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ZoneAlarm missing Firewall Zones tab for subnet. New NAT router won't show Entire Network.
Intro, Yesterday's project: pc1, pc2, existing cable modem to Netgear
rp614na Ethernet router. Per Netgear quick install, Internet worked for both PCs - - Good. Already done: only TCP/IP bindings [1] But current trouble is lack of File & Printer Sharing, as seen when trying to open Entire Network and/or Workgroup and/or individual pc (the other pc). Before installing router, both PCs had had File & Printer Sharing turned off. Probably irrelevant: In Win Network of both PCs, I've tried various settings for File & Printer Sharing: "Disabled", "Enabled", "Automatic", but general result is: some lack of visibility [2] occurs for the PC "Master Browser" set "Disabled". PROGRESS: Web clues told me ZoneAlarm might be the hang up. This was confirmed because both PCs see files properly if I shutdown both ZA. Based on further web clues, I think I should be able to run ZA. Because... 1 Shutdown Za on pc2. ZA on only pc1 with pc2's subnet in pc1 Firewall Zones. Now, pc1 can see pc2 files. 2-way network usability between the PCs. 2 (If pc2 ZA is running, it's ZA shows pc1 subnet IP "blocked" message, when pc1 tries to open Entire Network.) Trying to imitate subnet entry success on pc1, I'd like to add pc1 subnet to pc2 ZA... But pc2's ZA is MISSING FIREWALL ZONES tab!!! So I can't add pc1 subnet to pc2's ZA. . I installed slightly newer ver. ZA[3], but same problem, Firewall Zones tab is not there.[4] I'm wondering if some Windows "Internet Options" or "Network" settings are influencing the Zlsetup to avoid creating the "zones" tab for the firewall dialog of ZoneAlarm. Can anyone suggest .. something? I see this as a ZoneAlarm problem. No clues found in searches on forums.zonelabs.com. I might post there next. Footnotes: ---------- Pc1 and pc2 have different histories, one was Win ME OEM, other was upgrade from 98 SE. Both are now WinME. Both have slightly different IE/Internet Options security settings (leapfrog-like evolution). They have very different hardware (D-link Nic card vs 3com chips on Motherboard . Celeron vs AMD. Etc. ) Their Win Network lists contain different Adapters. (pc1 NDSIWAN, ms Vpn, support, #2, 3com integrated etc. pc2 ms Tv/Video Connection (why? What's this?), d-link, Cnet Pro2000 (Cnet adapter appeared with d-link NIC install)) Both: Primary logon is Windows Logon, though MS Client Networks is still listed. Both now have an automatic logon, user name "default". (password are blank, but for extra security, maybe I could store a password while still have automatic logon at startup?) No IIRC, or interactive games (no need for IPX/SPX). No server or remote access uses anticipated. Standard Netgear router's settings, except I replaced password. [1] Per grc "bondage" pages, I've fiddled with NetBEUI protocol, and bindings. Eventually I noticed that only TCP/IP bindings allow Internet access (because this router uses only TCP/IP?), so I've since Removed NetBEUI. Result: ShieldsUp shows router (maybe with assist from ZA) is stealthing all 1056 ports - good. [2] Lack of visibility are balking at: 1) Entire Network", 2) not seeing workgroup, or 3) not opening the (other) pc to see list of shared folder/printers. After discovering Za blocking, in both PCs' Win Network I've set File & Printer Sharing: "Master Browser" Enabled. [3] ZoneAlarm Free. Zlsetup attempted on pc2 are today's download 5..0.590.043 and a previous recent version 5..0.590.015. That previous 5..0.590.015 is allowing me to use the zones tab on pc1 [4] Firewall Zones tab may have always been missing, when pc2 wasn't networked. But I hadn't any reason to look for the tab. Hmmm.. comparing ZA dialog in both PCs... I see pc2 also lacks the "Preferences" and "Product Info" tabs in "Overview" dialog. And I think "Preferences" (and likely Product Info) were missing before I downloaded the slightly newer Zlsetup. I always choose "clean install" during zlsetup. ---- duplicate posted to msn news server and 'regular' newsgroups(perhaps someone wants to read possible solution.) |
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ZoneAlarm missing Firewall Zones tab for subnet. New NAT router won't show Entire Network.
