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Old April 12th 18, 10:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_2_]
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:41:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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http://contents.driverguide.com/cont...1&path=WINDOWS
%2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK%2F README.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB)
http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-do...19.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so
obviously has PUPs or worse; Server 2 was 85K. Or that was the case just
now)


Thanks

The driverguide one refused to let me download. Their idiotic captcha
said I need to upgrade my browser. I kindly filpped them the bird, used
the best of my collection of F-words and moved on. (I'll add them to my
HOST file later on, so I dont have to waste another 10 min waiting for
their useless site to load).


I didn't want to recommend them - sites with "driver" in the name are
generally at best a waste of time IMO, possibly worse - but they were
the first one I found that actually had the file.

Server 2 on brothersoft worked fine. I installed it, and like it a lot.
I saved my desktop. Then I intentionally screwed it up my icons. I
clicked Restore and it was all fixed. COOL!!! A Great program! I should
have had this years ago. What i have is ver 1.8 and am using it on
Win98se with Kernel-EX..


It works without Kernel-EX as well. I like it too: does what it says on
the tin, as we say, without any fuss (and you can store an arrangement
for each resolution, too), and works under XP too. Not, sadly, 7 -
either iconoid or DesktopOK are my choices here. The one _theoretical_
disadvantage of EZDesk (1.8 was I think the last version) is that it
still stores its settings in the registry; the only one that I know
actually stores the settings in a file is
https://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/DesktopOK - I'm not sure if
that works under '98, though there is _a_ mention of 98 on that page.
But I never found EZDesk storing its settings in the registry to
actually cause a problem.
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Old April 13th 18, 12:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:43:46 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:41:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[]
http://contents.driverguide.com/cont...1&path=WINDOWS

%2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK%2 FREADME.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB)
http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-do...19.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so
obviously has PUPs or worse; Server 2 was 85K. Or that was the case just
now)


Thanks

The driverguide one refused to let me download. Their idiotic captcha
said I need to upgrade my browser. I kindly filpped them the bird, used
the best of my collection of F-words and moved on. (I'll add them to my
HOST file later on, so I dont have to waste another 10 min waiting for
their useless site to load).


I didn't want to recommend them - sites with "driver" in the name are
generally at best a waste of time IMO, possibly worse - but they were
the first one I found that actually had the file.

I agree about the sutes with the word "driver" being useless. I've run
across them far too many times. There is no reason on earth that a
captcha is needed to download a file.


Server 2 on brothersoft worked fine. I installed it, and like it a lot.
I saved my desktop. Then I intentionally screwed it up my icons. I
clicked Restore and it was all fixed. COOL!!! A Great program! I should
have had this years ago. What i have is ver 1.8 and am using it on
Win98se with Kernel-EX..


It works without Kernel-EX as well. I like it too: does what it says on
the tin, as we say, without any fuss (and you can store an arrangement
for each resolution, too), and works under XP too. Not, sadly, 7 -
either iconoid or DesktopOK are my choices here. The one _theoretical_
disadvantage of EZDesk (1.8 was I think the last version) is that it
still stores its settings in the registry; the only one that I know
actually stores the settings in a file is
https://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/DesktopOK - I'm not sure if
that works under '98, though there is _a_ mention of 98 on that page.
But I never found EZDesk storing its settings in the registry to
actually cause a problem.


I didnt thing Kernel-Ex was needed.
So the settings are in the registry. I was wondering where.
Actually I have yet to find where the program got installed to. It's not
in Program Files. I deleted the install TEMP folder. (But saved the
original download). So where did it go?

I should mention that this file should be required before installing
Opera (browser). I dont know how many times I tried different versions
of Opera, and every time my desktop got all messed up. One reason I quit
even trying Opera, but that was many years ago. I never liked Opera
anyhow.

I got a laugh reading the "how to register" text file. It says you can
buy it on a 3.5" floppy. Ya never hear that anymore. Heck, it's hard to
even find blank floppies these days. This Win98 machine is the only
computer I have that still has a floppy drive. If I need something from
a floppy on my newer computers, I just stick the floppy in the 98
machine and dump the contents to a flash drive.

I still remember when I had Windows 3.1 and had two 40 meg hard drives
in it. Then I backed it up on floppy. I had to feed about 55 floppies in
that drive to complete the backup. What a pain....
And to think, one youtube video can easily be 80 megs these days.



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Old April 13th 18, 01:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
J. P. Gilliver (John)[_2_]
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

In message ,
writes:
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 10:43:46 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message ,
writes:
On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:41:59 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

[]
http://contents.driverguide.com/cont...1&path=WINDOWS
%2FDESKTOP%2Flooney%2FTOOLS%2FWINDOWS%2FEZDESK% 2FREADME.TXT
has version 1.7 (78.5 KB)
http://www.brothersoft.com/ezdesk-do...19.html?bottom
has version 1.8 (NOT "Server 1 Official Download" - that's over 3M, so

[]
[]
I didn't want to recommend them - sites with "driver" in the name are
generally at best a waste of time IMO, possibly worse - but they were
the first one I found that actually had the file.

I agree about the sutes with the word "driver" being useless. I've run
across them far too many times. There is no reason on earth that a
captcha is needed to download a file.

