMT,Dublin,London,ect,
ect,always have been,and clock is set to correct time.

Seamey.

"Mart" wrote:

My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?


Yes... but! .. is your Time Zone correctly set to GMT : Dublin, London,
etc., in Control Panel | Date & Time \Time Zone? You're showing 8 Hrs behind
in your e-mail properties.

However, you have now put a whole new complexion on the issue!! You didn't
mention the DVD-RW before!!! So let's just step backwards a little.

When booting from the floppy Startup Disk, you *should* have seen TWO
CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen *should* have shown:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


In other words, ONE of your CD-ROM drives was missing!!! (NB. although it is
a DVD, DOS only recognises it as a CD-ROM)

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is Drive
F" - you won't.)

And!!
had (it) fitted 6months ago. When did your CD-ROM go AWOL?? Coincidence??


Back to my original question -
Have you (or anybody else!!) been poking
about under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged
any connectors?


My revised guess is that a visit back to whoever fitted your DVD *might* be
a better proposition, before you throw cash at a possibly unnecessary new
CD-ROM.

I'll cover your other problem later - first sort this one out g

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
yeah your side of the water,well almost,N.Ireland (Belfast)
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Thanks for the advice on the CD-ROM will buy one tomorrow,as for the
CD-RW,
had a new DVD-RW (Pioneer 107D) fitted 6months ago.

Thank you so very much for all your help and bearing with me,and if you do
come up with any suggestion regarding those' Faded Files',can you mail me,

Keep up the execellent work and may the New Year be kind to you and all in
the Forum,

Seamey.T



"Mart" wrote:

Hi Seamey, - from my side of the water? The UK? Then your clock is 8 hrs
behind GMT (UK time) g

The fact that you cant get it to work in (Real Mode) DOS (via the Startup
floppy Disk) means that WinMe (and your hard drive) are completely
eliminated from the equation. - Although your deletions of the Norton
files
etc. *may* raise their head later - hence one thing at a time g.

I wouldn't really recommend any specific make of CD-ROM as I think most
are
made by only a couple of manufacturers and just re-badged. Mine are LG
but
don't take that as an endorsement. Try your local PC store (PC World?)
and
see what they have to offer. You may wish to think of replacing it with a
burner (CD-RW) but you will need suitable software.

In the meantime, I'll have a think about the 'faded folders'

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

Ah... So it probably didn't even open in WinMe? (Not even using the
button
on the front panel?)

In which case, back to my earlier comments -
Have you been poking about under the bonnet
and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

If not,
You (may) *almost certainly* have a faulty CD-ROM ...!

Substitution/replacement is the only practical solution. I would guess
that
a new one should only be about US$25 or so - they're less than GBP10
over
here.

Good luck with it.

Mart



"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
Sorry for the hassle but just reading over your instructions and
can't
do
anything with the CD-ROM,the tray will not open to let me put a Cd
in,baffled.



"Mart" wrote:

Things initially look OK there. Firstly, the CD-ROM is being
recognised
in
DOS and is being assigned a letter (E).

After things have settled down, then at the A:\ prompt, you need
to
type:-
E: (then press Return)

that should then give you an E:\ prompt. Now put a (data) CD into
your
CD-COM and type:-
dir (then press return) [or dir /p to stop the screen from
scrolling]

and you should see a listing of the contents of the CD.

If all is well, then you need to worry about why WinMe is not
recognising
it - come back and let us know how you get on so far and someone
should
be
able to continue with help.

BTW - To get out of Real Mode DOS, you can either Power-off your PC
(as
you
have now discovered g) or, remove the floppy disk and press
Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You can't directly get back into WinMe!!

....I just hope I haven't done any damage.

No, you won't have damaged anything - at least as far as this is
concerned.

.... have I deleted something I should'nt have.

Not sure yet - see how you get on with the first part.

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

One thing at a time!

... my CD-ROM is not working. Went to Device Manager
and doesn't show there. Rebooted into safe mode to see if
it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal but nothing,

NB. You won't see your CD-ROM in DevMan in Safe Mode, the
drivers
are
only
loaded in Normal Mode.

However, if your not seeing it in Normal Mode, then boot using
your
WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select 'With CD-ROM support' and see
if
it
is
recognised in DOS. (It *should* report a drive letter for your
CD-ROM
which
is not necessarily the same letter as you would expect in
Windows).

If the CD-ROM is not being recognised in DOS, you will have to
boot
into
your BIOS to confirm that it is recognised there. Have you been
poking
about
under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

You *may* have a faulty CD-ROM of course!

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Guys,
Have just noticed that a lot of my Files and Folders are
Greyed
out
and
am
begining to panic.I went into Windows/temp and deleted a lot
of
stuff
which I
thought were safe to remove, but now I've just discoverd my
CD-ROM
is
not
working. Went to Device Manager and doesn't show
there.Rebooted
into
safe
mode to see if it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal
but
nothing,what
the heck have Idone.


Hi Mart,
Well did as you instructed and yes it was recognized in "DOS"
but I
had
to
restart my computer to get out of it.
This is the read out it gave me, "The Diagnostil Tools Were
Succesfully
loaded To Drive (D)"MSCDEX VERSION 2.25 Copyright (c) Microsoft
Corp.1986-1995 "Drive E:=DriverMSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E"
The "DOS" Screen then showed this,"COR101:Not Ready Reading Drive
E

Abort,Retry,Fail,
I let this run thinking it normal,but 18hrs later,surely not,it
would
not
let me Exit,I just hope I haven't done any damage.
This all came about while i was Un-Installing and Re-Installing
an
Anti-Virus program were i had to go into Files and Folders to
delete
Shared
and Temp Files,have I deleted something I should'nt have.






Hi Mart,
I wouldn't have a clue how to get under the bed never mind this
machine.
You're right I can't open the CD-ROM from the button at the front of
the
CPU
and the Orange light is on permanent were it's normally off or flashing
.
I deleted some files last week and this happened, so I quickly restored
them
back and the CD-ROM worked again,weather this was a factor or not.Was
just
wondering when I was deleting those Norton Files and Temp's did I make
a
ricky somewhere.Checking through "MS,Troubleshooting" all day,and
these
Forums but only found one thing,probably has nothing to do with my
problem.
"MS" Artical ID:275499 (Troubleshooting Device Driver Issues Using The
Driver Information Database)
"Mart" please don't think I'm trying to under-mind your efforts,not by
a
long way,us "Dummies" couldn't survive in this "Tec"world without you
folks.
If it is a new CD-ROM I need, could you recommend a good one,I'm from
your
side of the water and price is no-matter.
Could you look into the other matter I asked about,the faded out
Files&Folders,
Thank You.






  #12  
Old January 6th 05, 06:36 PM
Noel Paton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Mart - unless you've actually had an email from Seamey, he's using the CDP -
so has no control of the posting time (which is not affected by local
settings, except for the Redmond server clock)
I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?


