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Old January 15th 05, 11:15 PM
Anonymous
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Default Warning Nero Burning ROM 6

Following the installation of ANY update file for updating
(the build of) Ahead's "Nero Burning ROM 6", you should
take a look at the following two options (which I found
checked by default, for instance by the installation
update file for build "6.3.1.17" and also with the
installation update file for build "6.3.1.25").

1) In Nero Burning ROM at: File/Preferences.../Expert
Features: "Enable overburn Disk-at-once burning".
The above-m_entioned update files checked this option by
default, yet this option has below it a warning, which
states:

"Warning: ... You might also damage your CD/DVD recorder.
Use this option at your own risk!"

2) In Nero Burning ROM at: New Compilation - Copy
CD/'Copy Options' tab/"Copy on the fly".
The above-mentioned update files checked this option by
default, yet this option has next to it a warning_, which
states:
"Copying with "On the fly" is risky. ..."

When I explained to "Nero Technical Support" about the
situation regarding item 1) above, their reaction was as
follows:

From: ,

To: "xxxxxxxxxxxx [xxxxxxxx]

Date: xx/xx/2004 xx:xx

[Web Support Request] Nero 6 - Case-Info:
[xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Dear xxxxxxxxxx,

thank you very much for your e-mail.

Why should it not be checked by default? I don't know no
disadvantage having it enabled.

If you have any further questions do not hesitate to
contact us again.

Best regards,

Juan Garcia-Palas
Support

Ahead Software AG
Im Stoeckmaedle 18
76307 Karlsbad
Germany
Fax: ++49 (0)7248 911 888
http://www.nero.com


  #2  
Old January 16th 05, 03:44 AM
dadiOH
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Anonymous wrote:
Following the installation of ANY update file for updating
(the build of) Ahead's "Nero Burning ROM 6", you should
take a look at the following two options (which I found
checked by default, for instance by the installation
update file for build "6.3.1.17" and also with the
installation update file for build "6.3.1.25").

1) In Nero Burning ROM at: File/Preferences.../Expert
Features: "Enable overburn Disk-at-once burning".
The above-m_entioned update files checked this option by
default, yet this option has below it a warning, which
states:

"Warning: ... You might also damage your CD/DVD recorder.
Use this option at your own risk!"


Having the option enabled doesn't mean you have to use it.

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Old January 16th 05, 05:50 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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The point was that the program had a *default* setting that on the same
page warned strongly that there was a real potential for physical damage
to hardware. That doesn't strike you as slightly ludicrous? OP went on
to say that when questioned, a rep from the company essentially
pooh-poohed the warning. More ludicrous, yet. Not that such situations
are anything like rare in this business.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"dadiOH" wrote in message
...

Having the option enabled doesn't mean you have to use it.


  #4  
Old January 16th 05, 06:10 AM
Bill in Co.
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I'll tell ya another thing that is dangerous: trying to install both InCD
and DirectCD - a general "NO NO". (If you try it you may end up with that
damn blue screen and 0E error as I recall. One time I had to do a reinstall
of windows and all programs, as I recall).

Evidently packet burning technologies have such problems (like these, oh
yeah, and also that other beauty of incompatibility between some versions),
so I just avoid them altogether. So no CDRW's or DVD RWs over here.
Just "CDWs" and "DVDWs" (so to speak) - one shot only. I guess I'm a bit
conservative in this regard.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
The point was that the program had a *default* setting that on the same
page warned strongly that there was a real potential for physical damage
to hardware. That doesn't strike you as slightly ludicrous? OP went on
to say that when questioned, a rep from the company essentially
pooh-poohed the warning. More ludicrous, yet. Not that such situations
are anything like rare in this business.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"dadiOH" wrote in message
...

Having the option enabled doesn't mean you have to use it.



  #5  
Old January 16th 05, 06:49 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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I agree. And I don't recommend such programs to my clients. Just the
opposite, I try my darndest to dissuade them.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I'll tell ya another thing that is dangerous: trying to install both

InCD
and DirectCD - a general "NO NO". (If you try it you may end up

with that
damn blue screen and 0E error as I recall. One time I had to do a

reinstall
of windows and all programs, as I recall).

Evidently packet burning technologies have such problems (like these,

oh
yeah, and also that other beauty of incompatibility between some

versions),
so I just avoid them altogether. So no CDRW's or DVD RWs over

here.
Just "CDWs" and "DVDWs" (so to speak) - one shot only. I guess I'm

a bit
conservative in this regard.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
The point was that the program had a *default* setting that on the

same
page warned strongly that there was a real potential for physical

damage
to hardware. That doesn't strike you as slightly ludicrous? OP went

on
to say that when questioned, a rep from the company essentially
pooh-poohed the warning. More ludicrous, yet. Not that such

situations
are anything like rare in this business.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"dadiOH" wrote in message
...

Having the option enabled doesn't mean you have to use it.




