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  #11  
Old March 9th 09, 01:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Milt
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Default Repair Reinstall

Mike,

Thanks, I understand what they said. I assume it's worth a try, because
otherwise I'll have to reinstall Windows and every other program and
application anyhow.

Milt



"Mike M" wrote:

Both problems you mention are due to the disc being occupied by other
functions in the background.


What on earth are you talking about? Your reply should be to the OP and
not my post.
--
Mike Maltby



Corday wrote:

Both problems you mention are due to the disc being occupied by other
functions in the background. Forget the reinstall, just try running
Scandisc in Safe Mode. Don't use a 3rd party defrag. If you have an
Intel chip, there's works better than anything else.



  #12  
Old March 9th 09, 01:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Milt
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Default Repair Reinstall

Noel,

Thanks for the link. I searched for something like that, but couldn't find
anything.

Milt

"Noel Paton" wrote:

WTF are you on about, Corday?
Neither problem that Mike mentions has ANYTHING to do with 'other functions
in the background' - it's simply that reinstalling earlier versions of IE
and/or WMP over later ones does seriously bad things to version integrity -
which isn't adequately checked during the reinstall.
If you need instructions on the proper methodology of a reinstall, look
here....
http://crashfixpc.co.uk/reinME.htm
Unfortunately, some of it's a little outdated now, as Ad-Aware, etc are no
longer Win9x-friendly - I'm working on a revision to address this issue -
but the essentials are still true


--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Corday" wrote in message
...
Both problems you mention are due to the disc being occupied by other
functions in the background. Forget the reinstall, just try running
Scandisc
in Safe Mode. Don't use a 3rd party defrag. If you have an Intel chip,
there's works better than anything else.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!


"Mike M" wrote:

Milt,

The provisos Mart mentioned are that you need to be very careful about
reinstalling Win Me over itself if you have upgraded to using IE6 and/or
Windows Media Player 9. If either of these are true special steps need
to
be taken before reinstalling Win Me such as uninstalling IE6 via
Add/Remove Programs and renaming the WMP file wmploc.dll to wmploc.old.

Failure to do either of these steps will lead to major problems and what
is known as version soup and DLL Hell.
--
Mike Maltby



Milt wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is
and I've read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such
as Defrag. and Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt




  #13  
Old March 9th 09, 01:29 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Mart
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Default Repair Reinstall

Milt confirmed that :-

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up.
Same from floppy.


Well, only Scandisk will run from the floppy. Defrag will only run in
Windows. However if Scandisk hangs in Real Mode DOS (i.e. via the floppy)
then by definition, you've totally eliminated WinMe as being the prime
suspect and you problems are elsewhere - most likely your hard disk.

In fact, if it really does hang in RM DOS, then you won't be able to
'reinstall' or even 'clean install'. WinMe won't install until it is happy
with the quality of the hard drive. The first thing it does before
installing the OS is to perform a Scandisk.

BTW - depending on the size of the HDD, both Scandisk and Defrag can take up
to several hours complete, especially if you run full scandisk. To use the
term 'sluggish' really wants some qualification.

OTOH - if you prefer to do it your own way (i.e. re-install WinMe over
itself) then I wish you well.

Mart


"Milt" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies.

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up. Same from floppy. Other
programs are slugish too. And yes, I'm running both IE 6 and WMP 9.

I think I'll try a reinstall of ME ovr itself though. If I screw up, I'll
have to start over and reload everything. But I'd have to do that anyhow.
And
yes, I know to back up data and doc's before I start.

I think I'll wait another day and see if anyone has any other comments
before I do it though.

Milt

"Milt" wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is and
I've
read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such as Defrag.
and
Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt



  #14  
Old March 9th 09, 02:48 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
webster72n
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Posts: 1,526
Default Repair Reinstall


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Milt confirmed that :-

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up.
Same from floppy.


Well, only Scandisk will run from the floppy. Defrag will only run in
Windows. However if Scandisk hangs in Real Mode DOS (i.e. via the floppy)
then by definition, you've totally eliminated WinMe as being the prime
suspect and you problems are elsewhere - most likely your hard disk.

In fact, if it really does hang in RM DOS, then you won't be able to
'reinstall' or even 'clean install'. WinMe won't install until it is
happy with the quality of the hard drive. The first thing it does before
installing the OS is to perform a Scandisk.

BTW - depending on the size of the HDD, both Scandisk and Defrag can take
up to several hours complete, especially if you run full scandisk. To
use the term 'sluggish' really wants some qualification.