Yes... but! .. is your Time Zone correctly set to GMT : Dublin, London,
etc., in Control Panel | Date & Time \Time Zone? You're showing 8 Hrs
behind
in your e-mail properties.

However, you have now put a whole new complexion on the issue!! You didn't
mention the DVD-RW before!!! So let's just step backwards a little.

When booting from the floppy Startup Disk, you *should* have seen TWO
CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen *should* have shown:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


In other words, ONE of your CD-ROM drives was missing!!! (NB. although it
is a DVD, DOS only recognises it as a CD-ROM)

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is Drive
F" - you won't.)

And!!
had (it) fitted 6months ago. When did your CD-ROM go AWOL??
Coincidence??


Back to my original question -
Have you (or anybody else!!) been poking
about under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged
any connectors?


My revised guess is that a visit back to whoever fitted your DVD *might*
be a better proposition, before you throw cash at a possibly unnecessary
new CD-ROM.

I'll cover your other problem later - first sort this one out g

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
yeah your side of the water,well almost,N.Ireland (Belfast)
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Thanks for the advice on the CD-ROM will buy one tomorrow,as for the
CD-RW,
had a new DVD-RW (Pioneer 107D) fitted 6months ago.

Thank you so very much for all your help and bearing with me,and if you
do
come up with any suggestion regarding those' Faded Files',can you mail
me,

Keep up the execellent work and may the New Year be kind to you and all
in
the Forum,

Seamey.T



"Mart" wrote:

Hi Seamey, - from my side of the water? The UK? Then your clock is 8 hrs
behind GMT (UK time) g

The fact that you cant get it to work in (Real Mode) DOS (via the
Startup
floppy Disk) means that WinMe (and your hard drive) are completely
eliminated from the equation. - Although your deletions of the Norton
files
etc. *may* raise their head later - hence one thing at a time g.

I wouldn't really recommend any specific make of CD-ROM as I think most
are
made by only a couple of manufacturers and just re-badged. Mine are LG
but
don't take that as an endorsement. Try your local PC store (PC World?)
and
see what they have to offer. You may wish to think of replacing it with
a
burner (CD-RW) but you will need suitable software.

In the meantime, I'll have a think about the 'faded folders'

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

Ah... So it probably didn't even open in WinMe? (Not even using the
button
on the front panel?)

In which case, back to my earlier comments -
Have you been poking about under the bonnet
and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

If not,
You (may) *almost certainly* have a faulty CD-ROM ...!

Substitution/replacement is the only practical solution. I would
guess
that
a new one should only be about US$25 or so - they're less than GBP10
over
here.

Good luck with it.

Mart



"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
Sorry for the hassle but just reading over your instructions and
can't
do
anything with the CD-ROM,the tray will not open to let me put a Cd
in,baffled.



"Mart" wrote:

Things initially look OK there. Firstly, the CD-ROM is being
recognised
in
DOS and is being assigned a letter (E).

After things have settled down, then at the A:\ prompt, you need
to
type:-
E: (then press Return)

that should then give you an E:\ prompt. Now put a (data) CD into
your
CD-COM and type:-
dir (then press return) [or dir /p to stop the screen
from
scrolling]

and you should see a listing of the contents of the CD.

If all is well, then you need to worry about why WinMe is not
recognising
it - come back and let us know how you get on so far and someone
should
be
able to continue with help.

BTW - To get out of Real Mode DOS, you can either Power-off your
PC
(as
you
have now discovered g) or, remove the floppy disk and press
Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You can't directly get back into WinMe!!

....I just hope I haven't done any damage.

No, you won't have damaged anything - at least as far as this is
concerned.

.... have I deleted something I should'nt have.

Not sure yet - see how you get on with the first part.

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

One thing at a time!

... my CD-ROM is not working. Went to Device Manager
and doesn't show there. Rebooted into safe mode to see if
it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal but nothing,

NB. You won't see your CD-ROM in DevMan in Safe Mode, the
drivers
are
only
loaded in Normal Mode.

However, if your not seeing it in Normal Mode, then boot using
your
WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select 'With CD-ROM support' and see
if
it
is
recognised in DOS. (It *should* report a drive letter for your
CD-ROM
which
is not necessarily the same letter as you would expect in
Windows).

If the CD-ROM is not being recognised in DOS, you will have to
boot
into
your BIOS to confirm that it is recognised there. Have you been
poking
about
under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

You *may* have a faulty CD-ROM of course!

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...
Hi Guys,
Have just noticed that a lot of my Files and Folders are
Greyed
out
and
am
begining to panic.I went into Windows/temp and deleted a lot
of
stuff
which I
thought were safe to remove, but now I've just discoverd my
CD-ROM
is
not
working. Went to Device Manager and doesn't show
there.Rebooted
into
safe
mode to see if it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal
but
nothing,what
the heck have Idone.


Hi Mart,
Well did as you instructed and yes it was recognized in "DOS"
but I
had
to
restart my computer to get out of it.
This is the read out it gave me, "The Diagnostil Tools Were
Succesfully
loaded To Drive (D)"MSCDEX VERSION 2.25 Copyright (c) Microsoft
Corp.1986-1995 "Drive E:=DriverMSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E"
The "DOS" Screen then showed this,"COR101:Not Ready Reading
Drive E

Abort,Retry,Fail,
I let this run thinking it normal,but 18hrs later,surely not,it
would
not
let me Exit,I just hope I haven't done any damage.
This all came about while i was Un-Installing and Re-Installing
an
Anti-Virus program were i had to go into Files and Folders to
delete
Shared
and Temp Files,have I deleted something I should'nt have.






Hi Mart,
I wouldn't have a clue how to get under the bed never mind this
machine.
You're right I can't open the CD-ROM from the button at the front of
the
CPU
and the Orange light is on permanent were it's normally off or
flashing .
I deleted some files last week and this happened, so I quickly
restored
them
back and the CD-ROM worked again,weather this was a factor or not.Was
just
wondering when I was deleting those Norton Files and Temp's did I make
a
ricky somewhere.Checking through "MS,Troubleshooting" all day,and
these
Forums but only found one thing,probably has nothing to do with my
problem.
"MS" Artical ID:275499 (Troubleshooting Device Driver Issues Using The
Driver Information Database)
"Mart" please don't think I'm trying to under-mind your efforts,not by
a
long way,us "Dummies" couldn't survive in this "Tec"world without you
folks.
If it is a new CD-ROM I need, could you recommend a good one,I'm from
your
side of the water and price is no-matter.
Could you look into the other matter I asked about,the faded out
Files&Folders,
Thank You.







  #13  
Old January 6th 05, 07:13 PM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

It all seemed to happen after Un-Installing and Re-Installing
that Dammed Norton and it's files.