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:18:09 penned this
whopper in microsoft.public.windowsme.networking Intro, Yesterday's project: pc1, pc2, existing cable modem to Netgear rp614na Ethernet router. Per Netgear quick install, Internet worked for both PCs - - Good. Already done: only TCP/IP bindings [1] But current trouble is lack of File & Printer Sharing, as seen when trying to open Entire Network and/or Workgroup and/or individual pc (the other pc). Before installing router, both PCs had had File & Printer Sharing turned off. Probably irrelevant: In Win Network of both PCs, I've tried various settings for File & Printer Sharing: "Disabled", "Enabled", "Automatic", but general result is: some lack of visibility [2] occurs for the PC "Master Browser" set "Disabled". PROGRESS: Web clues told me ZoneAlarm might be the hang up. This was confirmed because both PCs see files properly if I shutdown both ZA. Based on further web clues, I think I should be able to run ZA. Because... 1 Shutdown Za on pc2. ZA on only pc1 with pc2's subnet in pc1 Firewall Zones. Now, pc1 can see pc2 files. 2-way network usability between the PCs. 2 (If pc2 ZA is running, it's ZA shows pc1 subnet IP "blocked" message, when pc1 tries to open Entire Network.) Trying to imitate subnet entry success on pc1, I'd like to add pc1 subnet to pc2 ZA... But pc2's ZA is MISSING FIREWALL ZONES tab!!! So I can't add pc1 subnet to pc2's ZA. . I installed slightly newer ver. ZA[3], but same problem, Firewall Zones tab is not there.[4] I'm wondering if some Windows "Internet Options" or "Network" settings are influencing the Zlsetup to avoid creating the "zones" tab for the firewall dialog of ZoneAlarm. Can anyone suggest .. something? I see this as a ZoneAlarm problem. No clues found in searches on forums.zonelabs.com. I might post there next. Footnotes: ---------- Pc1 and pc2 have different histories, one was Win ME OEM, other was upgrade from 98 SE. Both are now WinME. Both have slightly different IE/Internet Options security settings (leapfrog-like evolution). They have very different hardware (D-link Nic card vs 3com chips on Motherboard . Celeron vs AMD. Etc. ) Their Win Network lists contain different Adapters. (pc1 NDSIWAN, ms Vpn, support, #2, 3com integrated etc. pc2 ms Tv/Video Connection (why? What's this?), d-link, Cnet Pro2000 (Cnet adapter appeared with d-link NIC install)) Both: Primary logon is Windows Logon, though MS Client Networks is still listed. Both now have an automatic logon, user name "default". (password are blank, but for extra security, maybe I could store a password while still have automatic logon at startup?) No IIRC, or interactive games (no need for IPX/SPX). No server or remote access uses anticipated. Standard Netgear router's settings, except I replaced password. [1] Per grc "bondage" pages, I've fiddled with NetBEUI protocol, and bindings. Eventually I noticed that only TCP/IP bindings allow Internet access (because this router uses only TCP/IP?), so I've since Removed NetBEUI. Result: ShieldsUp shows router (maybe with assist from ZA) is stealthing all 1056 ports - good. [2] Lack of visibility are balking at: 1) Entire Network", 2) not seeing workgroup, or 3) not opening the (other) pc to see list of shared folder/printers. After discovering Za blocking, in both PCs' Win Network I've set File & Printer Sharing: "Master Browser" Enabled. [3] ZoneAlarm Free. Zlsetup attempted on pc2 are today's download 5..0.590.043 and a previous recent version 5..0.590.015. That previous 5..0.590.015 is allowing me to use the zones tab on pc1 [4] Firewall Zones tab may have always been missing, when pc2 wasn't networked. But I hadn't any reason to look for the tab. Hmmm.. comparing ZA dialog in both PCs... I see pc2 also lacks the "Preferences" and "Product Info" tabs in "Overview" dialog. And I think "Preferences" (and likely Product Info) were missing before I downloaded the slightly newer Zlsetup. I always choose "clean install" during zlsetup. ---- duplicate posted to msn news server and 'regular' newsgroups(perhaps someone wants to read possible solution.) Maybe not relevant, but you shouldn't have both set as master browser; one should be on auto or never. -- "Time will bring to light whatever is hidden; it will cover up and conceal what is now shining in splendor." Horace (65 - 8 BC); Roman poet. Mike |
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ZoneAlarm missing Firewall Zones tab for subnet. New NAT router won't show Entire Network.
