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Old July 21st 04, 03:51 PM
Michele Dondi
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Hi everybody,

someone may remeber me having huge difficulties upgrading 98 to 98SE:
eventually I managed to do a fresh install of the latter (on another
HD). Since I wanted to upgrade in the first place, now I'd like to
import at least some of the main settings from the old OS to the new
one.

As far as the installed sw is concerned, of course I'll do that
manually, but I'd prefer to automatically import the settings relating
to visual appearance, remote access connections etc.

For one thing I tried to copy the [colors] section of the "old"
win.ini into the new one, but that doesn't work, i.e. nothing changes!

Also, for the remote access stuff, I know I can export (portions of)
the registry into .reg files and later import them in the registry of
the "new" OS: but *what* should I export, exactly?!?

I'd be interested in importing the settings for the various users too,
if it's possible...

Well, any advice is welcome!!


TIA,
Michele
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Old July 21st 04, 04:12 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Default Importing (some) settings from 98 to fresh install of 98SE

Michele Dondi wrote:
Hi everybody,

someone may remeber me having huge difficulties upgrading 98 to 98SE:
eventually I managed to do a fresh install of the latter (on another
HD). Since I wanted to upgrade in the first place, now I'd like to
import at least some of the main settings from the old OS to the new
one.

As far as the installed sw is concerned, of course I'll do that
manually, but I'd prefer to automatically import the settings relating
to visual appearance, remote access connections etc.

For one thing I tried to copy the [colors] section of the "old"
win.ini into the new one, but that doesn't work, i.e. nothing changes!


I think generally it's best to let the fresh installs handle what it adds
to the win.ini by itself unless you have a specific adj previously manually
made..

Also, for the remote access stuff, I know I can export (portions of)
the registry into .reg files and later import them in the registry of
the "new" OS: but *what* should I export, exactly?!?


When you have some programs that have many varied options that you had
previously painstakingly setup just the way you like, and in those cases
it's helpful time saving to export that reg info to merge it again so you
don't have to spend the time to do it all over. If you are familiar with
the registry then you can just you look under whatever programs listings in
HKLM (sometimes some settings in HKU) where you'll need to be able to
ascertain what logically relates to what you want to use, and simply
highlight that whole folder key or portion/s of the folder key and export
it from the top Registry Export tab; however many times there is some
things within that file that are unique to each install and so of course
those things will just need to be edited out before merging so as to retain
the current versions listing. I don't mean to make that sound complicated
because it's pretty easy but only for those who have a familiarity with
doing it, and so which can be a timesaver in many instances. Otherwise if
your not familiar then just install it fresh and reset the options manually
again.

Much of everything else is usually best to let the new install do it fresh.


I'd be interested in importing the settings for the various users too,
if it's possible...


If you have same scenarios then in some cases some settings can be used,
but many times the time/effort you'd spend differentiating what's what to
use - you could of had a fresh install done by itself already which in
itself would gain/refresh you with that particular know-how experience once
again.

All the best,

Rick

Well, any advice is welcome!!


TIA,
Michele
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Old July 21st 04, 04:59 PM
Doug Kanter
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Don't. Just don't.


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Old July 21st 04, 08:08 PM
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Michele Dondi wrote:
As far as the installed sw is concerned, of course I'll do that
manually, but I'd prefer to automatically import the settings
relating to visual appearance,


[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Appearance\Schemes]

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Old July 22nd 04, 08:13 AM
Michele Dondi
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:12:17 -0400, "Rick Chauvin"
wrote:

For one thing I tried to copy the [colors] section of the "old"
win.ini into the new one, but that doesn't work, i.e. nothing changes!


I think generally it's best to let the fresh installs handle what it adds
to the win.ini by itself unless you have a specific adj previously manually
made..


Which is precisely the case: for one thing I had customised the
desktop appearance, but then another poster salready suggested me
where that kind of info actually is (i.e. *not* in win.ini as I had
thought - may be a reminescence from previous versions of the OS...)

Also, for the remote access stuff, I know I can export (portions of)
the registry into .reg files and later import them in the registry of
the "new" OS: but *what* should I export, exactly?!?


When you have some programs that have many varied options that you had
previously painstakingly setup just the way you like, and in those cases
it's helpful time saving to export that reg info to merge it again so you
don't have to spend the time to do it all over. If you are familiar with
the registry then you can just you look under whatever programs listings in
HKLM (sometimes some settings in HKU) where you'll need to be able to
ascertain what logically relates to what you want to use, and simply


Well, that's what I tried, make educated, reasonable, guesses. So I
extracted all the info that I *thought* to be relevant to Remote
Access and imported into the registry of the newly installed 98SE. But
when I tried opening some network program (i.e. IE - pun intended!) it
didn't start the Remoted Access as I would have thought. So it seems
that my guesses were not that correct, after all... and I'm asking
again here to more knowledgeable users!