Mmm.. Not relevant to the CD-ROM issue, as booting from the floppy into DOS
does not bring anything on the HDD (especially Norton!!) into action.

So it would appear that your CD-ROM has died after all - Coincidence?? -
Just bad luck, I guess :-(

So it's off to PC World then g

As for the clock settings, yes they are set to,"GMT, Dublin,
London, etc, etc, always have been, and clock is set to
correct time.


What time-stamp is shown in the Propertis/Details on your PC for your (and
my) received mail? Your last one at 17.25 is being shown as 09.25. Is your
clock set for am or pm?? Nah... it's 8 hrs not 12 hrs wrong.

Perhaps the 8hr discrepancy has something to do with posting via MS CDO
rather than using Outlook Express - maybe someone else can explain.

**Just seen your post before pressing the Send button, Noel g - Thanks!!**

Typically, what sort of files & folders are "greyed out"? (In Windows
Explorer?)
Right-click on one (or few) and select Properties.
Are they 'System' files/folders? What are their attributes shown as
(compared to those NOT greyed-out)?

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hello Mart,
This problem only started Sunday 02/01/05 had no problems untill then.
As for anyone poking under the bonnet, (Inside the Machine) I myself am
the
only person using the computer,Switch it on and run programes is my "TEC"
skills.

It all seemed to happen after Un-Installing and Re-Installing that Dammed
Norton and it's files.

As for the clock settings,yes they are set to,"GMT,Dublin,London,ect,
ect,always have been,and clock is set to correct time.

Seamey.

"Mart" wrote:

My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?


Yes... but! .. is your Time Zone correctly set to GMT : Dublin, London,
etc., in Control Panel | Date & Time \Time Zone? You're showing 8 Hrs
behind
in your e-mail properties.

However, you have now put a whole new complexion on the issue!! You
didn't
mention the DVD-RW before!!! So let's just step backwards a little.

When booting from the floppy Startup Disk, you *should* have seen TWO
CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen *should* have shown:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


In other words, ONE of your CD-ROM drives was missing!!! (NB. although it
is
a DVD, DOS only recognises it as a CD-ROM)

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is
Drive
F" - you won't.)

And!!
had (it) fitted 6months ago. When did your CD-ROM go AWOL??
Coincidence??


Back to my original question -
Have you (or anybody else!!) been poking
about under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged
any connectors?


My revised guess is that a visit back to whoever fitted your DVD *might*
be
a better proposition, before you throw cash at a possibly unnecessary new
CD-ROM.

I'll cover your other problem later - first sort this one out g

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
yeah your side of the water,well almost,N.Ireland (Belfast)
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Thanks for the advice on the CD-ROM will buy one tomorrow,as for the
CD-RW,
had a new DVD-RW (Pioneer 107D) fitted 6months ago.

Thank you so very much for all your help and bearing with me,and if you
do
come up with any suggestion regarding those' Faded Files',can you mail
me,

Keep up the execellent work and may the New Year be kind to you and all
in
the Forum,

Seamey.T



"Mart" wrote:

Hi Seamey, - from my side of the water? The UK? Then your clock is 8
hrs
behind GMT (UK time) g

The fact that you cant get it to work in (Real Mode) DOS (via the
Startup
floppy Disk) means that WinMe (and your hard drive) are completely
eliminated from the equation. - Although your deletions of the Norton
files
etc. *may* raise their head later - hence one thing at a time g.

I wouldn't really recommend any specific make of CD-ROM as I think
most
are
made by only a couple of manufacturers and just re-badged. Mine are LG
but
don't take that as an endorsement. Try your local PC store (PC World?)
and
see what they have to offer. You may wish to think of replacing it
with a
burner (CD-RW) but you will need suitable software.

In the meantime, I'll have a think about the 'faded folders'

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

Ah... So it probably didn't even open in WinMe? (Not even using
the
button
on the front panel?)

In which case, back to my earlier comments -
Have you been poking about under the bonnet
and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

If not,
You (may) *almost certainly* have a faulty CD-ROM ...!

Substitution/replacement is the only practical solution. I would
guess
that
a new one should only be about US$25 or so - they're less than
GBP10
over
here.

Good luck with it.

Mart



"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
Sorry for the hassle but just reading over your instructions and
can't
do
anything with the CD-ROM,the tray will not open to let me put a
Cd
in,baffled.



"Mart" wrote:

Things initially look OK there. Firstly, the CD-ROM is being
recognised
in
DOS and is being assigned a letter (E).

After things have settled down, then at the A:\ prompt, you
need
to
type:-
E: (then press Return)

that should then give you an E:\ prompt. Now put a (data) CD
into
your
CD-COM and type:-
dir (then press return) [or dir /p to stop the screen
from
scrolling]

and you should see a listing of the contents of the CD.

If all is well, then you need to worry about why WinMe is not
recognising
it - come back and let us know how you get on so far and someone
should
be
able to continue with help.

BTW - To get out of Real Mode DOS, you can either Power-off your
PC
(as
you
have now discovered g) or, remove the floppy disk and press
Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You can't directly get back into WinMe!!

....I just hope I haven't done any damage.

No, you won't have damaged anything - at least as far as this is
concerned.

.... have I deleted something I should'nt have.

Not sure yet - see how you get on with the first part.

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

One thing at a time!

... my CD-ROM is not working. Went to Device Manager
and doesn't show there. Rebooted into safe mode to see if
it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal but nothing,

NB. You won't see your CD-ROM in DevMan in Safe Mode, the
drivers
are
only
loaded in Normal Mode.

However, if your not seeing it in Normal Mode, then boot
using
your
WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select 'With CD-ROM support' and
see
if
it
is
recognised in DOS. (It *should* report a drive letter for
your
CD-ROM
which
is not necessarily the same letter as you would expect in
Windows).

If the CD-ROM is not being recognised in DOS, you will have
to
boot
into
your BIOS to confirm that it is recognised there. Have you
been
poking
about
under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

You *may* have a faulty CD-ROM of course!

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...
Hi Guys,
Have just noticed that a lot of my Files and Folders are
Greyed
out
and
am
begining to panic.I went into Windows/temp and deleted a
lot
of
stuff
which I
thought were safe to remove, but now I've just discoverd my
CD-ROM
is
not
working. Went to Device Manager and doesn't show
there.Rebooted
into
safe
mode to see if it would re-appear when I booted up in
Normal
but
nothing,what
the heck have Idone.