In article , says...
Intro, Yesterday's project: pc1, pc2, existing cable modem to Netgear rp614na Ethernet router. Per Netgear quick install, Internet worked for both PCs - - Good. Already done: only TCP/IP bindings [1] But current trouble is lack of File & Printer Sharing, as seen when trying to open Entire Network and/or Workgroup and/or individual pc (the other pc). Before installing router, both PCs had had File & Printer Sharing turned off. Probably irrelevant: In Win Network of both PCs, I've tried various settings for File & Printer Sharing: "Disabled", "Enabled", "Automatic", but general result is: some lack of visibility [2] occurs for the PC "Master Browser" set "Disabled". In my LAN, I have the Windows Me computer running an MTA set with the Master Browser as "Enabled", and the other Windows Me computer set to "Automatic". The MTA reference is only because that computer spends the most time up and running; the computer which is on the longest is the only one which should have the Master Browser enabled. PROGRESS: Web clues told me ZoneAlarm might be the hang up. This was confirmed because both PCs see files properly if I shutdown both ZA. Based on further web clues, I think I should be able to run ZA. Because... 1 Shutdown Za on pc2. ZA on only pc1 with pc2's subnet in pc1 Firewall Zones. Now, pc1 can see pc2 files. 2-way network usability between the PCs. 2 (If pc2 ZA is running, it's ZA shows pc1 subnet IP "blocked" message, when pc1 tries to open Entire Network.) Hmmm. I am kind of stumped about this one. There should only be one subnet; all LAN computers are members of that subnet. If you intend for sharing files and printers between them, that is. The firewalls on all PCs behind the router should all be set to trust all addresses in the router's LAN block. Your LAN IP should be a block in, say 192.168.0.0; with the last dotted quad being anything from 1 to 254. Your ZA firewall should trust all addresses in that range; 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255, with subnet mask 255.255.255.0. All copies of ZA on all PCs in the LAN should have that established as a trusted network. Trying to imitate subnet entry success on pc1, I'd like to add pc1 subnet to pc2 ZA... But pc2's ZA is MISSING FIREWALL ZONES tab!!! So I can't add pc1 subnet to pc2's ZA. . I installed slightly newer ver. ZA[3], but same problem, Firewall Zones tab is not there.[4] I am not familiar with ZA. Do you have an "Advanced" options setting which needs to be enabled? Or maybe it is set to be on a gateway computer? Your router is your gateway, and any software firewall should ***NOT*** be set as a gateway firewall. I'm wondering if some Windows "Internet Options" or "Network" settings are influencing the Zlsetup to avoid creating the "zones" tab for the firewall dialog of ZoneAlarm. Can anyone suggest .. something? I see this as a ZoneAlarm problem. No clues found in searches on forums.zonelabs.com. I might post there next. Footnotes: ---------- Pc1 and pc2 have different histories, one was Win ME OEM, other was upgrade from 98 SE. Both are now WinME. Both have slightly different IE/Internet Options security settings (leapfrog-like evolution). Not relevant. They have very different hardware (D-link Nic card vs 