It's not their uselessness as a site, it's that - if you _are_ looking
for a driver - they come up a lot in the search results, but hardly ever
have the driver you're looking for - but pretend they do, and instead
what you download is some sort of universal driver searcher/maintainer
utility, usually badly written, that will at best fail to find the
driver for the hardware you want, but is more likely to actually break
your computer - I think mainly just through being sloppily coded, though
I wouldn't be at all surprised if some are actually malware.

Server 2 on brothersoft worked fine. I installed it, and like it a lot.
I saved my desktop. Then I intentionally screwed it up my icons. I
clicked Restore and it was all fixed. COOL!!! A Great program! I should

Yes!
have had this years ago. What i have is ver 1.8 and am using it on
Win98se with Kernel-EX..


It works without Kernel-EX as well. I like it too: does what it says on

[]
https://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/DesktopOK - I'm not sure if
that works under '98, though there is _a_ mention of 98 on that page.
But I never found EZDesk storing its settings in the registry to
actually cause a problem.


I didnt thing Kernel-Ex was needed.
So the settings are in the registry. I was wondering where.
Actually I have yet to find where the program got installed to. It's not
in Program Files. I deleted the install TEMP folder. (But saved the
original download). So where did it go?


Now you mention it, I vaguely remember it using an odd place. If
"Everything" doesn't work under '98 (I think it doesn't), then I guess
"dir /s EZ*.*" (from C:\) is your friend!

I should mention that this file should be required before installing
Opera (browser). I dont know how many times I tried different versions
of Opera, and every time my desktop got all messed up. One reason I quit
even trying Opera, but that was many years ago. I never liked Opera
anyhow.


Last time I looked at Opera it wasn't free, so I think that makes is a
_very_ long time ago; from what I could tell it was also quirky, but
that's not necessarily bad, just different. Different _can_ be good,
though has to justify itself (I am getting increasingly dissatisfied
with the way Brother's Keeper - the genealogy software I use - doesn't
do things the way most other software does; those "norms" hadn't been
established when BK started, so it wasn't wrong then, but continuing to
plough its own furrow increasingly needs to be justified: having to
constantly remind yourself "no, to do that in _this_ prog., you have to
do it like this rather than how everything else these days does it" gets
tedious, _unless_ there's actually an _advantage_ to doing things their
way [which for most of the anomalies in BK, there isn't]).

I got a laugh reading the "how to register" text file. It says you can
buy it on a 3.5" floppy. Ya never hear that anymore. Heck, it's hard to
even find blank floppies these days. This Win98 machine is the only
computer I have that still has a floppy drive. If I need something from
a floppy on my newer computers, I just stick the floppy in the 98
machine and dump the contents to a flash drive.


Yes, my 98SElite/XP (boot choice) machine still has one (both sizes!),
but I haven't powered it for months. Actually, I do have a USB floppy
drive, but haven't used it since I acquired it.

I still remember when I had Windows 3.1 and had two 40 meg hard drives
in it. Then I backed it up on floppy. I had to feed about 55 floppies in
that drive to complete the backup. What a pain....


At least you _could_ just back it all up by copying, unlike XP and
beyond which really need imaging.

And to think, one youtube video can easily be 80 megs these days.

And the rest! I have some videos that are in the high hundreds, and HD
movie enthusiasts must go into the tens of gigs most of the time (even
an SD one is a few gigs). Yes, my first actual PC had either a 40 or 80M
(can't remember - think 80). But if we're getting into Yorkshiremen
Sketch territory, the first computer I actually learnt on had a memory
of 16. (No, not 16K.) That taught you _really_ compact programming (-:

[Weird machine: 7 bit, ones (rather than twos) complement arithmetic,
serial processing (max. ~ 100 kHz, IIRR) ...]

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Radio Times, 7-13 June, 2003.
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Old April 15th 18, 03:59 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion
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Default Where are the desktop icon settings stored in 98se?

On Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:40:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
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And the rest! I have some videos that are in the high hundreds, and HD
movie enthusiasts must go into the tens of gigs most of the time (even
an SD one is a few gigs). Yes, my first actual PC had either a 40 or 80M
(can't remember - think 80). But if we're getting into Yorkshiremen
Sketch territory, the first computer I actually learnt on had a memory
of 16. (No, not 16K.) That taught you _really_ compact programming (-:

[Weird machine: 7 bit, ones (rather than twos) complement arithmetic,
serial processing (max. ~ 100 kHz, IIRR) ...]

3


My first computer had no hard drive at all. I added a 10 meg drive,
which cost me around $150 for a USED drive. It did not fit in the case,
so I had it attached to the outside with some hardware brackets.
It was pretty amazing being able to boot up to Dos without inserting a
floppy. The built in monitor was black on amber only. Eventually I
bought a 3 color monitor, and I had to pay some computer shop to make it
work. I later learned they installed a video card. Then 3 color monitors
had a horrid picture, but it was a step above black& while (Amber and
black in my case).

Eventually I got a 286, with VGA color and a lot more speed. Then came
Windows 3.....

I can and do still back up my Win98 machine by simply copying the files.

I have found a way to backup XP by copying everything except the Windows
folder and the Documents & Settings folders. I make a point of NOT
keeping personal data in the D&S folder. Once and awhile I do back up
the D&S folder and Windows folder by booting from a flash drive with
Puppy Linux. Thats the only thing I use Linux for, but it works for
copying those two folders which you cant copy any other way.

I have never used any OS newer than XP, and really dont want to.
Although I'd probably give Win7 a whirl if it was free. But I have no
intent of ever using Win 8 or 10. (or Vista).



 




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