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Old April 9th 18, 08:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

Windows 98se

I have a lot of icons on my desktop. Every once and awhile they get all
jumbled up, and it takes me nearly an hour to straighten them up. I have
a specific order I have them so I can find them quickly. I have never
figured how they get messed up and probably never will....

What file and where is the setting for the icons? What I want to do is
just backup that file so I can replace it when the desktop gets messed
up. There is supposedly some setting to lock the desktop, but I have
never found it, and if it does exist, I'd still like to backup whatever
file has the icon settings, just in case!

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Old April 10th 18, 12:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 1:18:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Windows 98se

I have a lot of icons on my desktop. Every once and awhile they get all
jumbled up, and it takes me nearly an hour to straighten them up. I have
a specific order I have them so I can find them quickly. I have never
figured how they get messed up and probably never will....

What file and where is the setting for the icons? What I want to do is
just backup that file so I can replace it when the desktop gets messed
up. There is supposedly some setting to lock the desktop, but I have
never found it, and if it does exist, I'd still like to backup whatever
file has the icon settings, just in case!


That data is stored in the registry as encoded information, you can try to save System.dat and user.dat which are the registry files and attempt to reapply them in DOS mode, but changes done since the last save for the rest of the machine means you might have some programs installed anymore.

A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162
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Old April 10th 18, 01:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

Hello anonymous,

What file and where is the setting for the icons?


Although its not directly talking about Win98, I don't think it could hurt
to take a peek he

https://superuser.com/questions/6258...sitions#630734

, in particular the registry path:

They are located in the registry under
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\1\Deskt op.

The key that should interest you is the ItemPosXXXxXXX
(where XXX is your resolution).


(HKCU = HKEY_CURRENT_USER)

If its there you could save the whole "desktop" subtree, but also just
one-or-more of those "ItemPosXXXxXXX" keys.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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Old April 10th 18, 06:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

In message , Lee
writes:
On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 1:18:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Windows 98se

I have a lot of icons on my desktop. Every once and awhile they get all
jumbled up, and it takes me nearly an hour to straighten them up. I have
a specific order I have them so I can find them quickly. I have never
figured how they get messed up and probably never will....


I don't think any of us have, definitively.
[]
That data is stored in the registry as encoded information, you can try
to save System.dat and user.dat which are the registry files and
attempt to reapply them in DOS mode, but changes done since the last
save for the rest of the machine means you might have some programs
installed anymore.

A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you
can't see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but
works well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162


The utility I used - I think all the way back to '9x - was EZDesk, by
Melissa Nguyen - abandonware (so you can't pay for it), but still works,
and still downloadable from various places (watch you don't get PUPs
with it: the /zip should be about 84KB) - certainly in XP, and I think
in '98 (it's certainly old enough).

More recent ones include iconoid and DesktopOK, but I'm not sure those
work in '9x.
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Old April 11th 18, 02:50 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Lee
wrote:

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 1:18:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Windows 98se

I have a lot of icons on my desktop. Every once and awhile they get all
jumbled up, and it takes me nearly an hour to straighten them up. I have
a specific order I have them so I can find them quickly. I have never
figured how they get messed up and probably never will....

What file and where is the setting for the icons? What I want to do is
just backup that file so I can replace it when the desktop gets messed
up. There is supposedly some setting to lock the desktop, but I have
never found it, and if it does exist, I'd still like to backup whatever
file has the icon settings, just in case!


That data is stored in the registry as encoded information, you can try to save
System.dat and user.dat which are the registry files and attempt to reapply them
in DOS mode, but changes done since the last save for the rest of the machine
means you might have some programs installed anymore.

A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't see it
here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162


Ok, if it's in the registry, I can use reg - restore. Since this icon
messup just happens instanntly, I can restore the reg. a lot faster than
I can rearrange all the icons. That way there is little chance of
anything getting messed up unless I just installed some program that
day. I turn the computer off every night, so any changes would just be a
one day event.

Yes, i have copied the reg files too, and restored them from DOS. That
also works.

I am reading that weblink right now (above). It looks like that is more
for XP and Win7, but I have not yet read all of it..

Thanks


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Old April 11th 18, 04:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Lee
wrote:


A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't
see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162


This link is poor. Using my Win98 with firefox 3.x on dialup, It took a
half hour to load, gave me a security error and when I finally got to
the page, there was no download link to click on. (It's a cnet page).

http://www.midiox.com/

But they did list the above webpage, which is the author's site. I
clicked on it, it loaded in seconds and clicking on "Desktop Restore"
took me right to the downloads. There are 6 versions of it. The bottom
one is for Win98. The others are for XP up to Win10. Some are 64 bit.
Dont waste your time with cnet, and the extreme amount of ads they bloat
you with. Go directly to the site I posted.

--
Now that I got the file, I'll try it. But have not done so yet.

