Cumulative Update for Outlook Express (887797)

Outlook Express for Windows update available
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797

APPLIES TO
.. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
.. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
.. Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0

If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be available
via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.

Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update Web site,
you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for Outlook Express
(KB823353).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is offered to
me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't in the
Windows Update Catalog that I can find!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
| Outlook Express for Windows update available
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
|
| APPLIES TO
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
|
| If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be
available
| via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
|
| Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update Web
site,
| you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for Outlook
Express
| (KB823353).
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
|

I think PA was referring to XP because it offered me this update for XP
but not 98SE. The update was not considered critical so it will probably
not be offered for 98SE. (Ah, the convenience of dual-boot :)

"PCR" wrote in message
...
PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is offered
to
me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't in the
Windows Update Catalog that I can find!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
| Outlook Express for Windows update available
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
|
| APPLIES TO
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
|
| If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be
available
| via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
|
| Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update Web
site,
| you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for Outlook
Express
| (KB823353).
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
|

Thanks, Dan. It is sad, then, that Bear would post this info in a Win98
NG. Must be he has succumbed to XP-radiation poisoning!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| I think PA was referring to XP because it offered me this update for
XP
| but not 98SE. The update was not considered critical so it will
probably
| not be offered for 98SE. (Ah, the convenience of dual-boot :)
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is
offered
| to
| me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't in
the
| Windows Update Catalog that I can find!
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "PA Bear" wrote in message
| ...
| | Outlook Express for Windows update available
| | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
| |
| | APPLIES TO
| | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| | . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
| |
| | If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be
| available
| | via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
| |
| | Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update
Web
| site,
| | you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for Outlook
| Express
| | (KB823353).
| | --
| | ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| | MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
| |
|
|
|

PCR wrote:
PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is offered to
me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't in the
Windows Update Catalog that I can find!

[I knew this'd get you! wink]

According to your headers (Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437), you
have MS04-018 installed (cf.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...15f466850c8063).
This update fixed 'Mysterious Tilde File', you'll recall.

And this re-opens an old can of worms.

1. From MS04-018 (July-04):

quote
Are Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millennium Edition
critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities that are addressed in this
security bulletin?
No. None of these vulnerabilities are critical in severity on Windows 98, on
Windows 98 Second Edition, or on Windows Millennium Edition.
/quote

2. Despite the above, some Win9x users were offered MS04-018 at WU. Why?
Dunno.

3a. There was a time when the manual download page listed Win98, Win98SE and
WinME. They were recently removed.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

3b. Some Win9x users have successfully installed the above w/out problem.
**-I am /not/ advising anyone to do so!-**

4. MS04-018 would be listed as 'Outlook Express Q823353' in Add/Remove
Programs.

5. If you have MS04-018 installed, go to WU and scan for updates, then look
in left pane under 'Install optional software updates'.

6. I only posted this to Win98 groups because

(1) MS04-018 is a pre-requisite for installing 887797,

(2) some of you have MS04-018 installed, and

(3) WU /may/ offer it to some of you.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797 makes no mention of OS, only:

quote
APPLIES TO
.. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
.. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
.. Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
/quote

Yes, it's confusing.
--
~Robear

Outlook Express for Windows update available
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797

APPLIES TO
. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
. Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
. Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0

If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be
available via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.

Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update Web
site, you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for Outlook
Express (KB823353).
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)

Bear explains his views very well in his second post. My thought would
be that Microsoft would rather have everyone use XP and so is trying not
to make 98SE look too attractive. To Microsoft's credit they have been
clear on their support site that they will only address critical updates
and so maybe they changed their minds when it was determined that this
update was not critical -- only a guess -- who knows :

"PCR" wrote in message
...
Thanks, Dan. It is sad, then, that Bear would post this info in a Win98
NG. Must be he has succumbed to XP-radiation poisoning!

--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| I think PA was referring to XP because it offered me this update for
XP
| but not 98SE. The update was not considered critical so it will
probably
| not be offered for 98SE. (Ah, the convenience of dual-boot :)
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is
offered
| to
| me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't in
the
| Windows Update Catalog that I can find!
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "PA Bear" wrote in message
| ...
| | Outlook Express for Windows update available
| | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
| |
| | APPLIES TO
| | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| | . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
| |
| | If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be
| available
| | via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
| |
| | Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update
Web
| site,
| | you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for Outlook
| Express
| | (KB823353).
| | --
| | ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| | MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
| |
|
|
|

Well, it does seem he came up with possibly a logical explanation.
Still, with MS04-018, i.e. KB823353, definitively installed, I can find
no trace of 887797 at Windows Update, not even at "Windows 98 and
Windows 98 Second Edition (4)" in the left pane. Four items are there,
but not 887797. I'm afraid to look... have Bear's earlobes turned
purple? That would be the only definitive test of the issue, I fear.
But, thanks!