  #6  
Old January 16th 05, 07:33 AM
Dan
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The way you see it Gary is not to have too many devices that may conflict
with each and all want system resources -- am I at least in the ballpark of
what you mean?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: I agree. And I don't recommend such programs to my clients. Just the
: opposite, I try my darndest to dissuade them.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Bill in Co." wrote in message
: ...
: I'll tell ya another thing that is dangerous: trying to install both
: InCD
: and DirectCD - a general "NO NO". (If you try it you may end up
: with that
: damn blue screen and 0E error as I recall. One time I had to do a
: reinstall
: of windows and all programs, as I recall).
:
: Evidently packet burning technologies have such problems (like these,
: oh
: yeah, and also that other beauty of incompatibility between some
: versions),
: so I just avoid them altogether. So no CDRW's or DVD RWs over
: here.
: Just "CDWs" and "DVDWs" (so to speak) - one shot only. I guess I'm
: a bit
: conservative in this regard.
:
: Gary S. Terhune wrote:
: The point was that the program had a *default* setting that on the
: same
: page warned strongly that there was a real potential for physical
: damage
: to hardware. That doesn't strike you as slightly ludicrous? OP went
: on
: to say that when questioned, a rep from the company essentially
: pooh-poohed the warning. More ludicrous, yet. Not that such
: situations
: are anything like rare in this business.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "dadiOH" wrote in message
: ...
:
: Having the option enabled doesn't mean you have to use it.
:
:
:


  #7  
Old January 16th 05, 08:37 AM
Gary S. Terhune
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Well, that to. In this case, though, the way I see it is that InCD,
DirectCD and similar are royal PITAs. CDs or DVDs made with them are
often not compatible with other players, the whole rigmarole is more
complicated than it's worth. Save disk-bound files to a staging folder,
then burn them with more standard procedures. There are perfectly decent
mechanisms for over-writing files on regular write-only CDs--doesn't
actually overwrite, of course, it just changes the "table of contents".
But heck, it's actually better to burn them including folder structure,
and keep multiple, dated copies of revised files.

(Oh, and rewritable CDs and DVDs aren't worth the hassle, either. Not
when the write-once kind are so cheap.)

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Dan" wrote in message
...
The way you see it Gary is not to have too many devices that may

conflict
with each and all want system resources -- am I at least in the

ballpark of
what you mean?

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
: I agree. And I don't recommend such programs to my clients. Just the
: opposite, I try my darndest to dissuade them.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "Bill in Co." wrote in message
: ...
: I'll tell ya another thing that is dangerous: trying to install

both
: InCD
: and DirectCD - a general "NO NO". (If you try it you may end up
: with that
: damn blue screen and 0E error as I recall. One time I had to do a
: reinstall
: of windows and all programs, as I recall).
:
: Evidently packet burning technologies have such problems (like

these,
: oh
: yeah, and also that other beauty of incompatibility between some
: versions),
: so I just avoid them altogether. So no CDRW's or DVD RWs over
: here.
: Just "CDWs" and "DVDWs" (so to speak) - one shot only. I guess

I'm
: a bit
: conservative in this regard.
:
: Gary S. Terhune wrote:
: The point was that the program had a *default* setting that on

the
: same
: page warned strongly that there was a real potential for

physical
: damage
: to hardware. That doesn't strike you as slightly ludicrous? OP

went
: on
: to say that when questioned, a rep from the company essentially
: pooh-poohed the warning. More ludicrous, yet. Not that such
: situations
: are anything like rare in this business.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
:
: "dadiOH" wrote in message
: ...
:
: Having the option enabled doesn't mean you have to use it.
:
:
:



  #8  
Old January 16th 05, 09:05 AM
Star
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Yep Bill,
InCD, I'm just recovering from the shock!! I had been using it for
approx. 6 mos., no problems, but it can be a beast. Usually, I did my job
and, ejected the CD from menu and, would also do ctl/alt/del and ended it
too and removed it from my systray.

Right after the new yr. I left the CD in, the puter locked up hrs. later. I
was forced to manually restart, and repeatedly came up to blue 0E screens
and the CD-RW wouldn't release the CD ROM.

I did get my CD-RW out of the drive finally, but the puter wouldn't load, I
couldn't get to safe mode, just a black screen w/flashing cursur. I went to
dos and did scanreg /restore until it didn't work anymore, I rec'd only a
black screen again w/flashing cursur. However, Win. told me a good registry
was restored.

It's one of worst exp. I've had, I reinstall Windows 2 wks. ago.

It's a great technology, I was impressed...... at first, but I would warn
*CAUTION* use at *great risk*!! I'm a avid zip drive user, and it's like
having a blast of a zip drive w/all the features.

I don't feel so bad, I was embarrassed to post InCD as the culprit, but it
was also user negligence, I should of correctly dismounted the CD-RW after I
completed my job.

Star


"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
I'll tell ya another thing that is dangerous: trying to install both InCD
and DirectCD - a general "NO NO". (If you try it you may end up with

that
damn blue screen and 0E error as I recall. One time I had to do a

reinstall
of windows and all programs, as I recall).

Evidently packet burning technologies have such problems (like these, oh
yeah, and also that other beauty of incompatibility between some

versions),
so I just avoid them altogether. So no CDRW's or DVD RWs over here.
Just "CDWs" and "DVDWs" (so to speak) - one shot only. I guess I'm a

bit
conservative in this regard.