OTOH - if you prefer to do it your own way (i.e. re-install WinMe over
itself) then I wish you well.


Looks like a bit of confusion here, doesn't it?.....
Obviously the OP is looking for an easy way out and SR is not applicable, or
is it?


Mart


"Milt" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies.

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up. Same from floppy. Other
programs are slugish too. And yes, I'm running both IE 6 and WMP 9.

I think I'll try a reinstall of ME ovr itself though. If I screw up, I'll
have to start over and reload everything. But I'd have to do that anyhow.
And
yes, I know to back up data and doc's before I start.

I think I'll wait another day and see if anyone has any other comments
before I do it though.

Milt

"Milt" wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is and
I've
read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such as Defrag.
and
Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt




  #15  
Old March 9th 09, 04:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Milt
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Posts: 12
Default Repair Reinstall

webster72n,

System Restore is the first thing I tried. No help there. And, yes, if I can
do it the "easy way" it's probably worth trying before doing a complete
reinstall. But if necessary I will. I've got all the disks. I'd just rather
save the time if I can.

Thanks,
Milt

"webster72n" wrote:


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Milt confirmed that :-

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up.
Same from floppy.


Well, only Scandisk will run from the floppy. Defrag will only run in
Windows. However if Scandisk hangs in Real Mode DOS (i.e. via the floppy)
then by definition, you've totally eliminated WinMe as being the prime
suspect and you problems are elsewhere - most likely your hard disk.

In fact, if it really does hang in RM DOS, then you won't be able to
'reinstall' or even 'clean install'. WinMe won't install until it is
happy with the quality of the hard drive. The first thing it does before
installing the OS is to perform a Scandisk.

BTW - depending on the size of the HDD, both Scandisk and Defrag can take
up to several hours complete, especially if you run full scandisk. To
use the term 'sluggish' really wants some qualification.

OTOH - if you prefer to do it your own way (i.e. re-install WinMe over
itself) then I wish you well.


Looks like a bit of confusion here, doesn't it?.....
Obviously the OP is looking for an easy way out and SR is not applicable, or
is it?


Mart


"Milt" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies.

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up. Same from floppy. Other
programs are slugish too. And yes, I'm running both IE 6 and WMP 9.

I think I'll try a reinstall of ME ovr itself though. If I screw up, I'll
have to start over and reload everything. But I'd have to do that anyhow.
And
yes, I know to back up data and doc's before I start.

I think I'll wait another day and see if anyone has any other comments
before I do it though.

Milt

"Milt" wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is and
I've
read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such as Defrag.
and
Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt





  #16  
Old March 9th 09, 05:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
webster72n
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Posts: 1,526
Default Repair Reinstall


"Milt" wrote in message
...
webster72n,

System Restore is the first thing I tried. No help there. And, yes, if I
can
do it the "easy way" it's probably worth trying before doing a complete
reinstall. But if necessary I will. I've got all the disks. I'd just
rather
save the time if I can.


By he looks of it there doesn't seem to be, then why not follow Noel's
instructional link?
It isn't all that hard, if done the right way, according to instructions.
Best of luck, Milt.


Thanks,
Milt

"webster72n" wrote:


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Milt confirmed that :-

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up.
Same from floppy.

Well, only Scandisk will run from the floppy. Defrag will only run in
Windows. However if Scandisk hangs in Real Mode DOS (i.e. via the
floppy)
then by definition, you've totally eliminated WinMe as being the prime
suspect and you problems are elsewhere - most likely your hard disk.

In fact, if it really does hang in RM DOS, then you won't be able to
'reinstall' or even 'clean install'. WinMe won't install until it is
happy with the quality of the hard drive. The first thing it does
before
installing the OS is to perform a Scandisk.

BTW - depending on the size of the HDD, both Scandisk and Defrag can
take
up to several hours complete, especially if you run full scandisk. To
use the term 'sluggish' really wants some qualification.

OTOH - if you prefer to do it your own way (i.e. re-install WinMe over
itself) then I wish you well.


Looks like a bit of confusion here, doesn't it?.....
Obviously the OP is looking for an easy way out and SR is not applicable,
or
is it?


Mart


"Milt" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies.

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up. Same from floppy. Other
programs are slugish too. And yes, I'm running both IE 6 and WMP 9.

I think I'll try a reinstall of ME ovr itself though. If I screw up,
I'll
have to start over and reload everything. But I'd have to do that
anyhow.
And
yes, I know to back up data and doc's before I start.

