Last Rites for Win9x

I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in case...

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end. After
this date, incident support, security updates and Custom Support
Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for details.

* On June 30, 2006, assisted support for Windows 98, Windows 98
Second Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end.
* After this date, Microsoft will no longer provide any incident
support options or security updates. Microsoft is not offering a Custom
Support Agreement for these products.
* Online Support Content will continue to be available through
the Microsoft Support Product Solution Center Websites. This website
will continue to host a wealth of previous How-to, Troubleshooting and
Configuration content for anyone who may need self-service access to
this information. (http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=hub)
* Additional information on the support lifecycle of Windows 98,
Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows Me can be located at:
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifean1 and
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx
* Microsoft continues to encourage all customers to upgrade to
Windows XP to achieve the highest possible level of security. Customers
will benefit and stay secure on Windows XP with many of its improved
security and protection features.
* Customers that are not able to obtain Windows XP based
versions of their applications are able to run these older applications
in Windows 98 compatibility mode within Windows XP
* Customers should visit the Windows XP Resource Kit
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...XP/all/reskit/
en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-
us/prba_dwp_ogli.asp to find out more information about migration to
Windows XP. This assistance resource helps customers understand the
requirements and Application Compatibility implications of migrating
from Windows 98/ME to XP.
Q. What does Microsoft mean when it says it is ending support for
Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows ME?
A. This means that after June 30, 2006, transitioning these products to
a non-supported status means that assisted support, including security
updates, will end. After this date, Microsoft will no longer provide any
incident support options or security updates.

(however, Online Support Content will continue to be available through
the Microsoft Support Product Solution Center Websites. This website
will continue to host a wealth of previous How-to, Troubleshooting and
Configuration content for anyone who may need self-service access to
this information. These Product Solution Center websites can be found at
http://support.microsoft.com http://support.microsoft.com/ )


Q. Why should I consider moving to a newer Windows operating system
version?
A. Customers should consider moving to the most recent version of
Windows, such as Windows XP, for the following reasons
* Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows ME are
products that are no longer suitable for the security demands of today's
internet environments.
* Customers will benefit and stay secure on Windows XP with many
of its improved security and protection features.
* Customers that are not able to obtain Windows XP based
versions of their applications are able to run these older applications
in Windows 98 compatibility mode within Windows XP
* Microsoft is not offering a Custom Support Agreement for these
products.


Q. Why is this announcement so sudden?
This announcement is not a last minute announcement. As early as
December 2002, we had announced an original end-of-support date for
Windows 98, 98SE and ME for January 2003. We later extended the
end-of-support date to June 2006 to allow customers enough time to
migrate to a new and updated Windows operating system in order to
continue receiving security and hotfix support. This last wave of
communications is a final reminder for those who have postponed or
delayed migrating from Windows 98 or Windows ME to Windows XP to finally
put their plans into action.

Q. Why will Microsoft no longer provide public security support for
Windows 98 and Windows ME?
The importance of a secure computing platform has never been greater.
Over the past decade, security vulnerabilities that could not have been
anticipated have emerged. Microsoft has responded with new design
methodologies, coding practices and test procedures. These enhancements
are included in new platforms such as Windows XP and even more enhanced
in the upcoming release of Windows Vista. These newer platforms offer
our customers a far greater level of security than is possible with
Windows 98 and Windows ME. You need to remember that Windows 98 and
Windows ME were developed before the era of sophisticated Internet based
attacks. These products have reached the point of architectural
obsolescence. It would be irresponsible to convey a false sense of
security by extending public support for these old products.

Q. Will there be 3rd parties that can continue supporting my
installations of Windows 98?
There are still multiple companies in the market today that are able to
provide for-fee configuration support for Windows 98 and Windows ME
computers. They do not, however, have access to the code base to be
able to create hotfix and security fixes. The absence of the critical
types of support components from their capabilities should encourage
customers to quickly migrate to more up-to-date versions of Microsoft
Windows.

Also, Online Support Content will continue to be available through the
Microsoft Support Product Solution Center Websites. This website will
continue to host a wealth of previous How-to, Troubleshooting and
Configuration content for anyone who may need self-service access to
this information. These Product Solution Center websites can be found at
http://support.microsoft.com http://support.microsoft.com/


Q. What resources does Microsoft offer to companies or individuals that
have yet to migrate to a newer Windows operating system?
Customers who are able to access the internet should visit the Windows
XP Resource Kit
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d...XP/all/reskit/
en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-
us/prba_dwp_ogli.asp to find out more information about migration to
Windows XP. This assistance resource helps customers understand the
requirements and Application Compatibility implications of migrating
from Windows 98/ME to XP.