Hi Mart,
Well did as you instructed and yes it was recognized in "DOS"
but I
had
to
restart my computer to get out of it.
This is the read out it gave me, "The Diagnostil Tools Were
Succesfully
loaded To Drive (D)"MSCDEX VERSION 2.25 Copyright (c)
Microsoft
Corp.1986-1995 "Drive E:=DriverMSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E"
The "DOS" Screen then showed this,"COR101:Not Ready Reading
Drive
E

Abort,Retry,Fail,
I let this run thinking it normal,but 18hrs later,surely
not,it
would
not
let me Exit,I just hope I haven't done any damage.
This all came about while i was Un-Installing and
Re-Installing
an
Anti-Virus program were i had to go into Files and Folders to
delete
Shared
and Temp Files,have I deleted something I should'nt have.






Hi Mart,
I wouldn't have a clue how to get under the bed never mind this
machine.
You're right I can't open the CD-ROM from the button at the front of
the
CPU
and the Orange light is on permanent were it's normally off or
flashing
.
I deleted some files last week and this happened, so I quickly
restored
them
back and the CD-ROM worked again,weather this was a factor or
not.Was
just
wondering when I was deleting those Norton Files and Temp's did I
make
a
ricky somewhere.Checking through "MS,Troubleshooting" all day,and
these
Forums but only found one thing,probably has nothing to do with my
problem.
"MS" Artical ID:275499 (Troubleshooting Device Driver Issues Using
The
Driver Information Database)
"Mart" please don't think I'm trying to under-mind your efforts,not
by
a
long way,us "Dummies" couldn't survive in this "Tec"world without
you
folks.
If it is a new CD-ROM I need, could you recommend a good one,I'm
from
your
side of the water and price is no-matter.
Could you look into the other matter I asked about,the faded out
Files&Folders,
Thank You.








  #14  
Old January 6th 05, 07:22 PM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

**Just seen your post before pressing the Send button, Noel g - Thanks!!**

I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!


They are ALL 8Hrs out - at least in this thread, Noel g

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Mart - unless you've actually had an email from Seamey, he's using the
CDP - so has no control of the posting time (which is not affected by
local settings, except for the Redmond server clock)
I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?


Yes... but! .. is your Time Zone correctly set to GMT : Dublin, London,
etc., in Control Panel | Date & Time \Time Zone? You're showing 8 Hrs
behind
in your e-mail properties.

However, you have now put a whole new complexion on the issue!! You
didn't mention the DVD-RW before!!! So let's just step backwards a
little.

When booting from the floppy Startup Disk, you *should* have seen TWO
CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen *should* have shown:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


In other words, ONE of your CD-ROM drives was missing!!! (NB. although it
is a DVD, DOS only recognises it as a CD-ROM)

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is
Drive F" - you won't.)

And!!
had (it) fitted 6months ago. When did your CD-ROM go AWOL??
Coincidence??


Back to my original question -
Have you (or anybody else!!) been poking
about under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged
any connectors?


My revised guess is that a visit back to whoever fitted your DVD *might*
be a better proposition, before you throw cash at a possibly unnecessary
new CD-ROM.

I'll cover your other problem later - first sort this one out g

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
yeah your side of the water,well almost,N.Ireland (Belfast)
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Thanks for the advice on the CD-ROM will buy one tomorrow,as for the
CD-RW,
had a new DVD-RW (Pioneer 107D) fitted 6months ago.

Thank you so very much for all your help and bearing with me,and if you
do
come up with any suggestion regarding those' Faded Files',can you mail
me,

Keep up the execellent work and may the New Year be kind to you and all
in
the Forum,

Seamey.T



"Mart" wrote:

Hi Seamey, - from my side of the water? The UK? Then your clock is 8
hrs
behind GMT (UK time) g

The fact that you cant get it to work in (Real Mode) DOS (via the
Startup
floppy Disk) means that WinMe (and your hard drive) are completely
eliminated from the equation. - Although your deletions of the Norton
files
etc. *may* raise their head later - hence one thing at a time g.

I wouldn't really recommend any specific make of CD-ROM as I think most
are
made by only a couple of manufacturers and just re-badged. Mine are LG
but
don't take that as an endorsement. Try your local PC store (PC World?)
and
see what they have to offer. You may wish to think of replacing it with
a
burner (CD-RW) but you will need suitable software.

In the meantime, I'll have a think about the 'faded folders'

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

Ah... So it probably didn't even open in WinMe? (Not even using the
button
on the front panel?)

In which case, back to my earlier comments -
Have you been poking about under the bonnet
and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

If not,
You (may) *almost certainly* have a faulty CD-ROM ...!

Substitution/replacement is the only practical solution. I would
guess
that
a new one should only be about US$25 or so - they're less than GBP10
over
here.

Good luck with it.

Mart



"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
Sorry for the hassle but just reading over your instructions and
can't
do
anything with the CD-ROM,the tray will not open to let me put a Cd
in,baffled.



"Mart" wrote:

Things initially look OK there. Firstly, the CD-ROM is being
recognised
in
DOS and is being assigned a letter (E).

After things have settled down, then at the A:\ prompt, you need
to
type:-
E: (then press Return)

that should then give you an E:\ prompt. Now put a (data) CD
into
your
CD-COM and type:-
dir (then press return) [or dir /p to stop the screen
from
scrolling]

and you should see a listing of the contents of the CD.

If all is well, then you need to worry about why WinMe is not
recognising
it - come back and let us know how you get on so far and someone
should
be
able to continue with help.

BTW - To get out of Real Mode DOS, you can either Power-off your
PC
(as
you
have now discovered g) or, remove the floppy disk and press
Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You can't directly get back into WinMe!!

....I just hope I haven't done any damage.

No, you won't have damaged anything - at least as far as this is
concerned.

.... have I deleted something I should'nt have.

Not sure yet - see how you get on with the first part.

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

One thing at a time!

... my CD-ROM is not working. Went to Device Manager
and doesn't show there. Rebooted into safe mode to see if
it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal but nothing,

NB. You won't see your CD-ROM in DevMan in Safe Mode, the
drivers
are
only
loaded in Normal Mode.

However, if your not seeing it in Normal Mode, then boot using
your
WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select 'With CD-ROM support' and see
if
it
is
recognised in DOS. (It *should* report a drive letter for your
CD-ROM
which
is not necessarily the same letter as you would expect in
Windows).

If the CD-ROM is not being recognised in DOS, you will have to
boot
into
your BIOS to confirm that it is recognised there. Have you
been
poking
about
under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

You *may* have a faulty CD-ROM of course!

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...
Hi Guys,
Have just noticed that a lot of my Files and Folders are
Greyed
out
and
am
begining to panic.I went into Windows/temp and deleted a lot
of
stuff
which I
thought were safe to remove, but now I've just discoverd my
CD-ROM
is
not
working. Went to Device Manager and doesn't show
there.Rebooted
into
safe
mode to see if it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal
but
nothing,what
the heck have Idone.