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"Dan" wrote in message
...
| Bear explains his views very well in his second post. My thought
would
| be that Microsoft would rather have everyone use XP and so is trying
not
| to make 98SE look too attractive. To Microsoft's credit they have
been
| clear on their support site that they will only address critical
updates
| and so maybe they changed their minds when it was determined that this
| update was not critical -- only a guess -- who knows :
|
| "PCR" wrote in message
| ...
| Thanks, Dan. It is sad, then, that Bear would post this info in a
Win98
| NG. Must be he has succumbed to XP-radiation poisoning!
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| | I think PA was referring to XP because it offered me this update
for
| XP
| | but not 98SE. The update was not considered critical so it will
| probably
| | not be offered for 98SE. (Ah, the convenience of dual-boot :)
| |
| | "PCR" wrote in message
| | ...
| | PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is
| offered
| | to
| | me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't
in
| the
| | Windows Update Catalog that I can find!
| |
| |
| | --
| | Thanks or Good Luck,
| | There may be humor in this post, and,
| | Naturally, you will not sue,
| | should things get worse after this,
| | PCR
| |
| | "PA Bear" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Outlook Express for Windows update available
| | | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
| | |
| | | APPLIES TO
| | | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| | | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| | | . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
| | |
| | | If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will
be
| | available
| | | via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
| | |
| | | Before this update is made available to you on the Windows
Update
| Web
| | site,
| | | you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for
Outlook
| | Express
| | | (KB823353).
| | | --
| | | ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| | | MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
| | |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|

Well, I fit the category of...

| 6. I only posted this to Win98 groups because
|
| (1) MS04-018 is a pre-requisite for installing 887797,
|
| (2) some of you have MS04-018 installed, and
|
| (3) WU /may/ offer it to some of you.

But, only these four optionals are offered at "Windows 98 and..." in the
left pane...

Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1
Windows Critical Update Notification 4.0
Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update
Euro Conversion Tool

Well, thanks anyway. I haven't "noticed" any such symptoms of 887797
anyway, likely because I haven't done those things it speaks of.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
| PCR wrote:
| PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is
offered to
| me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't in
the
| Windows Update Catalog that I can find!
|
| [I knew this'd get you! wink]
|
| According to your headers (Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437),
you
| have MS04-018 installed (cf.
|
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...15f466850c8063).
| This update fixed 'Mysterious Tilde File', you'll recall.
|
| And this re-opens an old can of worms.
|
| 1. From MS04-018 (July-04):
|
| quote
| Are Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millennium
Edition
| critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities that are addressed
in this
| security bulletin?
| No. None of these vulnerabilities are critical in severity on Windows
98, on
| Windows 98 Second Edition, or on Windows Millennium Edition.
| /quote
|
| 2. Despite the above, some Win9x users were offered MS04-018 at WU.
Why?
| Dunno.
|
| 3a. There was a time when the manual download page listed Win98,
Win98SE and
| WinME. They were recently removed.
|
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
|
| 3b. Some Win9x users have successfully installed the above w/out
problem.
| **-I am /not/ advising anyone to do so!-**
|
| 4. MS04-018 would be listed as 'Outlook Express Q823353' in Add/Remove
| Programs.
|
| 5. If you have MS04-018 installed, go to WU and scan for updates, then
look
| in left pane under 'Install optional software updates'.
|
| 6. I only posted this to Win98 groups because
|
| (1) MS04-018 is a pre-requisite for installing 887797,
|
| (2) some of you have MS04-018 installed, and
|
| (3) WU /may/ offer it to some of you.
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797 makes no mention of OS,
only:
|
| quote
| APPLIES TO
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
| /quote
|
| Yes, it's confusing.
| --
| ~Robear
|
| Outlook Express for Windows update available
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
|
| APPLIES TO
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
|
| If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be
| available via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
|
| Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update
Web
| site, you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for
Outlook
| Express (KB823353).
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
|

Not for me either, but I didn't do advanced search which is how you find
some of them such as MDAC updates. None of the issues in that KB article
effect me.
--
mae