I think I'll wait another day and see if anyone has any other comments
before I do it though.

Milt

"Milt" wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is
and
I've
read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such as
Defrag.
and
Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt





  #17  
Old March 9th 09, 09:11 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Shane[_7_]
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Posts: 17
Default Repair Reinstall

Noel (and Mike),

I suspect Corday is mentally (though not actually) responding to Mart's
reply. Although I think they're both making the mistake of for one reason or
another disregarding that Milt says Scandisk and Defrag are 'freezing the
computer', which I certainly don't recall as a consequence of the continual
restarting issue.

Shane


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
WTF are you on about, Corday?
Neither problem that Mike mentions has ANYTHING to do with 'other
functions in the background' - it's simply that reinstalling earlier
versions of IE and/or WMP over later ones does seriously bad things to
version integrity - which isn't adequately checked during the reinstall.
If you need instructions on the proper methodology of a reinstall, look
here....
http://crashfixpc.co.uk/reinME.htm
Unfortunately, some of it's a little outdated now, as Ad-Aware, etc are no
longer Win9x-friendly - I'm working on a revision to address this issue -
but the essentials are still true


--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Corday" wrote in message
...
Both problems you mention are due to the disc being occupied by other
functions in the background. Forget the reinstall, just try running
Scandisc
in Safe Mode. Don't use a 3rd party defrag. If you have an Intel chip,
there's works better than anything else.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!


"Mike M" wrote:

Milt,

The provisos Mart mentioned are that you need to be very careful about
reinstalling Win Me over itself if you have upgraded to using IE6 and/or
Windows Media Player 9. If either of these are true special steps need
to
be taken before reinstalling Win Me such as uninstalling IE6 via
Add/Remove Programs and renaming the WMP file wmploc.dll to wmploc.old.

Failure to do either of these steps will lead to major problems and what
is known as version soup and DLL Hell.
--
Mike Maltby



Milt wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is
and I've read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such
as Defrag. and Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt




  #18  
Old March 9th 09, 10:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Noel Paton[_3_]
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Default Repair Reinstall

Milt
As Mart has suggested, if Scandisk won't run in DOS, then you have a problem
with the hard drive - I'd suggest running the HD manufacturer's test
utility to check the state of the drive (make sure that you read the
instructions - some of the test routines can wipe the drive!!) before trying
anything else.

--
Noel Paton
CrashFixPC

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
www.crashfixpc.co.uk
"Milt" wrote in message
...
webster72n,

System Restore is the first thing I tried. No help there. And, yes, if I
can
do it the "easy way" it's probably worth trying before doing a complete
reinstall. But if necessary I will. I've got all the disks. I'd just
rather
save the time if I can.

Thanks,
Milt

"webster72n" wrote:


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Milt confirmed that :-

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up.
Same from floppy.

Well, only Scandisk will run from the floppy. Defrag will only run in
Windows. However if Scandisk hangs in Real Mode DOS (i.e. via the
floppy)
then by definition, you've totally eliminated WinMe as being the prime
suspect and you problems are elsewhere - most likely your hard disk.

In fact, if it really does hang in RM DOS, then you won't be able to
'reinstall' or even 'clean install'. WinMe won't install until it is
happy with the quality of the hard drive. The first thing it does
before
installing the OS is to perform a Scandisk.

BTW - depending on the size of the HDD, both Scandisk and Defrag can
take
up to several hours complete, especially if you run full scandisk. To
use the term 'sluggish' really wants some qualification.

OTOH - if you prefer to do it your own way (i.e. re-install WinMe over
itself) then I wish you well.


Looks like a bit of confusion here, doesn't it?.....
Obviously the OP is looking for an easy way out and SR is not applicable,
or
is it?


Mart


"Milt" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies.

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up. Same from floppy. Other
programs are slugish too. And yes, I'm running both IE 6 and WMP 9.

I think I'll try a reinstall of ME ovr itself though. If I screw up,
I'll
have to start over and reload everything. But I'd have to do that
anyhow.
And
yes, I know to back up data and doc's before I start.

I think I'll wait another day and see if anyone has any other comments
before I do it though.

Milt

"Milt" wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is
and
I've
read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such as
Defrag.
and
Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt





  #19  
Old March 9th 09, 08:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Corday[_3_]
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Posts: 138
Default Repair Reinstall

The easy way takes about 40 minutes and you can watch entertaining 10 year
old MS propaganda. If you do it the hard way, wipe your hardrive completely.
That does take some time.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!