Hi Mart,
Well did as you instructed and yes it was recognized in "DOS"
but I
had
to
restart my computer to get out of it.
This is the read out it gave me, "The Diagnostil Tools Were
Succesfully
loaded To Drive (D)"MSCDEX VERSION 2.25 Copyright (c) Microsoft
Corp.1986-1995 "Drive E:=DriverMSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E"
The "DOS" Screen then showed this,"COR101:Not Ready Reading
Drive E

Abort,Retry,Fail,
I let this run thinking it normal,but 18hrs later,surely not,it
would
not
let me Exit,I just hope I haven't done any damage.
This all came about while i was Un-Installing and Re-Installing
an
Anti-Virus program were i had to go into Files and Folders to
delete
Shared
and Temp Files,have I deleted something I should'nt have.






Hi Mart,
I wouldn't have a clue how to get under the bed never mind this
machine.
You're right I can't open the CD-ROM from the button at the front of
the
CPU
and the Orange light is on permanent were it's normally off or
flashing .
I deleted some files last week and this happened, so I quickly
restored
them
back and the CD-ROM worked again,weather this was a factor or not.Was
just
wondering when I was deleting those Norton Files and Temp's did I
make a
ricky somewhere.Checking through "MS,Troubleshooting" all day,and
these
Forums but only found one thing,probably has nothing to do with my
problem.
"MS" Artical ID:275499 (Troubleshooting Device Driver Issues Using
The
Driver Information Database)
"Mart" please don't think I'm trying to under-mind your efforts,not
by a
long way,us "Dummies" couldn't survive in this "Tec"world without you
folks.
If it is a new CD-ROM I need, could you recommend a good one,I'm from
your
side of the water and price is no-matter.
Could you look into the other matter I asked about,the faded out
Files&Folders,
Thank You.









  #15  
Old January 6th 05, 10:03 PM
Noel Paton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Hmmm - I have timestamps.....
07:37 - S
15:14 - M
next day
13:15 - S
16:47 - M
21:15 - S
23:33 - M
next day
02:03 - S
08:58 - M
15:11 - S
16:10 - M
17:25 - S
18:13 - M
( and that even removes the odd one that I though was there!)
All in logical order, no branching or whatever.......

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
**Just seen your post before pressing the Send button, Noel g -
Thanks!!**

I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!


They are ALL 8Hrs out - at least in this thread, Noel g

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Mart - unless you've actually had an email from Seamey, he's using the
CDP - so has no control of the posting time (which is not affected by
local settings, except for the Redmond server clock)
I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Yes... but! .. is your Time Zone correctly set to GMT : Dublin, London,
etc., in Control Panel | Date & Time \Time Zone? You're showing 8 Hrs
behind
in your e-mail properties.

However, you have now put a whole new complexion on the issue!! You
didn't mention the DVD-RW before!!! So let's just step backwards a
little.

When booting from the floppy Startup Disk, you *should* have seen TWO
CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen *should* have shown:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E

In other words, ONE of your CD-ROM drives was missing!!! (NB. although
it is a DVD, DOS only recognises it as a CD-ROM)

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is
Drive F" - you won't.)

And!!
had (it) fitted 6months ago. When did your CD-ROM go AWOL??
Coincidence??

Back to my original question -
Have you (or anybody else!!) been poking
about under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged
any connectors?

My revised guess is that a visit back to whoever fitted your DVD *might*
be a better proposition, before you throw cash at a possibly unnecessary
new CD-ROM.

I'll cover your other problem later - first sort this one out g

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
yeah your side of the water,well almost,N.Ireland (Belfast)
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Thanks for the advice on the CD-ROM will buy one tomorrow,as for the
CD-RW,
had a new DVD-RW (Pioneer 107D) fitted 6months ago.

Thank you so very much for all your help and bearing with me,and if you
do
come up with any suggestion regarding those' Faded Files',can you mail
me,

Keep up the execellent work and may the New Year be kind to you and all
in
the Forum,

Seamey.T



"Mart" wrote:

Hi Seamey, - from my side of the water? The UK? Then your clock is 8
hrs
behind GMT (UK time) g

The fact that you cant get it to work in (Real Mode) DOS (via the
Startup
floppy Disk) means that WinMe (and your hard drive) are completely
eliminated from the equation. - Although your deletions of the Norton
files
etc. *may* raise their head later - hence one thing at a time g.

I wouldn't really recommend any specific make of CD-ROM as I think
most are
made by only a couple of manufacturers and just re-badged. Mine are LG
but
don't take that as an endorsement. Try your local PC store (PC World?)
and
see what they have to offer. You may wish to think of replacing it
with a
burner (CD-RW) but you will need suitable software.

In the meantime, I'll have a think about the 'faded folders'

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

Ah... So it probably didn't even open in WinMe? (Not even using
the
button
on the front panel?)

In which case, back to my earlier comments -
Have you been poking about under the bonnet
and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

If not,
You (may) *almost certainly* have a faulty CD-ROM ...!

Substitution/replacement is the only practical solution. I would
guess
that
a new one should only be about US$25 or so - they're less than
GBP10 over
here.

Good luck with it.

Mart



"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
Sorry for the hassle but just reading over your instructions and
can't
do
anything with the CD-ROM,the tray will not open to let me put a
Cd
in,baffled.



"Mart" wrote:

Things initially look OK there. Firstly, the CD-ROM is being
recognised
in
DOS and is being assigned a letter (E).

After things have settled down, then at the A:\ prompt, you
need to
type:-
E: (then press Return)

that should then give you an E:\ prompt. Now put a (data) CD
into
your
CD-COM and type:-
dir (then press return) [or dir /p to stop the screen
from
scrolling]

and you should see a listing of the contents of the CD.

If all is well, then you need to worry about why WinMe is not
recognising
it - come back and let us know how you get on so far and someone
should
be
able to continue with help.

BTW - To get out of Real Mode DOS, you can either Power-off your
PC
(as
you
have now discovered g) or, remove the floppy disk and press
Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You can't directly get back into WinMe!!

....I just hope I haven't done any damage.

No, you won't have damaged anything - at least as far as this is
concerned.

.... have I deleted something I should'nt have.

Not sure yet - see how you get on with the first part.

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

One thing at a time!

... my CD-ROM is not working. Went to Device Manager
and doesn't show there. Rebooted into safe mode to see if
it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal but nothing,

NB. You won't see your CD-ROM in DevMan in Safe Mode, the
drivers
are
only
loaded in Normal Mode.

However, if your not seeing it in Normal Mode, then boot
using your
WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select 'With CD-ROM support' and
see if
it
is
recognised in DOS. (It *should* report a drive letter for
your
CD-ROM
which
is not necessarily the same letter as you would expect in
Windows).

If the CD-ROM is not being recognised in DOS, you will have
to boot
into
your BIOS to confirm that it is recognised there. Have you
been
poking
about
under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

You *may* have a faulty CD-ROM of course!