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
The point was that the program had a *default* setting that on the same
page warned strongly that there was a real potential for physical damage
to hardware. That doesn't strike you as slightly ludicrous? OP went on
to say that when questioned, a rep from the company essentially
pooh-poohed the warning. More ludicrous, yet. Not that such situations
are anything like rare in this business.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"dadiOH" wrote in message
...

Having the option enabled doesn't mean you have to use it.





  #9  
Old January 16th 05, 09:28 AM
Star
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Hi Lil Dave, (see below)
"Lil' Dave" wrote in message
...
"Anonymous" wrote in message
...
Following the installation of ANY update file for updating
(the build of) Ahead's "Nero Burning ROM 6", you should
take a look at the following two options (which I found
checked by default, for instance by the installation
update file for build "6.3.1.17" and also with the
installation update file for build "6.3.1.25").

1) In Nero Burning ROM at: File/Preferences.../Expert
Features: "Enable overburn Disk-at-once burning".
The above-m_entioned update files checked this option by
default, yet this option has below it a warning, which
states:

"Warning: ... You might also damage your CD/DVD recorder.
Use this option at your own risk!"


Almost any burner nowadays can handle overburn 800 MB and beyond.
But, the fact remains that some older burners can be physically damaged.
Think Ahead is playing the odds instead of being cautious.

2) In Nero Burning ROM at: New Compilation - Copy
CD/'Copy Options' tab/"Copy on the fly".
The above-mentioned update files checked this option by
default, yet this option has next to it a warning_, which
states:
"Copying with "On the fly" is risky. ..."


*** I have no real experience in burning CD's, my option is checked. This
thread is interesting to me. I decided to try it one day and I did choose
the *simulation* option. I thought it was real cool!! I waited, Nero s/w
told me to remove my CD, and the so call burn of my Windows 98-se CD began.
The simulation tests and verifies, that's why I chose it. The job was good,
I used that burned CD to install Windows two wks. ago. That's my only burn
job, Star


Doesn't hurt anything physically. The burn may fail if your system can't
keep up. That's simple. Nero has a simulation option to check this

before
actually using it. Most late PCs can handle this. Again, Ahead seems to

be
playing the odds instead of being cautious.

When I explained to "Nero Technical Support" about the
situation regarding item 1) above, their reaction was as
follows:

From: ,

To: "xxxxxxxxxxxx [xxxxxxxx]

Date: xx/xx/2004 xx:xx

[Web Support Request] Nero 6 - Case-Info:
[xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Dear xxxxxxxxxx,

thank you very much for your e-mail.

Why should it not be checked by default? I don't know no
disadvantage having it enabled.

If you have any further questions do not hesitate to
contact us again.

Best regards,

Juan Garcia-Palas
Support

Ahead Software AG
Im Stoeckmaedle 18
76307 Karlsbad
Germany
Fax: ++49 (0)7248 911 888
http://www.nero.com



Feign ignorance, deny everything. So, what else is "new" from Germany?




  #10  
Old January 16th 05, 11:05 AM
Lil' Dave
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"Anonymous" wrote in message
...
Following the installation of ANY update file for updating
(the build of) Ahead's "Nero Burning ROM 6", you should
take a look at the following two options (which I found
checked by default, for instance by the installation
update file for build "6.3.1.17" and also with the
installation update file for build "6.3.1.25").

1) In Nero Burning ROM at: File/Preferences.../Expert
Features: "Enable overburn Disk-at-once burning".
The above-m_entioned update files checked this option by
default, yet this option has below it a warning, which
states:

"Warning: ... You might also damage your CD/DVD recorder.
Use this option at your own risk!"


Almost any burner nowadays can handle overburn 800 MB and beyond.
But, the fact remains that some older burners can be physically damaged.
Think Ahead is playing the odds instead of being cautious.

2) In Nero Burning ROM at: New Compilation - Copy
CD/'Copy Options' tab/"Copy on the fly".
The above-mentioned update files checked this option by
default, yet this option has next to it a warning_, which
states:
"Copying with "On the fly" is risky. ..."


Doesn't hurt anything physically. The burn may fail if your system can't
keep up. That's simple. Nero has a simulation option to check this before
actually using it. Most late PCs can handle this. Again, Ahead seems to be
playing the odds instead of being cautious.

When I explained to "Nero Technical Support" about the
situation regarding item 1) above, their reaction was as
follows:

From: ,

To: "xxxxxxxxxxxx [xxxxxxxx]

Date: xx/xx/2004 xx:xx

[Web Support Request] Nero 6 - Case-Info:
[xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Dear xxxxxxxxxx,

thank you very much for your e-mail.

Why should it not be checked by default? I don't know no
disadvantage having it enabled.

If you have any further questions do not hesitate to
contact us again.

Best regards,

Juan Garcia-Palas
Support

Ahead Software AG
Im Stoeckmaedle 18
76307 Karlsbad
Germany
Fax: ++49 (0)7248 911 888
http://www.nero.com



Feign ignorance, deny everything. So, what else is "new" from Germany?


 




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