"Milt" wrote:

webster72n,

System Restore is the first thing I tried. No help there. And, yes, if I can
do it the "easy way" it's probably worth trying before doing a complete
reinstall. But if necessary I will. I've got all the disks. I'd just rather
save the time if I can.

Thanks,
Milt

"webster72n" wrote:


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Milt confirmed that :-

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up.
Same from floppy.

Well, only Scandisk will run from the floppy. Defrag will only run in
Windows. However if Scandisk hangs in Real Mode DOS (i.e. via the floppy)
then by definition, you've totally eliminated WinMe as being the prime
suspect and you problems are elsewhere - most likely your hard disk.

In fact, if it really does hang in RM DOS, then you won't be able to
'reinstall' or even 'clean install'. WinMe won't install until it is
happy with the quality of the hard drive. The first thing it does before
installing the OS is to perform a Scandisk.

BTW - depending on the size of the HDD, both Scandisk and Defrag can take
up to several hours complete, especially if you run full scandisk. To
use the term 'sluggish' really wants some qualification.

OTOH - if you prefer to do it your own way (i.e. re-install WinMe over
itself) then I wish you well.


Looks like a bit of confusion here, doesn't it?.....
Obviously the OP is looking for an easy way out and SR is not applicable, or
is it?


Mart


"Milt" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies.

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up. Same from floppy. Other
programs are slugish too. And yes, I'm running both IE 6 and WMP 9.

I think I'll try a reinstall of ME ovr itself though. If I screw up, I'll
have to start over and reload everything. But I'd have to do that anyhow.
And
yes, I know to back up data and doc's before I start.

I think I'll wait another day and see if anyone has any other comments
before I do it though.

Milt

"Milt" wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is and
I've
read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such as Defrag.
and
Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt




  #20  
Old March 9th 09, 09:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsme.general
Corday[_3_]
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Posts: 138
Default Repair Reinstall

A really good piece of advice I got from a Level2 MS tech was to back up the
OS as well as personal data. The purpose of this site is not to push
propritory hardware so I won't say what I use, but about once a month, when I
know all is OK I backup the OS. The data, I do weekly or more often if
there's something I really want saved.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!


"Corday" wrote:

The easy way takes about 40 minutes and you can watch entertaining 10 year
old MS propaganda. If you do it the hard way, wipe your hardrive completely.
That does take some time.
--
I mastered Wordstar graphics!


"Milt" wrote:

webster72n,

System Restore is the first thing I tried. No help there. And, yes, if I can
do it the "easy way" it's probably worth trying before doing a complete
reinstall. But if necessary I will. I've got all the disks. I'd just rather
save the time if I can.

Thanks,
Milt

"webster72n" wrote:


"Mart" wrote in message
...
Milt confirmed that :-

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up.
Same from floppy.

Well, only Scandisk will run from the floppy. Defrag will only run in
Windows. However if Scandisk hangs in Real Mode DOS (i.e. via the floppy)
then by definition, you've totally eliminated WinMe as being the prime
suspect and you problems are elsewhere - most likely your hard disk.

In fact, if it really does hang in RM DOS, then you won't be able to
'reinstall' or even 'clean install'. WinMe won't install until it is
happy with the quality of the hard drive. The first thing it does before
installing the OS is to perform a Scandisk.

BTW - depending on the size of the HDD, both Scandisk and Defrag can take
up to several hours complete, especially if you run full scandisk. To
use the term 'sluggish' really wants some qualification.

OTOH - if you prefer to do it your own way (i.e. re-install WinMe over
itself) then I wish you well.

Looks like a bit of confusion here, doesn't it?.....
Obviously the OP is looking for an easy way out and SR is not applicable, or
is it?


Mart


"Milt" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the replies.

In Safe Mode both Defrag and Scandisk hang up. Same from floppy. Other
programs are slugish too. And yes, I'm running both IE 6 and WMP 9.

I think I'll try a reinstall of ME ovr itself though. If I screw up, I'll
have to start over and reload everything. But I'd have to do that anyhow.
And
yes, I know to back up data and doc's before I start.

I think I'll wait another day and see if anyone has any other comments
before I do it though.

Milt

"Milt" wrote:

Is it possible to do a repair reinstll of ME? I've read that it is and
I've
read that it isn't. I'm having a problem with functions such as Defrag.
and
Scandisk hanging up and freezing the computer.

Milt




 




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