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...
Hi Guys,
Have just noticed that a lot of my Files and Folders are
Greyed
out
and
am
begining to panic.I went into Windows/temp and deleted a
lot of
stuff
which I
thought were safe to remove, but now I've just discoverd my
CD-ROM
is
not
working. Went to Device Manager and doesn't show
there.Rebooted
into
safe
mode to see if it would re-appear when I booted up in
Normal but
nothing,what
the heck have Idone.


Hi Mart,
Well did as you instructed and yes it was recognized in "DOS"
but I
had
to
restart my computer to get out of it.
This is the read out it gave me, "The Diagnostil Tools Were
Succesfully
loaded To Drive (D)"MSCDEX VERSION 2.25 Copyright (c)
Microsoft
Corp.1986-1995 "Drive E:=DriverMSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E"
The "DOS" Screen then showed this,"COR101:Not Ready Reading
Drive E

Abort,Retry,Fail,
I let this run thinking it normal,but 18hrs later,surely
not,it
would
not
let me Exit,I just hope I haven't done any damage.
This all came about while i was Un-Installing and
Re-Installing an
Anti-Virus program were i had to go into Files and Folders to
delete
Shared
and Temp Files,have I deleted something I should'nt have.






Hi Mart,
I wouldn't have a clue how to get under the bed never mind this
machine.
You're right I can't open the CD-ROM from the button at the front of
the
CPU
and the Orange light is on permanent were it's normally off or
flashing .
I deleted some files last week and this happened, so I quickly
restored
them
back and the CD-ROM worked again,weather this was a factor or
not.Was just
wondering when I was deleting those Norton Files and Temp's did I
make a
ricky somewhere.Checking through "MS,Troubleshooting" all day,and
these
Forums but only found one thing,probably has nothing to do with my
problem.
"MS" Artical ID:275499 (Troubleshooting Device Driver Issues Using
The
Driver Information Database)
"Mart" please don't think I'm trying to under-mind your efforts,not
by a
long way,us "Dummies" couldn't survive in this "Tec"world without
you
folks.
If it is a new CD-ROM I need, could you recommend a good one,I'm
from your
side of the water and price is no-matter.
Could you look into the other matter I asked about,the faded out
Files&Folders,
Thank You.











  #16  
Old January 6th 05, 10:16 PM
Mike M
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Which is what I am seeing as well, nothing as far as I can see out of
order. :-)
--
Mike


Noel Paton wrote:

Hmmm - I have timestamps.....
07:37 - S
15:14 - M
next day
13:15 - S
16:47 - M
21:15 - S
23:33 - M
next day
02:03 - S
08:58 - M
15:11 - S
16:10 - M
17:25 - S
18:13 - M
( and that even removes the odd one that I though was there!)
All in logical order, no branching or whatever.......


  #17  
Old January 6th 05, 10:31 PM
Joan Archer
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

That's what I'm seeing although mine are in am /pm mode g
Joan

"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Hmmm - I have timestamps.....
07:37 - S
15:14 - M
next day
13:15 - S
16:47 - M
21:15 - S
23:33 - M
next day
02:03 - S
08:58 - M
15:11 - S
16:10 - M
17:25 - S
18:13 - M
( and that even removes the odd one that I though was there!)
All in logical order, no branching or whatever.......

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)



  #18  
Old January 6th 05, 10:32 PM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I should have said - "Take a look at the 'Properties' \ 'Details' -
they (Seamey's) are all -0800"
mine are all -0000

Like you said Noel, "he's using the CDP - so has no control
of the posting time (which is not affected by local settings,
except for the Redmond server clock)"

Never noticed that affect before - always ASSumed it to be correct bg

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Hmmm - I have timestamps.....
07:37 - S
15:14 - M
next day
13:15 - S
16:47 - M
21:15 - S
23:33 - M
next day
02:03 - S
08:58 - M
15:11 - S
16:10 - M
17:25 - S
18:13 - M
( and that even removes the odd one that I though was there!)
All in logical order, no branching or whatever.......

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
**Just seen your post before pressing the Send button, Noel g -
Thanks!!**

I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!


They are ALL 8Hrs out - at least in this thread, Noel g

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Mart - unless you've actually had an email from Seamey, he's using the
CDP - so has no control of the posting time (which is not affected by
local settings, except for the Redmond server clock)
I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Yes... but! .. is your Time Zone correctly set to GMT : Dublin, London,
etc., in Control Panel | Date & Time \Time Zone? You're showing 8 Hrs
behind
in your e-mail properties.

However, you have now put a whole new complexion on the issue!! You
didn't mention the DVD-RW before!!! So let's just step backwards a
little.

When booting from the floppy Startup Disk, you *should* have seen TWO
CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen *should* have shown:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E

In other words, ONE of your CD-ROM drives was missing!!! (NB. although
it is a DVD, DOS only recognises it as a CD-ROM)

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is
Drive F" - you won't.)

And!!
had (it) fitted 6months ago. When did your CD-ROM go AWOL??
Coincidence??

Back to my original question -
Have you (or anybody else!!) been poking
about under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged
any connectors?

My revised guess is that a visit back to whoever fitted your DVD
*might* be a better proposition, before you throw cash at a possibly
unnecessary new CD-ROM.

I'll cover your other problem later - first sort this one out g

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
yeah your side of the water,well almost,N.Ireland (Belfast)
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Thanks for the advice on the CD-ROM will buy one tomorrow,as for the
CD-RW,
had a new DVD-RW (Pioneer 107D) fitted 6months ago.

Thank you so very much for all your help and bearing with me,and if
you do
come up with any suggestion regarding those' Faded Files',can you mail
me,

Keep up the execellent work and may the New Year be kind to you and
all in
the Forum,

Seamey.T



"Mart" wrote:

Hi Seamey, - from my side of the water? The UK? Then your clock is 8
hrs
behind GMT (UK time) g

The fact that you cant get it to work in (Real Mode) DOS (via the
Startup
floppy Disk) means that WinMe (and your hard drive) are completely
eliminated from the equation. - Although your deletions of the Norton
files
etc. *may* raise their head later - hence one thing at a time g.

I wouldn't really recommend any specific make of CD-ROM as I think
most are
made by only a couple of manufacturers and just re-badged. Mine are
LG but
don't take that as an endorsement. Try your local PC store (PC
World?) and
see what they have to offer. You may wish to think of replacing it
with a
burner (CD-RW) but you will need suitable software.

In the meantime, I'll have a think about the 'faded folders'

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

Ah... So it probably didn't even open in WinMe? (Not even using
the
button
on the front panel?)

In which case, back to my earlier comments -
Have you been poking about under the bonnet
and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

If not,
You (may) *almost certainly* have a faulty CD-ROM ...!

Substitution/replacement is the only practical solution. I would
guess
that
a new one should only be about US$25 or so - they're less than
GBP10 over
here.

Good luck with it.