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Old April 11th 18, 05:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

In message ,
writes:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Lee
wrote:


A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't
see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works
well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162

This link is poor. Using my Win98 with firefox 3.x on dialup, It took a
half hour to load, gave me a security error and when I finally got to
the page, there was no download link to click on. (It's a cnet page).

http://www.midiox.com/

But they did list the above webpage, which is the author's site. I
clicked on it, it loaded in seconds and clicking on "Desktop Restore"
took me right to the downloads. There are 6 versions of it. The bottom
one is for Win98. The others are for XP up to Win10. Some are 64 bit.
Dont waste your time with cnet, and the extreme amount of ads they bloat
you with. Go directly to the site I posted.

--
Now that I got the file, I'll try it. But have not done so yet.

The one I recommended - sorry, I hadn't realised there's an actual desk
called EZDesk, so the software is harder to find. I found a copy at
http://www.5star-shareware.com/Windo...es/ezdesk.html
(don't worry about mention of $15: the trial version works for ever; I
actually decided I wanted to pay for it a few years ago as I'd used it
far longer than I should have, but all the real links have gone). And it
does work on 98 - even 95.
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Old April 11th 18, 11:05 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:37:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 04:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Lee
wrote:


A better solution was recently discussed just a few post back. If you can't
see it here is the link that provides a fix issued for NT4 but works
well for 98 too.
http://stevehealy.org/techblog/?p=162


This link is poor. Using my Win98 with firefox 3.x on dialup, It took a
half hour to load, gave me a security error and when I finally got to
the page, there was no download link to click on. (It's a cnet page).

http://www.midiox.com/

But they did list the above webpage, which is the author's site. I
clicked on it, it loaded in seconds and clicking on "Desktop Restore"
took me right to the downloads. There are 6 versions of it. The bottom
one is for Win98. The others are for XP up to Win10. Some are 64 bit.
Dont waste your time with cnet, and the extreme amount of ads they bloat
you with. Go directly to the site I posted.

--
Now that I got the file, I'll try it. But have not done so yet.

The one I recommended - sorry, I hadn't realised there's an actual desk
called EZDesk, so the software is harder to find. I found a copy at
http://www.5star-shareware.com/Windo...es/ezdesk.html
(don't worry about mention of $15: the trial version works for ever; I
actually decided I wanted to pay for it a few years ago as I'd used it
far longer than I should have, but all the real links have gone). And it
does work on 98 - even 95.


Unfortunately the download is gone too. The page is there at the link
you posted, but clicking on the download button brings up another page,
then there is an error saying the download is not there.

Do you have the original install file? If you do, is there some place on
the web you can stick it for downloading? Like a personal website or
something. It's a very small file. 83kb.


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Old April 11th 18, 01:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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[icon position saving/restoring]

In message ,
writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:37:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[]
The one I recommended - sorry, I hadn't realised there's an actual desk
called EZDesk, so the software is harder to find. I found a copy at
http://www.5star-shareware.com/Windo...tUtilities/ezd
esk.html
(don't worry about mention of $15: the trial version works for ever; I
actually decided I wanted to pay for it a few years ago as I'd used it
far longer than I should have, but all the real links have gone). And it
does work on 98 - even 95.


Unfortunately the download is gone too. The page is there at the link
you posted, but clicking on the download button brings up another page,
then there is an error saying the download is not there.

Do you have the original install file? If you do, is there some place on
the web you can stick it for downloading? Like a personal website or
something. It's a very small file. 83kb.


http://contents.driverguide.com/cont...K%2FREADME.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB)
http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-do...19.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so
obviously has PUPs or worse; Server 2 was 85K. Or that was the case just
now)
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Old April 12th 18, 08:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:41:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[icon position saving/restoring]

In message ,
writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 05:37:13 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[]
The one I recommended - sorry, I hadn't realised there's an actual desk
called EZDesk, so the software is harder to find. I found a copy at
http://www.5star-shareware.com/Windo...tUtilities/ezd
esk.html
(don't worry about mention of $15: the trial version works for ever; I
actually decided I wanted to pay for it a few years ago as I'd used it
far longer than I should have, but all the real links have gone). And it
does work on 98 - even 95.


Unfortunately the download is gone too. The page is there at the link
you posted, but clicking on the download button brings up another page,
then there is an error saying the download is not there.

Do you have the original install file? If you do, is there some place on
the web you can stick it for downloading? Like a personal website or
something. It's a very small file. 83kb.


http://contents.driverguide.com/cont...1&path=WINDOWS

%2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK%2FR EADME.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB)
http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-do...19.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so
obviously has PUPs or worse; Server 2 was 85K. Or that was the case just
now)


Thanks

The driverguide one refused to let me download. Their idiotic captcha
said I need to upgrade my browser. I kindly filpped them the bird, used
the best of my collection of F-words and moved on. (I'll add them to my
HOST file later on, so I dont have to waste another 10 min waiting for
their useless site to load).

Server 2 on brothersoft worked fine. I installed it, and like it a lot.
I saved my desktop. Then I intentionally screwed it up my icons. I
clicked Restore and it was all fixed. COOL!!! A Great program! I should
have had this years ago. What i have is ver 1.8 and am using it on
Win98se with Kernel-EX..


 




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