Out of curiousity, how many security updates did Microsoft actually
produce for Win98 in recent years?


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in case...

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end. After
this date, incident support, security updates and Custom Support
Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for details.
[...]

Quite a few since the CD was released, particularly if you've kept up with
IE updates, WMP updates, maybe a couple of others. Maybe a dozen or more. If
I have to do a clean install this weekend, which may be the case, I'll find
out. My routine is to install 98SE, then run the SecUp CD, then head for
Windows Updates.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

wrote in message
ups.com...
Out of curiousity, how many security updates did Microsoft actually
produce for Win98 in recent years?


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in case...

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end. After
this date, incident support, security updates and Custom Support
Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for details.
[...]

or maybe over to these guys...
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4131.html
(I've got Win2K waiting in the wings but hopefully such a radical lifestyle
change won't be necessary).

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Quite a few since the CD was released, particularly if you've kept up
with IE updates, WMP updates, maybe a couple of others. Maybe a dozen
or more. If I have to do a clean install this weekend, which may be
the case, I'll find out. My routine is to install 98SE, then run the
SecUp CD, then head for Windows Updates.

wrote in message
ups.com...
Out of curiousity, how many security updates did Microsoft actually
produce for Win98 in recent years?


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in
case...

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end.
After this date, incident support, security updates and Custom
Support Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for
details. [...]

My own experience is that if your system can handle it easily, move to
WinXP. Learning the NT system on Win2K can be daunting. With XP, it's quite
a bit more idiot-proofed -- which in this case is a good thing.

Or hobble along until Vista has the kinks worked out, then buy a spanking
new system. Myself, while I'll remain a Win98 MVP forever (God Willing) I
hope to move into Vista Support later this year, also.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"Roger Fink" wrote in message
...
or maybe over to these guys...
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4131.html
(I've got Win2K waiting in the wings but hopefully such a radical
lifestyle
change won't be necessary).

Gary S. Terhune wrote:
Quite a few since the CD was released, particularly if you've kept up
with IE updates, WMP updates, maybe a couple of others. Maybe a dozen
or more. If I have to do a clean install this weekend, which may be
the case, I'll find out. My routine is to install 98SE, then run the
SecUp CD, then head for Windows Updates.

wrote in message
ups.com...
Out of curiousity, how many security updates did Microsoft actually
produce for Win98 in recent years?


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in
case...

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end.
After this date, incident support, security updates and Custom
Support Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for
details. [...]

And let us not forget this goodie from about 2½ years ago.
http://mvps.org/PracticallyNerded/Wi...98/98Death.htm
--
George
"Gary S. Terhune" wrote in message
...
| My own experience is that if your system can handle it easily, move to
| WinXP. Learning the NT system on Win2K can be daunting. With XP, it's quite
| a bit more idiot-proofed -- which in this case is a good thing.
|
| Or hobble along until Vista has the kinks worked out, then buy a spanking
| new system. Myself, while I'll remain a Win98 MVP forever (God Willing) I
| hope to move into Vista Support later this year, also.
|
| --
| Gary S. Terhune
| MS MVP Shell/User
|
|

Roger Fink wrote:
or maybe over to these guys...
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4131.html


I've heard of this "unoffical patch " before, but hesitated.

My W98SE has always worked very reliably on a P166, minimal patches installed.

Is this update:

A. Necessary (note above)

B. Safe for the average user?

C. Safe for an older computer?

TIA

MS

Gary,
I show 22 since the release of the Security Update CD(Feb.2004).
Listed:

KB833989
KB896688
KB904706
Virt.Mach.816093
KB873374
KB888113
KB891711
KB891781
KB896358
OUT.EXP.KB837009
NET.FRAME. 1.1
IE NAV.SOUND 319303
IDE HARD DRIVE
MAP DRIVE SHUTDOWN Q260067
EURO CONVERSION TOOL
KB840315 - CONTAINS MULTI UPDATES
Q832894
KB889253
KB896727
KB905915
KB908519
WMP9-KB885492

This is what my 2 machines need. It may be different for various machines
taking in consideration of possibly driver updates.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Quite a few since the CD was released, particularly if you've kept up with
IE updates, WMP updates, maybe a couple of others. Maybe a dozen or more. If
I have to do a clean install this weekend, which may be the case, I'll find
out. My routine is to install 98SE, then run the SecUp CD, then head for
Windows Updates.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

wrote in message
ups.com...
Out of curiousity, how many security updates did Microsoft actually
produce for Win98 in recent years?