3com chips on Motherboard . Celeron vs AMD. Etc. ) Not relevant. Both: Primary logon is Windows Logon, though MS Client Networks is still listed. Both now have an automatic logon, user name "default". (password are blank, but for extra security, maybe I could store a password while still have automatic logon at startup?) Windows Logon is good. Password isn't really necessary in a trusted physical environment. No IIRC, or interactive games (no need for IPX/SPX). No server or remote access uses anticipated. Only affects a need for port forwarding in the router; don't worry about it. Standard Netgear router's settings, except I replaced password. [1] Per grc "bondage" pages, I've fiddled with NetBEUI protocol, and bindings. Eventually I noticed that only TCP/IP bindings allow Internet access (because this router uses only TCP/IP?), so I've since Removed NetBEUI. Result: ShieldsUp shows router (maybe with assist from ZA) is stealthing all 1056 ports - good. Actually, the Internet use TCP/IP. With the router in place, the GRC "bindings" isn't entirely necessary. You can leave NetBIOS accessible behind the router because it should be blocking NetBIOS packets between the LAN and the WAN. ZA is not helping to maintain "stealth" on the router; indeed, you shouldn't see any incoming packets in the ZA logs at all. [2] Lack of visibility are balking at: 1) Entire Network", 2) not seeing workgroup, or 3) not opening the (other) pc to see list of shared folder/printers. After discovering Za blocking, in both PCs' Win Network I've set File & Printer Sharing: "Master Browser" Enabled. Only the computer expected to remain powered up the longest should be the Master Browser; no other computer should be set as the Master Browser. [3] ZoneAlarm Free. Zlsetup attempted on pc2 are today's download 5..0.590.043 and a previous recent version 5..0.590.015. That previous 5..0.590.015 is allowing me to use the zones tab on pc1 All copies of ZAF should be set to trust all IP addresses assigned by the router. [4] Firewall Zones tab may have always been missing, when pc2 wasn't networked. But I hadn't any reason to look for the tab. Hmmm.. comparing ZA dialog in both PCs... I see pc2 also lacks the "Preferences" and "Product Info" tabs in "Overview" dialog. And I think "Preferences" (and likely Product Info) were missing before I downloaded the slightly newer Zlsetup. I always choose "clean install" during zlsetup. Again, I suggest looking for something like an "Advanced" tab. I vaguely recall (from using it three years ago) some such setting. BTW, I gave it up when I discovered that ZAF on a gateway computer could not be set to maximum security. Tiny Personal Firewall, the one which is now called Kerio Personal Firewall, had a special "gateway" setting for a computer acting as the gateway in an ICS setup. Of course, now I have a router, so I don't use that gateway setting. But I got used to using KPF, so it stayed. -- Norman ~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta ~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain ~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint |
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ZoneAlarm missing Firewall Zones tab for subnet. New NAT router won't show Entire Network.