Mart



"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
Sorry for the hassle but just reading over your instructions and
can't
do
anything with the CD-ROM,the tray will not open to let me put a
Cd
in,baffled.



"Mart" wrote:

Things initially look OK there. Firstly, the CD-ROM is being
recognised
in
DOS and is being assigned a letter (E).

After things have settled down, then at the A:\ prompt, you
need to
type:-
E: (then press Return)

that should then give you an E:\ prompt. Now put a (data) CD
into
your
CD-COM and type:-
dir (then press return) [or dir /p to stop the screen
from
scrolling]

and you should see a listing of the contents of the CD.

If all is well, then you need to worry about why WinMe is not
recognising
it - come back and let us know how you get on so far and
someone
should
be
able to continue with help.

BTW - To get out of Real Mode DOS, you can either Power-off
your PC
(as
you
have now discovered g) or, remove the floppy disk and press
Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You can't directly get back into WinMe!!

....I just hope I haven't done any damage.

No, you won't have damaged anything - at least as far as this
is
concerned.

.... have I deleted something I should'nt have.

Not sure yet - see how you get on with the first part.

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...


"Mart" wrote:

One thing at a time!

... my CD-ROM is not working. Went to Device Manager
and doesn't show there. Rebooted into safe mode to see if
it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal but nothing,

NB. You won't see your CD-ROM in DevMan in Safe Mode, the
drivers
are
only
loaded in Normal Mode.

However, if your not seeing it in Normal Mode, then boot
using your
WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select 'With CD-ROM support' and
see if
it
is
recognised in DOS. (It *should* report a drive letter for
your
CD-ROM
which
is not necessarily the same letter as you would expect in
Windows).

If the CD-ROM is not being recognised in DOS, you will have
to boot
into
your BIOS to confirm that it is recognised there. Have you
been
poking
about
under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

You *may* have a faulty CD-ROM of course!

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...
Hi Guys,
Have just noticed that a lot of my Files and Folders are
Greyed
out
and
am
begining to panic.I went into Windows/temp and deleted a
lot of
stuff
which I
thought were safe to remove, but now I've just discoverd
my
CD-ROM
is
not
working. Went to Device Manager and doesn't show
there.Rebooted
into
safe
mode to see if it would re-appear when I booted up in
Normal but
nothing,what
the heck have Idone.


Hi Mart,
Well did as you instructed and yes it was recognized in
"DOS" but I
had
to
restart my computer to get out of it.
This is the read out it gave me, "The Diagnostil Tools Were
Succesfully
loaded To Drive (D)"MSCDEX VERSION 2.25 Copyright (c)
Microsoft
Corp.1986-1995 "Drive E:=DriverMSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E"
The "DOS" Screen then showed this,"COR101:Not Ready Reading
Drive E

Abort,Retry,Fail,
I let this run thinking it normal,but 18hrs later,surely
not,it
would
not
let me Exit,I just hope I haven't done any damage.
This all came about while i was Un-Installing and
Re-Installing an
Anti-Virus program were i had to go into Files and Folders to
delete
Shared
and Temp Files,have I deleted something I should'nt have.






Hi Mart,
I wouldn't have a clue how to get under the bed never mind this
machine.
You're right I can't open the CD-ROM from the button at the front
of the
CPU
and the Orange light is on permanent were it's normally off or
flashing .
I deleted some files last week and this happened, so I quickly
restored
them
back and the CD-ROM worked again,weather this was a factor or
not.Was just
wondering when I was deleting those Norton Files and Temp's did I
make a
ricky somewhere.Checking through "MS,Troubleshooting" all day,and
these
Forums but only found one thing,probably has nothing to do with my
problem.
"MS" Artical ID:275499 (Troubleshooting Device Driver Issues Using
The
Driver Information Database)
"Mart" please don't think I'm trying to under-mind your efforts,not
by a
long way,us "Dummies" couldn't survive in this "Tec"world without
you
folks.
If it is a new CD-ROM I need, could you recommend a good one,I'm
from your
side of the water and price is no-matter.
Could you look into the other matter I asked about,the faded out
Files&Folders,
Thank You.













  #19  
Old January 6th 05, 10:40 PM
Mart
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mine are all -0000

And so are yours, Mikes and Joans! But not Seamey's

Mart


"Mart" wrote in message
...
I should have said - "Take a look at the 'Properties' \ 'Details' -
they (Seamey's) are all -0800"
mine are all -0000

Like you said Noel, "he's using the CDP - so has no control
of the posting time (which is not affected by local settings,
except for the Redmond server clock)"

Never noticed that affect before - always ASSumed it to be correct bg

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Hmmm - I have timestamps.....
07:37 - S
15:14 - M
next day
13:15 - S
16:47 - M
21:15 - S
23:33 - M
next day
02:03 - S
08:58 - M
15:11 - S
16:10 - M
17:25 - S
18:13 - M
( and that even removes the odd one that I though was there!)
All in logical order, no branching or whatever.......

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
**Just seen your post before pressing the Send button, Noel g -
Thanks!!**

I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!

They are ALL 8Hrs out - at least in this thread, Noel g

Mart


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
Mart - unless you've actually had an email from Seamey, he's using the
CDP - so has no control of the posting time (which is not affected by
local settings, except for the Redmond server clock)
I have no idea why one of his posts appears to have a back-timed stamp!

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Mart" wrote in message
...
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Yes... but! .. is your Time Zone correctly set to GMT : Dublin,
London,
etc., in Control Panel | Date & Time \Time Zone? You're showing 8 Hrs
behind
in your e-mail properties.

However, you have now put a whole new complexion on the issue!! You
didn't mention the DVD-RW before!!! So let's just step backwards a
little.

When booting from the floppy Startup Disk, you *should* have seen TWO
CD-ROMS, becoming the E: and the F:, so the screen *should* have
shown:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Drive F:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 1
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E

In other words, ONE of your CD-ROM drives was missing!!! (NB. although
it is a DVD, DOS only recognises it as a CD-ROM)

(Don't worry that you didn't also see a further line "Your CD-ROM Is
Drive F" - you won't.)

And!!
had (it) fitted 6months ago. When did your CD-ROM go AWOL??
Coincidence??

Back to my original question -
Have you (or anybody else!!) been poking
about under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged
any connectors?

My revised guess is that a visit back to whoever fitted your DVD
*might* be a better proposition, before you throw cash at a possibly
unnecessary new CD-ROM.

I'll cover your other problem later - first sort this one out g

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
yeah your side of the water,well almost,N.Ireland (Belfast)
My clock is set to "GMT" is that correct?

Thanks for the advice on the CD-ROM will buy one tomorrow,as for the
CD-RW,
had a new DVD-RW (Pioneer 107D) fitted 6months ago.