"PCR" wrote in message
...
| Well, it does seem he came up with possibly a logical explanation.
| Still, with MS04-018, i.e. KB823353, definitively installed, I can find
| no trace of 887797 at Windows Update, not even at "Windows 98 and
| Windows 98 Second Edition (4)" in the left pane. Four items are there,
| but not 887797. I'm afraid to look... have Bear's earlobes turned
| purple? That would be the only definitive test of the issue, I fear.
| But, thanks!
|
|
| --
| Thanks or Good Luck,
| There may be humor in this post, and,
| Naturally, you will not sue,
| should things get worse after this,
| PCR
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
| ...
| | Bear explains his views very well in his second post. My thought
| would
| | be that Microsoft would rather have everyone use XP and so is trying
| not
| | to make 98SE look too attractive. | |
| |
"PCR" wrote in message
| | ...
| | Thanks, Dan. It is sad, then, that Bear would post this info in a
| Win98
| | NG. Must be he has succumbed to XP-radiation poisoning!
|
| |
| | "Dan" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | I think PA was referring to XP because it offered me this update
| for
| | XP
| | | but not 98SE. The update was not considered critical so it will
|| | |
| | | "PCR" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is
| | |
| | | "PA Bear" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | Outlook Express for Windows update available
| | | | http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
| | | |
| | | | APPLIES TO
| | | | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| | | | . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| | | | . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
| | | |
| | | | If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will
| be
| | | available
| | | | via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
| | | |
| | | | Before this update is made available to you on the Windows
| Update
| | Web
| | | site,
| | | | you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for
| Outlook
| | | Express
| | | | (KB823353).
| | | | --
| | | | ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| | | | MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
| | | |

You're welcome, PCR. Perhaps Bear or someone else will be able to
comment further upon this issue.

"PCR" wrote in message
...
Well, I fit the category of...

| 6. I only posted this to Win98 groups because
|
| (1) MS04-018 is a pre-requisite for installing 887797,
|
| (2) some of you have MS04-018 installed, and
|
| (3) WU /may/ offer it to some of you.

But, only these four optionals are offered at "Windows 98 and..." in
the
left pane...

Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1
Windows Critical Update Notification 4.0
Internet Explorer Navigation Sound Update
Euro Conversion Tool

Well, thanks anyway. I haven't "noticed" any such symptoms of 887797
anyway, likely because I haven't done those things it speaks of.


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR

"PA Bear" wrote in message
...
| PCR wrote:
| PA, I do have MS04-018 installed! I do not see that 887797 is
offered to
| me at Windows Update! I cannot find 'Custom Install', & it isn't in
the
| Windows Update Catalog that I can find!
|
| [I knew this'd get you! wink]
|
| According to your headers (Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437),
you
| have MS04-018 installed (cf.
|

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...15f466850c8063).
| This update fixed 'Mysterious Tilde File', you'll recall.
|
| And this re-opens an old can of worms.
|
| 1. From MS04-018 (July-04):
|
| quote
| Are Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, or Windows Millennium
Edition
| critically affected by any of the vulnerabilities that are addressed
in this
| security bulletin?
| No. None of these vulnerabilities are critical in severity on Windows
98, on
| Windows 98 Second Edition, or on Windows Millennium Edition.
| /quote
|
| 2. Despite the above, some Win9x users were offered MS04-018 at WU.
Why?
| Dunno.
|
| 3a. There was a time when the manual download page listed Win98,
Win98SE and
| WinME. They were recently removed.
|

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
|
| 3b. Some Win9x users have successfully installed the above w/out
problem.
| **-I am /not/ advising anyone to do so!-**
|
| 4. MS04-018 would be listed as 'Outlook Express Q823353' in
Add/Remove
| Programs.
|
| 5. If you have MS04-018 installed, go to WU and scan for updates,
then
look
| in left pane under 'Install optional software updates'.
|
| 6. I only posted this to Win98 groups because
|
| (1) MS04-018 is a pre-requisite for installing 887797,
|
| (2) some of you have MS04-018 installed, and
|
| (3) WU /may/ offer it to some of you.
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797 makes no mention of OS,
only:
|
| quote
| APPLIES TO
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
| /quote
|
| Yes, it's confusing.
| --
| ~Robear
|
| Outlook Express for Windows update available
| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=887797
|
| APPLIES TO
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5 Service Pack 2
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 5.5
| . Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
|
| If you choose 'Custom Install' at Windows Update, 887797 will be
| available via 'Select optional software updates' in left pane.
|
| Before this update is made available to you on the Windows Update
Web
| site, you must install MS04-018: Cumulative security update for
Outlook
| Express (KB823353).
| --
| ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
| MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE)
|