Am really confounded by many that say to use TCP/IP for sharing as this is
also same protocol for the internet. Really basic to the core here. Duh. Am using NETBEUI protocol for local sharing (file and printer sharing). TPC/IP is exclusively used for internet use only here amongst all 3 PCs. Including one XP which I forced netbeui protocol (can be done) for sharing only. Others espouse using another common protocol which is more difficult to setup and use for sharing in Win98. That's where common sense, if it exists anymore, drops out the window. "That's what they're used to doing" etc. You have to setup ZA to share, its not default there buddy. Read the help stuff. Don't share TCP/IP. This is not an MS issue, just a common sense and ZA read the help arena issue. Using intranet and internet with the two different protocols. Disable sharing with TCP/IP after setting up sharing. Windows will enable sharing with all protocols you have enabled sharing initially. You need to install ZA after all is said and done. Hope the bell is sounding for you. wrote in message ... Intro, Yesterday's project: pc1, pc2, existing cable modem to Netgear rp614na Ethernet router. Per Netgear quick install, Internet worked for both PCs - - Good. Already done: only TCP/IP bindings [1] But current trouble is lack of File & Printer Sharing, as seen when trying to open Entire Network and/or Workgroup and/or individual pc (the other pc). Before installing router, both PCs had had File & Printer Sharing turned off. Probably irrelevant: In Win Network of both PCs, I've tried various settings for File & Printer Sharing: "Disabled", "Enabled", "Automatic", but general result is: some lack of visibility [2] occurs for the PC "Master Browser" set "Disabled". PROGRESS: Web clues told me ZoneAlarm might be the hang up. This was confirmed because both PCs see files properly if I shutdown both ZA. Based on further web clues, I think I should be able to run ZA. Because... 1 Shutdown Za on pc2. ZA on only pc1 with pc2's subnet in pc1 Firewall Zones. Now, pc1 can see pc2 files. 2-way network usability between the PCs. 2 (If pc2 ZA is running, it's ZA shows pc1 subnet IP "blocked" message, when pc1 tries to open Entire Network.) Trying to imitate subnet entry success on pc1, I'd like to add pc1 subnet to pc2 ZA... But pc2's ZA is MISSING FIREWALL ZONES tab!!! So I can't add pc1 subnet to pc2's ZA. . I installed slightly newer ver. ZA[3], but same problem, Firewall Zones tab is not there.[4] I'm wondering if some Windows "Internet Options" or "Network" settings are influencing the Zlsetup to avoid creating the "zones" tab for the firewall dialog of ZoneAlarm. Can anyone suggest .. something? I see this as a ZoneAlarm problem. No clues found in searches on forums.zonelabs.com. I might post there next. Footnotes: ---------- Pc1 and pc2 have different histories, one was Win ME OEM, other was upgrade from 98 SE. Both are now WinME. Both have slightly different IE/Internet Options security settings (leapfrog-like evolution). They have very different hardware (D-link Nic card vs 3com chips on Motherboard . Celeron vs AMD. Etc. ) Their Win Network lists contain different Adapters. (pc1 NDSIWAN, ms Vpn, support, #2, 3com integrated etc. pc2 ms Tv/Video Connection (why? What's this?), d-link, Cnet Pro2000 (Cnet adapter appeared with d-link NIC install)) Both: Primary logon is Windows Logon, though MS Client Networks is still listed. Both now have an automatic logon, user name "default". (password are blank, but for extra security, maybe I could store a password while still have automatic logon at startup?) No IIRC, or interactive games (no need for IPX/SPX). No server or remote access uses anticipated. Standard Netgear router's settings, except I replaced password. [1] Per grc "bondage" pages, I've fiddled with NetBEUI protocol, and bindings. Eventually I noticed that only TCP/IP bindings allow Internet access (because this router uses only TCP/IP?), so I've since Removed NetBEUI. Result: ShieldsUp shows router (maybe with assist from ZA) is stealthing all 1056 ports - good. [2] Lack of visibility are balking at: 1) Entire Network", 2) not seeing workgroup, or 3) not opening the (other) pc to see list of shared folder/printers. After discovering Za blocking, in both PCs' Win Network I've set File & Printer Sharing: "Master Browser" Enabled. [3] ZoneAlarm Free. Zlsetup attempted on pc2 are today's download 5..0.590.043 and a previous recent version 5..0.590.015. That previous 5..0.590.015 is allowing me to use the zones tab on pc1 [4] Firewall Zones tab may have always been missing, when pc2 wasn't networked. But I hadn't any reason to look for the tab. Hmmm.. comparing ZA dialog in both PCs... I see pc2 also lacks the "Preferences" and "Product Info" tabs in "Overview" dialog. And I think "Preferences" (and likely Product Info) were missing before I downloaded the slightly newer Zlsetup. I always choose "clean install" during zlsetup. ---- duplicate posted to msn news server and 'regular' newsgroups(perhaps someone wants to read possible solution.) |
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ZoneAlarm missing Firewall Zones tab for subnet. New NAT router won't show Entire Network.