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in case...

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end. After
this date, incident support, security updates and Custom Support
Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for details.
[...]

I'll be doing that install today or tomorrow, and I'll check, too.

Also going to see if I can determine the answer to that other question about
what 98 Gold Updates are subsumed into 98SE, but that's a trickier question.
There's a difference between incorporating an update and replacing the
mudule that needed updating in the first place, probably with an even better
result. Haven't let myself start thinking seriously about it yet, since I'm
sure it will make my already shaky mental faculties start trembling.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"poatt" wrote in message
...
Gary,
I show 22 since the release of the Security Update CD(Feb.2004).
Listed:

KB833989
KB896688
KB904706
Virt.Mach.816093
KB873374
KB888113
KB891711
KB891781
KB896358
OUT.EXP.KB837009
NET.FRAME. 1.1
IE NAV.SOUND 319303
IDE HARD DRIVE
MAP DRIVE SHUTDOWN Q260067
EURO CONVERSION TOOL
KB840315 - CONTAINS MULTI UPDATES
Q832894
KB889253
KB896727
KB905915
KB908519
WMP9-KB885492

This is what my 2 machines need. It may be different for various machines
taking in consideration of possibly driver updates.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Quite a few since the CD was released, particularly if you've kept up
with
IE updates, WMP updates, maybe a couple of others. Maybe a dozen or
more. If
I have to do a clean install this weekend, which may be the case, I'll
find
out. My routine is to install 98SE, then run the SecUp CD, then head for
Windows Updates.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

wrote in message
ups.com...
Out of curiousity, how many security updates did Microsoft actually
produce for Win98 in recent years?


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in
case...

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end.
After
this date, incident support, security updates and Custom Support
Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for
details.
[...]

I am checking out the one PCR listed. But it looks like it is for XP.
I may have missed an update to Netframework 1.1.
So there may be 23 or if PCR is right ...24.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

I'll be doing that install today or tomorrow, and I'll check, too.

Also going to see if I can determine the answer to that other question about
what 98 Gold Updates are subsumed into 98SE, but that's a trickier question.
There's a difference between incorporating an update and replacing the
mudule that needed updating in the first place, probably with an even better
result. Haven't let myself start thinking seriously about it yet, since I'm
sure it will make my already shaky mental faculties start trembling.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

"poatt" wrote in message
...
Gary,
I show 22 since the release of the Security Update CD(Feb.2004).
Listed:

KB833989
KB896688
KB904706
Virt.Mach.816093
KB873374
KB888113
KB891711
KB891781
KB896358
OUT.EXP.KB837009
NET.FRAME. 1.1
IE NAV.SOUND 319303
IDE HARD DRIVE
MAP DRIVE SHUTDOWN Q260067
EURO CONVERSION TOOL
KB840315 - CONTAINS MULTI UPDATES
Q832894
KB889253
KB896727
KB905915
KB908519
WMP9-KB885492

This is what my 2 machines need. It may be different for various machines
taking in consideration of possibly driver updates.

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

Quite a few since the CD was released, particularly if you've kept up
with
IE updates, WMP updates, maybe a couple of others. Maybe a dozen or
more. If
I have to do a clean install this weekend, which may be the case, I'll
find
out. My routine is to install 98SE, then run the SecUp CD, then head for
Windows Updates.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

wrote in message
ups.com...
Out of curiousity, how many security updates did Microsoft actually
produce for Win98 in recent years?


Gary S. Terhune wrote:
I assume someone already posted this at least once. But just in
case...

Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User

(MS Official Announcement and FAQs)

Effective June 30, 2006, support for Windows 98, Windows 98 Second
Edition and Windows Me (and their related components) will end.
After
this date, incident support, security updates and Custom Support
Agreement will no longer be available to the public. Visit
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sup...ofsupport.mspx for
details.
[...]