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Old November 4th 11, 02:54 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
rhodius[_2_]
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

On Nov 3, 9:10*pm, wrote:
How do you restore an older version of the registry in Windows XP?

I run Win98 on one of my computers and just had to restore an older
version of the registry after letting a reg cleaner program screw it
up. *In Win98 that is done from the Dos prompt. *But I know XP dont
have a true dos prompt, so how would you do this restore? *I dont need
to do it, just curious.

I asked in a Windows98 newsgroup (crossposted from this XP newsgorup)
and no one could answer it.

And fo the heck of it, would this also be the same method for Win2000,
Vista, and Win7? *(I also have Win2000 installed).

Thanks


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Old November 4th 11, 03:03 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Nil
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

On 03 Nov 2011, wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

How do you restore an older version of the registry in Windows XP?


"System Restore."

Search Windows' help system for deatails.

Also consider ERUNT, a third party utility for registry backup/restore.
Google will help you find it.
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Old November 4th 11, 03:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

How do you restore an older version of the registry in Windows XP?

I run Win98 on one of my computers and just had to restore an older
version of the registry after letting a reg cleaner program screw it
up. In Win98 that is done from the Dos prompt. But I know XP dont
have a true dos prompt, so how would you do this restore? I dont need
to do it, just curious.

I asked in a Windows98 newsgroup (crossposted from this XP newsgorup)
and no one could answer it.

And fo the heck of it, would this also be the same method for Win2000,
Vista, and Win7? (I also have Win2000 installed).

Thanks

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Old November 4th 11, 09:23 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

In message , Bill in Co
writes:
Nil wrote:
On 03 Nov 2011, wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

How do you restore an older version of the registry in Windows XP?


"System Restore."

Search Windows' help system for deatails.

Also consider ERUNT, a third party utility for registry backup/restore.
Google will help you find it.


To further explain:

Using ERUNT is closest to using "scanreg /restore" in Win9x, as it simply
restores the registry and its associated files.

System Restore does that and a bunch more, but often ERUNT is all you need.


In addition, SR only goes back a short time, ERUNT saves last until you
delete them.

In both cases if you screw up Windows to the extent that it won't start,
you'll need a way out of trouble: there is a way from SR I'm not that
familiar with, and for ERUNT you'll need to get to a point where you can
(get at and) run the executable it puts with the save: ERUNT's author
recommended BartPE when I asked him (if your disc is FAT rather than
NTFS a DOS boot floppy will do).
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Old November 4th 11, 11:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 08:23:57 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Bill in Co
writes:
Nil wrote:
On 03 Nov 2011, wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

How do you restore an older version of the registry in Windows XP?

"System Restore."

Search Windows' help system for deatails.

Also consider ERUNT, a third party utility for registry backup/restore.
Google will help you find it.


To further explain:

Using ERUNT is closest to using "scanreg /restore" in Win9x, as it simply
restores the registry and its associated files.

System Restore does that and a bunch more, but often ERUNT is all you need.


In addition, SR only goes back a short time, ERUNT saves last until you
delete them.

In both cases if you screw up Windows to the extent that it won't start,
you'll need a way out of trouble: there is a way from SR I'm not that
familiar with, and for ERUNT you'll need to get to a point where you can
(get at and) run the executable it puts with the save: ERUNT's author
recommended BartPE when I asked him (if your disc is FAT rather than
NTFS a DOS boot floppy will do).


You just answered one of my questions. I was wondering what a person
would do who cant boot to Windows to run this ERUNT. Booting from dos
is simple (I always have a floppy drive available too). Of course if
the HD is formatted to NTFS, I guess I'd be screwed. This is one
reason I do not want a drive with NTFS. Unfortunately I'm stuck with
one with NTFS at the moment, but that will be changed when I can
figure out how without losing the installation of XP.

The thought I have, would be to put the NTFS drive as a secondary
(slave) drive on my Win2000 computer, boot to 2000, and run ERUNT.
Dont know if that would work or not, but I know Win2000 can read NTFS,
even though I have it on a Fat32 drive, and 2000 is pretty easy to
install and use. (I like it much better than XP, even though I still
like Win98 the most). It's getting to the point we all need at least
XP for a lot of stuff, even thought I keep trying to force Win2000 to
compensate.

That ERUNT sounds simple enough when you explain it, but when I tried
to read their online manual, it quickly started to sound like Greek
(or a damn linux manual).

Thanks

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Old November 4th 11, 12:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

wrote in :

In both cases if you screw up Windows to the extent that it won't start,
you'll need a way out of trouble: there is a way from SR I'm not that
familiar with, and for ERUNT you'll need to get to a point where you can
(get at and) run the executable it puts with the save: ERUNT's author
recommended BartPE when I asked him (if your disc is FAT rather than
NTFS a DOS boot floppy will do).


You just answered one of my questions. I was wondering what a person
would do who cant boot to Windows to run this ERUNT. Booting from dos
is simple (I always have a floppy drive available too). Of course if
the HD is formatted to NTFS, I guess I'd be screwed. This is one
reason I do not want a drive with NTFS. Unfortunately I'm stuck with
one with NTFS at the moment, but that will be changed when I can
figure out how without losing the installation of XP.


ERUNT sort of convinced me, as it could mean same basic methods for all
Win32, but there is a tautology here... If we are on an NT kernel OS, we
either need FAT32 so we can boot to DOS from another drive and manage backup
files, or we need NTFS writing support. This may be untrue if the main OS can
still boot, but with a borked registry, all bets on that are off.

In other words, once you're down to a basic need to boot from another drive,
the problem is a basic disk access thing, no special need for ERUNT at all,
except to make the backups you might later have to reach via a rescue disk.

In W98, the registry editor can run in DOS with switch /C to create the
registry from a file. As it can export the entire registry to file, unlike NT
kernel OS's, there are two ways to easily handle entire regeneration of the
registry (the other being the DAT files). NT kernels may be touted as
'secure' but the cost of that security is an even greater weakness, one
particularly irritating to die-hard WXP evangelists because DOS is the only
easy or versatile way to get round it, and there is no way to do it without
rebooting. WXP's lack of DOS and its alleged need not to reboot is hardly a
strength, it'sm, based on the totally unwarranted assumption that its
registry won't ever **** up.
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Old November 4th 11, 12:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
Lostgallifreyan
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

Nil wrote in
:

The thought I have, would be to put the NTFS drive as a secondary
(slave) drive on my Win2000 computer, boot to 2000, and run ERUNT.
Dont know if that would work or not,


No, I don't believe that would work. The registry files would be
restored to the wrong location.


Could be a good basis for manual recovery though. It's another great
justification for removable drive frames.
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Old November 4th 11, 01:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
boatman312
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Default How do you restore an older version of the registry in XP?

On 11/04/11 7:45 AM, Lostgallifreyan wrote:
wrote in
:

The thought I have, would be to put the NTFS drive as a secondary
(slave) drive on my Win2000 computer, boot to 2000, and run ERUNT.
Dont know if that would work or not,


No, I don't believe that would work. The registry files would be
restored to the wrong location.


Could be a good basis for manual recovery though. It's another great
justification for removable drive frames.


If you have a second drive, that's a good excuse to image your boot
drive periodically (when it's stable). That's why I keep the OS and
programs on a separate drive from the data files.
 




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