If you are convinced its a ZA problem, roll back to version 4.5. Version 5 has serious problems-you may have just found another. In any case, ZA 4.5 is clearly more stable and bug free. To do a clean uninstall follow the instruction he http://don.hoover.net/uninstall.html. Don't waste your time on version 5 any more. Dick Kistler |
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ZoneAlarm missing Firewall Zones tab for subnet. New NAT router won't show Entire Network.
I'd found ZA was the trouble (as the trouble seemed to be) Hmm... but, I thought I cross posted, though don't see the post on this ng. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ws.astound.net I do see plenty of useful responses here. (: "N. Miller" wrote in message om... In article , says... Probably irrelevant: In Win Network of both PCs, I've tried various settings for File & Printer Sharing: "Disabled", "Enabled", "Automatic", but general result is: some lack of visibility [2] occurs for the PC "Master Browser" set "Disabled". In my LAN, I have the Windows Me computer running an MTA set with the Master Browser as "Enabled", and the other Windows Me computer set to "Automatic". The MTA reference is only because that computer spends the most time up and running; the computer which is on the longest is the only one which should have the Master Browser enabled. My pcs have been running fine theses few days with both Enabled. I wonder why Master Browser has been given a setting? And wonder why recommendations are always: "Set only one pc as Enable". I doubt I'll carry out an investigation, unless the LAN stops running for causes seemingly related to Master Browser. PROGRESS: Web clues told me ZoneAlarm might be the hang up. This was confirmed because both PCs see files properly if I shutdown both ZA. Based on further web clues, I think I should be able to run ZA. Because... 1 Shutdown Za on pc2. ZA on only pc1 with pc2's subnet in pc1 Firewall Zones. Now, pc1 can see pc2 files. 2-way network usability between the PCs. 2 (If pc2 ZA is running, it's ZA shows pc1 subnet IP "blocked" message, when pc1 tries to open Entire Network.) (As I described in my follow-up to other cross-posted group(s), a bad Za install was to blame. I had updated ZA with a "clean install" per ZA's installer, but apparently the install wasn't *completely* clean. Or my experience resulted from other freak happenstance.) Hmmm. I am kind of stumped about this one. There should only be one subnet; all LAN computers are members of that subnet. If you intend for sharing files and printers between them, that is. The firewalls on all PCs behind the router should all be set to trust all addresses in the router's LAN block. Your LAN IP should be a block in, say 192.168.0.0; with the last dotted quad being anything from 1 to 254. Your ZA firewall should trust all addresses in that range; 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.255, with subnet mask 255.255.255.0. All copies of ZA on all PCs in the LAN should have that established as a trusted network. I think I may have acquired a misuse of the term 'subnet' as I interpreted the term 'subnet' from ZA's "blocked IP" message. The router is 192.168.0.1 pc1 is .2 pc2 is .3 If I find I can change the pcs to some other IPs within .2 to .255 range, then I will (if only to keep numbering non standard in a simple, and self-documented, manner). ZA Help suggests allowing full 255 mask in ZA Firewall Zones, but I prefer fewest necessary IPs (maybe for uselessly paranoid reasons). So, in ZA Firewall Zones, I allowed only the two ip's assigned (term?) by the router ..2 and .3. Trying to imitate subnet entry success on pc1, I'd like to add pc1 subnet to pc2 ZA... But pc2's ZA is MISSING FIREWALL ZONES tab!!! So I can't add pc1 subnet to pc2's ZA. . I installed slightly newer ver. ZA[3], but same problem, Firewall Zones tab is not there.