Other servers

"MEB" wrote in message
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On 05/07/2010 09:39 PM, Sunny wrote:
"Hot-text" wrote in message
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But they are not Microsoft Communities !

No, they are part of the rest of the World, (you know, the "Microsoft
is
not the whole World set")

AH, once again I'm going to recommend you actually read the materials
you would have found via the links I provided for you AND you need to
read the "Joe Banana" material Glen posted, in particular this:
"so I doubt this can be achieved without a maintainer."
Then TRY to think through the ramifications...

What "ramifications" ?
Web based "forums" are a pain in the arse to navigate.
Take your links and post them to the "Microsoft Communities"
One Usenet server drops out from the plethora Worldwide and you and your
ilk think it is the end of the World?

May surprise you to discover that many people do not know that MS has NNTP
servers.

On 05/07/2010 10:23 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
MEB spewed:

Then TRY to think through the ramifications...

I am thinking through the ramifications - and delighting in them.

This newsgroup will soon become MEB-free.

Ah, what a wonderful world it will be.

And you can post your messages to your local area and among those who
connect *to each other* since Microsoft _WAS_ the maintainer - the
MASTER SERVER for distribution content *worldwide*...

Dimwit, this is a first, at least from my experience, this has NEVER
occurred before... are *YOU* going supply the servers AND staff to
maintain the _entire_ microsoft.public hierarchy? No, I thought not...

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On 05/07/2010 10:23 PM, 98 Guy wrote:
MEB spewed:

Then TRY to think through the ramifications...

I am thinking through the ramifications - and delighting in them.

This newsgroup will soon become MEB-free.

Ah, what a wonderful world it will be.

And you can post your messages to your local area and among those who
connect *to each other* since Microsoft _WAS_ the maintainer - the
MASTER SERVER for distribution content *worldwide*...

Dimwit, this is a first, at least from my experience, this has NEVER
occurred before... are *YOU* going supply the servers AND staff to
maintain the _entire_ microsoft.public hierarchy? No, I thought not...

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---

Your NOT read this @ msnews.microsoft.com

We telling you that ((( msnews.microsoft.com ))) is Close Down!
Only ((( msnews.microsoft.com )))

There will be no more Post @ msnews.microsoft.com

No more msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com
msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com
msnews.microsoft.com it's Closeting



"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
MEB spewed:

Then TRY to think through the ramifications...

I am thinking through the ramifications - and delighting in them.

This newsgroup will soon become MEB-free.

Ah, what a wonderful world it will be.

Your NOT read this @ msnews.microsoft.com

We telling you that ((( msnews.microsoft.com ))) is Close Down!
Only ((( msnews.microsoft.com )))

There will be no more Post @ msnews.microsoft.com

No more msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com
msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com msnews.microsoft.com
msnews.microsoft.com it's Closeting



"98 Guy" wrote in message ...
MEB spewed:

Then TRY to think through the ramifications...

I am thinking through the ramifications - and delighting in them.

This newsgroup will soon become MEB-free.

Ah, what a wonderful world it will be.

Yes you right!
May surprise you to discover that many people do not know that MS has NNTP
servers.

nntp://msnews.microsoft.com is Closeing to the public Member Only

We saying that there will be no more Repost to nntp://msnews.microsoft.com
from USERNET
Be Cause of the Close there of .... to the public ....



"Sunny" wrote in message
...

"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 05/07/2010 09:39 PM, Sunny wrote:
"Hot-text" wrote in message
...
But they are not Microsoft Communities !

No, they are part of the rest of the World, (you know, the "Microsoft is
not the whole World set")

AH, once again I'm going to recommend you actually read the materials
you would have found via the links I provided for you AND you need to
read the "Joe Banana" material Glen posted, in particular this:
"so I doubt this can be achieved without a maintainer."
Then TRY to think through the ramifications...

What "ramifications" ?
Web based "forums" are a pain in the arse to navigate.
Take your links and post them to the "Microsoft Communities"
One Usenet server drops out from the plethora Worldwide and you and your
ilk think it is the end of the World?

May surprise you to discover that many people do not know that MS has NNTP
servers.

Yes you right!
May surprise you to discover that many people do not know that MS has NNTP
servers.

nntp://msnews.microsoft.com is Closeing to the public Member Only

We saying that there will be no more Repost to nntp://msnews.microsoft.com
from USERNET
Be Cause of the Close there of .... to the public ....



"Sunny" wrote in message
...

"MEB" wrote in message
...
On 05/07/2010 09:39 PM, Sunny wrote:
"Hot-text" wrote in message
...
But they are not Microsoft Communities !