Thank you so very much for all your help and bearing with me,and if
you do
come up with any suggestion regarding those' Faded Files',can you
mail me,

Keep up the execellent work and may the New Year be kind to you and
all in
the Forum,

Seamey.T



"Mart" wrote:

Hi Seamey, - from my side of the water? The UK? Then your clock is 8
hrs
behind GMT (UK time) g

The fact that you cant get it to work in (Real Mode) DOS (via the
Startup
floppy Disk) means that WinMe (and your hard drive) are completely
eliminated from the equation. - Although your deletions of the
Norton files
etc. *may* raise their head later - hence one thing at a time g.

I wouldn't really recommend any specific make of CD-ROM as I think
most are
made by only a couple of manufacturers and just re-badged. Mine are
LG but
don't take that as an endorsement. Try your local PC store (PC
World?) and
see what they have to offer. You may wish to think of replacing it
with a
burner (CD-RW) but you will need suitable software.

In the meantime, I'll have a think about the 'faded folders'

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...


"Mart" wrote:

Ah... So it probably didn't even open in WinMe? (Not even using
the
button
on the front panel?)

In which case, back to my earlier comments -
Have you been poking about under the bonnet
and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

If not,
You (may) *almost certainly* have a faulty CD-ROM ...!

Substitution/replacement is the only practical solution. I would
guess
that
a new one should only be about US$25 or so - they're less than
GBP10 over
here.

Good luck with it.

Mart



"Seamey.T" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart,
Sorry for the hassle but just reading over your instructions
and can't
do
anything with the CD-ROM,the tray will not open to let me put a
Cd
in,baffled.



"Mart" wrote:

Things initially look OK there. Firstly, the CD-ROM is being
recognised
in
DOS and is being assigned a letter (E).

After things have settled down, then at the A:\ prompt, you
need to
type:-
E: (then press Return)

that should then give you an E:\ prompt. Now put a (data) CD
into
your
CD-COM and type:-
dir (then press return) [or dir /p to stop the screen
from
scrolling]

and you should see a listing of the contents of the CD.

If all is well, then you need to worry about why WinMe is not
recognising
it - come back and let us know how you get on so far and
someone
should
be
able to continue with help.

BTW - To get out of Real Mode DOS, you can either Power-off
your PC
(as
you
have now discovered g) or, remove the floppy disk and press
Ctrl+Alt+Del.
You can't directly get back into WinMe!!

....I just hope I haven't done any damage.

No, you won't have damaged anything - at least as far as this
is
concerned.

.... have I deleted something I should'nt have.

Not sure yet - see how you get on with the first part.

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...


"Mart" wrote:

One thing at a time!

... my CD-ROM is not working. Went to Device Manager
and doesn't show there. Rebooted into safe mode to see if
it would re-appear when I booted up in Normal but
nothing,

NB. You won't see your CD-ROM in DevMan in Safe Mode, the
drivers
are
only
loaded in Normal Mode.

However, if your not seeing it in Normal Mode, then boot
using your
WinMe
(floppy) Startup Disk and select 'With CD-ROM support' and
see if
it
is
recognised in DOS. (It *should* report a drive letter for
your
CD-ROM
which
is not necessarily the same letter as you would expect in
Windows).

If the CD-ROM is not being recognised in DOS, you will have
to boot
into
your BIOS to confirm that it is recognised there. Have you
been
poking
about
under the bonnet and knocked/dislodged any connectors?

You *may* have a faulty CD-ROM of course!

Mart


"Seamey.T" wrote in
message
...
Hi Guys,
Have just noticed that a lot of my Files and Folders are
Greyed
out
and
am
begining to panic.I went into Windows/temp and deleted a
lot of
stuff
which I
thought were safe to remove, but now I've just discoverd
my
CD-ROM
is
not
working. Went to Device Manager and doesn't show
there.Rebooted
into
safe
mode to see if it would re-appear when I booted up in
Normal but
nothing,what
the heck have Idone.


Hi Mart,
Well did as you instructed and yes it was recognized in
"DOS" but I
had
to
restart my computer to get out of it.
This is the read out it gave me, "The Diagnostil Tools Were
Succesfully
loaded To Drive (D)"MSCDEX VERSION 2.25 Copyright (c)
Microsoft
Corp.1986-1995 "Drive E:=DriverMSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E"
The "DOS" Screen then showed this,"COR101:Not Ready Reading
Drive E

Abort,Retry,Fail,
I let this run thinking it normal,but 18hrs later,surely
not,it
would
not
let me Exit,I just hope I haven't done any damage.
This all came about while i was Un-Installing and
Re-Installing an
Anti-Virus program were i had to go into Files and Folders
to delete
Shared
and Temp Files,have I deleted something I should'nt have.






Hi Mart,
I wouldn't have a clue how to get under the bed never mind this
machine.
You're right I can't open the CD-ROM from the button at the front
of the
CPU
and the Orange light is on permanent were it's normally off or
flashing .
I deleted some files last week and this happened, so I quickly
restored
them
back and the CD-ROM worked again,weather this was a factor or
not.Was just
wondering when I was deleting those Norton Files and Temp's did I
make a
ricky somewhere.Checking through "MS,Troubleshooting" all day,and
these
Forums but only found one thing,probably has nothing to do with my
problem.
"MS" Artical ID:275499 (Troubleshooting Device Driver Issues Using
The
Driver Information Database)
"Mart" please don't think I'm trying to under-mind your
efforts,not by a
long way,us "Dummies" couldn't survive in this "Tec"world without
you
folks.
If it is a new CD-ROM I need, could you recommend a good one,I'm
from your
side of the water and price is no-matter.
Could you look into the other matter I asked about,the faded out
Files&Folders,
Thank You.















  #20  
Old January 6th 05, 10:51 PM
Mike M
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Mart,

AFAIK the CDO clock is correct, that is once your news client applies
he -8.00 hours correction.

What you are seeing is one of the many reasons why the CDO web interface
causes so many problems to those trying to help others in the newsgroups.
Namely it hides not only the posters IP address but also by making all
posts as if made from Redmond obscures the real location of the user. Add
to that a failure to provide any details of the operating system or
version in use, such as provided in many cases by the X-Newsreader and
X-MimeOLE headers in NNTP posts, taken together it makes helping CDO
posters a bit akin to working with a bag over your head. :-) A bit
extreme perhaps but IP address can help with ISP problems, Path with news
server problems, time zone with localisation problems (such as keyboard)
and as for Mailer/MIME versions I need to make no comment.

Cheers,
--
Mike


Mart wrote:

I should have said - "Take a look at the 'Properties' \ 'Details' -
they (Seamey's) are all -0800"
mine are all -0000

Like you said Noel, "he's using the CDP - so has no control
of the posting time (which is not affected by local settings,
except for the Redmond server clock)"

Never noticed that affect before - always ASSumed it to be correct
bg


 




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