[4] I am not familiar with ZA. Do you have an "Advanced" options setting which needs to be enabled? Or maybe it is set to be on a gateway computer? Your router is your gateway, and any software firewall should ***NOT*** be set as a gateway firewall. I haven't touched anything that says "gateway". I believe I saw "gateway" in only the router config. snip Footnotes: Not relevant. Not relevant. (yes, as I suspected. Footnotes included only out of paranoia (: ) Both: Primary logon is Windows Logon, though MS Client Networks is still listed. Both now have an automatic logon, user name "default". (password are blank, but for extra security, maybe I could store a password while still have automatic logon at startup?) Windows Logon is good. Password isn't really necessary in a trusted physical environment. Thanks for the confirm. The router is supposed provide a 'safe' LAN, and logons are annoying. But, I'll try to stay reasonably aware of news, so when someone manages to crack SPI, I'll search for a new solution. No IIRC, or interactive games (no need for IPX/SPX). No server or remote access uses anticipated. Only affects a need for port forwarding in the router; don't worry about it. Standard Netgear router's settings, except I replaced password. [1] Per grc "bondage" pages, I've fiddled with NetBEUI protocol, and bindings. Eventually I noticed that only TCP/IP bindings allow Internet access (because this router uses only TCP/IP?), so I've since Removed NetBEUI. Result: ShieldsUp shows router (maybe with assist from ZA) is stealthing all 1056 ports - good. Actually, the Internet use TCP/IP. With the router in place, the GRC "bindings" isn't entirely necessary. You can leave NetBIOS accessible behind the router because it should be blocking NetBIOS packets between the LAN and the WAN. ZA is not helping to maintain "stealth" on the router; indeed, you shouldn't see any incoming packets in the ZA logs at all. I'm not using any software LAN (such as MS's NetBEUI/NetBIOS with ICS) And my attempted variations suggest that Netgear can use only TCP/IP for LAN. [2] Lack of visibility are balking at: 1) Entire Network", 2) not seeing workgroup, or 3) not opening the (other) pc to see list of shared folder/printers. After discovering Za blocking, in both PCs' Win Network I've set File & Printer Sharing: "Master Browser" Enabled. Only the computer expected to remain powered up the longest should be the Master Browser; no other computer should be set as the Master Browser. http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sectio...le64-page7.php select one computer that's always or most frequently on that doesn't have a wireless network connection and let it run the Browse Master service TIP: When you disable the Computer Browser service on each machine, keep it shut off until only the Browse Master computer is left. Then turn on the other computers, one by one http://www.buildorbuy.org/browsemaster.html When 2 or more PC's each think they have the Master Browser List, they argue until resolving this conflict which takes on average 15 minutes before normalcy returns and LAN/WAN access returns. Yes, this is by design! Hmm. Maybe I've been lucky. Just coincidence I haven't seen trouble. [3] ZoneAlarm Free. Zlsetup attempted on pc2 are today's download 5..0.590.043 and a previous recent version 5..0.590.015. That previous 5..0.590.015 is allowing me to use the zones tab on pc1 All copies of ZAF should be set to trust all IP addresses assigned by the router. (Exactly, and only, the two IP's Netgear assigns to the two pc's adapters.) [4] Firewall Zones tab may have always been missing, when pc2 wasn't networked. But I hadn't any reason to look for the tab. Hmmm.. comparing ZA dialog in both PCs... I see pc2 also lacks the "Preferences" and "Product Info" tabs in "Overview" dialog. And I think "Preferences" (and likely Product Info) were missing before I downloaded the slightly newer Zlsetup. I always choose "clean install" during zlsetup. Again, I suggest looking for something like an "Advanced" tab. I vaguely recall (from using it three years ago) some such setting. BTW, I gave it up when I discovered that ZAF on a gateway computer could not be set to maximum security. Tiny Personal Firewall, the one which is now called Kerio Personal Firewall, had a special "gateway" setting for a computer acting as the gateway in an ICS setup. Of course, now I have a router, so I don't use that gateway setting. But I got used to using KPF, so it stayed. Similarly, I've been using ZA Free with Proxo (and occasional Adaware and Spybot scans) for a few years, so I'm sticking with those. Mostly in hopes of reducing Win resource wastage, I might try ZA's combo FW+AV. Deciding will depend on news about ZA FW combo with Computer Associates AV. They don't seem to be truly meshed. |
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