Michele
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Old July 22nd 04, 02:29 PM
Rick Chauvin
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Michele Dondi wrote:

For one thing I tried to copy the [colors] section of the "old"
win.ini into the new one, but that doesn't work, i.e. nothing
changes!


[....]

...colors may be listed in win.ini but are also dual governed via registry:
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Colors ..also other settings on that
same tab are listed in many different places and so you can't just do what
you did and have it work.

Let me please rephrase my yesterdays reply about this - it's absolutely
best not to swap win.ini files from one to the other.

[....]

When you have some programs that have many varied options that you had
previously painstakingly setup just the way you like, and in those
cases it's helpful time saving to export that reg info to merge it
again so you don't have to spend the time to do it all over. If you
are familiar with the registry then you can just you look under
whatever programs listings in HKLM (sometimes some settings in HKU)
where you'll need to be able to ascertain what logically relates to
what you want to use, and simply


Well, that's what I tried, make educated, reasonable, guesses. So I
extracted all the info that I *thought* to be relevant to Remote
Access and imported into the registry of the newly installed 98SE. But
when I tried opening some network program (i.e. IE - pun intended!) it
didn't start the Remoted Access as I would have thought. So it seems
that my guesses were not that correct, after all... and I'm asking
again here to more knowledgeable users!


There's too many variables here Michele, and sorry if I was too leniently
open with my answer to you yesterday and only meant it for the experienced
techie who knows the territory understanding the endless variances of what
can and what not to do while having the capability to totally
reverse/forward any changes having a commanding control of their computer.
Although I admire your willingness I must step back and advise you nOt to
continue with what you are doing.

Michele my best advice for you with this is to just follow the normal
routine of proper manual installations and options settings.

Rick


Michele
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Old July 22nd 04, 02:47 PM
Doug Kanter
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"Michele Dondi" wrote in message
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Well, that's what I tried, make educated, reasonable, guesses.


Michele, even for someone who understands the registry completely (if such a
person exists), the kind of thing you're attempting is a recipe for
headaches (at best), and disaster (at worst). Give it up. Just recreate the
settings. It's a good learning experience and it builds character.


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Old July 24th 04, 08:49 AM
Michele Dondi
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:29:02 -0400, "Rick Chauvin"
wrote:

..colors may be listed in win.ini but are also dual governed via registry:
HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Colors ..also other settings on that
same tab are listed in many different places and so you can't just do what
you did and have it work.


This is exactly what I wantend to know. I'd like to know the keys
relating to remote access too!

Let me please rephrase my yesterdays reply about this - it's absolutely
best not to swap win.ini files from one to the other.


Well, I wouldn't have done it anyway. I'm not that stupid after all!

There's too many variables here Michele, and sorry if I was too leniently
open with my answer to you yesterday and only meant it for the experienced
techie who knows the territory understanding the endless variances of what
can and what not to do while having the capability to totally
reverse/forward any changes having a commanding control of their computer.


Maybe I'm not an "experienced techie who knows etc. etc.", but I know
how to safely restore previous registry settings.

Michele my best advice for you with this is to just follow the normal
routine of proper manual installations and options settings.


To some extent I'm and I was already prepared to that. It's a PITA
though... feel like I could become violent when I here another one
(Win* kiddie) talking nonsense about how difficult it is to setup and
maintain a Linux system! g


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Old July 24th 04, 08:49 AM
Michele Dondi
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On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:47:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Well, that's what I tried, make educated, reasonable, guesses.


Michele, even for someone who understands the registry completely (if such a
person exists), the kind of thing you're attempting is a recipe for
headaches (at best), and disaster (at worst). Give it up. Just recreate the
settings. It's a good learning experience and it builds character.


Well, despite what you may think my OP was less bad informed than I
actually am. I was well aware of what you say and I didn't want a
recipe for "automatically choose those settings that can be safely
imported and import them". I was referring to specified portions of
the registry, e.g. wrt desktop settings and remote access. Many thanks
for answering, anyway.


Michele
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Old July 24th 04, 02:12 PM
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"Michele Dondi" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 13:47:52 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Well, that's what I tried, make educated, reasonable, guesses.


Michele, even for someone who understands the registry completely (if

such a
person exists), the kind of thing you're attempting is a recipe for
headaches (at best), and disaster (at worst). Give it up. Just recreate

the
settings. It's a good learning experience and it builds character.


Well, despite what you may think my OP was less bad informed than I
actually am. I was well aware of what you say and I didn't want a
recipe for "automatically choose those settings that can be safely
imported and import them". I was referring to specified portions of
the registry, e.g. wrt desktop settings and remote access. Many thanks
for answering, anyway.


I understand that you wanted to selectively import certain parts of the
registry. Every time I wander through the computer books, I see one or two
titles about the registry. Might be worth the money. And/or, pop open a beer
and go he
http://www.winguides.com/registry/


 




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