No, they are part of the rest of the World, (you know, the "Microsoft is
not the whole World set")

AH, once again I'm going to recommend you actually read the materials
you would have found via the links I provided for you AND you need to
read the "Joe Banana" material Glen posted, in particular this:
"so I doubt this can be achieved without a maintainer."
Then TRY to think through the ramifications...

What "ramifications" ?
Web based "forums" are a pain in the arse to navigate.
Take your links and post them to the "Microsoft Communities"
One Usenet server drops out from the plethora Worldwide and you and your
ilk think it is the end of the World?

May surprise you to discover that many people do not know that MS has NNTP
servers.

MEB wrote:

since Microsoft _WAS_ the maintainer - the MASTER SERVER for
distribution content *worldwide*...

You can post no evidence that microsoft was the "maintainer" or "master
server" for the posts in these (microsoft.public) newsgroups.

If that was true, then any posts made via external servers would have to
show up first on the microsoft server, and the PATH of those posts would
have to indicate that they were sourced or routed through microsoft's
server.

And Microsoft could excercise some degree of moderation or censorship if
that were the case. Microsoft could identify certain posters (or be
made aware of them) and simply prevent their posts from propagating out
of their "master" server once it receives those posts.

But none of that happens.

Microsoft is a PEER in this context, as all usenet servers are peers
with each other. You are reluctant to admit this, because you somehow
want to believe that Microsoft holds some authoritative role over the
microsoft.public hierarchy of usenet newsgroups. This reluctance blinds
you to having a true understanding of how usenet works, how servers peer
with each other, and how posts are propagated between peers.

I have copied this post to alt.free.newsservers and news.admin.misc for
others to comment on your technical understanding of this situation.

Dimwit, this is a first, at least from my experience, this has
NEVER occurred before... are *YOU* going supply the servers AND
staff to maintain the _entire_ microsoft.public hierarchy? No,
I thought not...

And they can comment on that as well.

MEB wrote:

since Microsoft _WAS_ the maintainer - the MASTER SERVER for
distribution content *worldwide*...

You can post no evidence that microsoft was the "maintainer" or "master
server" for the posts in these (microsoft.public) newsgroups.

If that was true, then any posts made via external servers would have to
show up first on the microsoft server, and the PATH of those posts would
have to indicate that they were sourced or routed through microsoft's
server.

And Microsoft could excercise some degree of moderation or censorship if
that were the case. Microsoft could identify certain posters (or be
made aware of them) and simply prevent their posts from propagating out
of their "master" server once it receives those posts.

But none of that happens.

Microsoft is a PEER in this context, as all usenet servers are peers
with each other. You are reluctant to admit this, because you somehow
want to believe that Microsoft holds some authoritative role over the
microsoft.public hierarchy of usenet newsgroups. This reluctance blinds
you to having a true understanding of how usenet works, how servers peer
with each other, and how posts are propagated between peers.

I have copied this post to alt.free.newsservers and news.admin.misc for
others to comment on your technical understanding of this situation.

Dimwit, this is a first, at least from my experience, this has
NEVER occurred before... are *YOU* going supply the servers AND
staff to maintain the _entire_ microsoft.public hierarchy? No,
I thought not...

And they can comment on that as well.

98 Guy expressed an opinion:
MEB wrote:

since Microsoft _WAS_ the maintainer - the MASTER SERVER for
distribution content *worldwide*...

You can post no evidence that microsoft was the "maintainer" or "master
server" for the posts in these (microsoft.public) newsgroups.

If that was true, then any posts made via external servers would have to
show up first on the microsoft server, and the PATH of those posts would
have to indicate that they were sourced or routed through microsoft's
server.

And Microsoft could excercise some degree of moderation or censorship if
that were the case. Microsoft could identify certain posters (or be
made aware of them) and simply prevent their posts from propagating out
of their "master" server once it receives those posts.

But none of that happens.

Microsoft is a PEER in this context, as all usenet servers are peers
with each other. You are reluctant to admit this, because you somehow
want to believe that Microsoft holds some authoritative role over the
microsoft.public hierarchy of usenet newsgroups. This reluctance blinds
you to having a true understanding of how usenet works, how servers peer
with each other, and how posts are propagated between peers.

I have copied this post to alt.free.newsservers and news.admin.misc for
others to comment on your technical understanding of this situation.

Dimwit, this is a first, at least from my experience, this has
NEVER occurred before... are *YOU* going supply the servers AND
staff to maintain the _entire_ microsoft.public hierarchy? No,
I thought not...

And they can comment on that as well.

Apparently, "MEB" doesn't understand *propagated* on Usenet. ;-)