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Excruciatingly slow (at times)
I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a
file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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I suspect that you have driver problems......
Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe
mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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Oh, boy!!
That looks as if at some stage, you've done a reinstall of the OS over itself to repair a broken registry - and it's no surprise at all that you've been having problems!! Boot to Safe Mode - then remove the items in groups, rebooting to Normal Mode in between groups, before booting back to Safe Mode. CD-ROM remove all, then reboot Disk Drives - remove ALL, HD Controllers - remove Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller then reboot System - Remove ONLY the following:- System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer then reboot Once you've got everything done, reboot back into Safe Mode again, and check for duplicates again If there's none there, go to Start |Run type SCANREG /FIX and click OK Windows will reboot - go to Normal Mode, and see how the system behaves then. HTH, and good luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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"Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Oh, boy!! That looks as if at some stage, you've done a reinstall of the OS over itself to repair a broken registry - and it's no surprise at all that you've been having problems!! Oh yeah. Like 4 times I reckon? Boot to Safe Mode - then remove the items in groups, rebooting to Normal Mode in between groups, before booting back to Safe Mode. CD-ROM remove all, then reboot Disk Drives - remove ALL, HD Controllers - remove Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller then reboot System - Remove ONLY the following:- System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer then reboot Once you've got everything done, reboot back into Safe Mode again, and check for duplicates again If there's none there, go to Start |Run type SCANREG /FIX and click OK Windows will reboot - go to Normal Mode, and see how the system behaves then. Will post, either way. HTH, and good luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Thanks Ted http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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I know the horse has bolted, but reinstalling the OS is really a last
resort, rather than a quick fix - many times it can leave the system in a worse state than it was in before the reinstall. Reinstalling ME over itself has its own perils - if you had IE6 installed when you reinstalled, then it's very likely that IE no longer works properly, as well as meaning that there's a good chance that many of the Windows Updates were corrupted and need to be reinstalled. we'll work on that when you've got the Device Manager sorted. Good Luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Oh, boy!! That looks as if at some stage, you've done a reinstall of the OS over itself to repair a broken registry - and it's no surprise at all that you've been having problems!! Oh yeah. Like 4 times I reckon? Boot to Safe Mode - then remove the items in groups, rebooting to Normal Mode in between groups, before booting back to Safe Mode. CD-ROM remove all, then reboot Disk Drives - remove ALL, HD Controllers - remove Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller then reboot System - Remove ONLY the following:- System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer then reboot Once you've got everything done, reboot back into Safe Mode again, and check for duplicates again If there's none there, go to Start |Run type SCANREG /FIX and click OK Windows will reboot - go to Normal Mode, and see how the system behaves then. Will post, either way. HTH, and good luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Thanks Ted http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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Well Noel,
I did as instructed, and the results were confirmed in safe mode. Curiously, I still have multiple instances of the ACPI IRQ Holder of PCI IRQ Steering and others under System devices. But, I *did* remove the real time clock, speaker, and timer under this group, successfully. I did not have WindowsME try and look for ANY devices until I deleted the few under System Devices. It then went on to look for devices under the USB root hub, and did not delete the duplicates there, either. The speed issue has not gone away, but I have *successfully* removed much of the extra garbage under system devices. I want to point at the system slowing down right at Nvidia, as I think my updated downloaded driver seemed to muck up the system. Why on earth I need a 11mb file for a simple video card, I have no idea. So, any other suggestions, more than happy to try. As for IE, it works fine now, but it's rarely used, just for the Mrs to get to a secure site that only allows IE as the browser. Otherwise I don't like it. Sorry. And thanks for posting back. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I know the horse has bolted, but reinstalling the OS is really a last resort, rather than a quick fix - many times it can leave the system in a worse state than it was in before the reinstall. Reinstalling ME over itself has its own perils - if you had IE6 installed when you reinstalled, then it's very likely that IE no longer works properly, as well as meaning that there's a good chance that many of the Windows Updates were corrupted and need to be reinstalled. we'll work on that when you've got the Device Manager sorted. Good Luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Oh, boy!! That looks as if at some stage, you've done a reinstall of the OS over itself to repair a broken registry - and it's no surprise at all that you've been having problems!! Oh yeah. Like 4 times I reckon? Boot to Safe Mode - then remove the items in groups, rebooting to Normal Mode in between groups, before booting back to Safe Mode. CD-ROM remove all, then reboot Disk Drives - remove ALL, HD Controllers - remove Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller then reboot System - Remove ONLY the following:- System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer then reboot Once you've got everything done, reboot back into Safe Mode again, and check for duplicates again If there's none there, go to Start |Run type SCANREG /FIX and click OK Windows will reboot - go to Normal Mode, and see how the system behaves then. Will post, either way. HTH, and good luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Thanks Ted http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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Oh yeah, the mouse will also take a tremendous performance hit too. That is
problematic. (It's like the machine is thinking about something, but not doing anything) "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Well Noel, I did as instructed, and the results were confirmed in safe mode. Curiously, I still have multiple instances of the ACPI IRQ Holder of PCI IRQ Steering and others under System devices. But, I *did* remove the real time clock, speaker, and timer under this group, successfully. I did not have WindowsME try and look for ANY devices until I deleted the few under System Devices. It then went on to look for devices under the USB root hub, and did not delete the duplicates there, either. The speed issue has not gone away, but I have *successfully* removed much of the extra garbage under system devices. I want to point at the system slowing down right at Nvidia, as I think my updated downloaded driver seemed to muck up the system. Why on earth I need a 11mb file for a simple video card, I have no idea. So, any other suggestions, more than happy to try. As for IE, it works fine now, but it's rarely used, just for the Mrs to get to a secure site that only allows IE as the browser. Otherwise I don't like it. Sorry. And thanks for posting back. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I know the horse has bolted, but reinstalling the OS is really a last resort, rather than a quick fix - many times it can leave the system in a worse state than it was in before the reinstall. Reinstalling ME over itself has its own perils - if you had IE6 installed when you reinstalled, then it's very likely that IE no longer works properly, as well as meaning that there's a good chance that many of the Windows Updates were corrupted and need to be reinstalled. we'll work on that when you've got the Device Manager sorted. Good Luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Oh, boy!! That looks as if at some stage, you've done a reinstall of the OS over itself to repair a broken registry - and it's no surprise at all that you've been having problems!! Oh yeah. Like 4 times I reckon? Boot to Safe Mode - then remove the items in groups, rebooting to Normal Mode in between groups, before booting back to Safe Mode. CD-ROM remove all, then reboot Disk Drives - remove ALL, HD Controllers - remove Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller then reboot System - Remove ONLY the following:- System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer then reboot Once you've got everything done, reboot back into Safe Mode again, and check for duplicates again If there's none there, go to Start |Run type SCANREG /FIX and click OK Windows will reboot - go to Normal Mode, and see how the system behaves then. Will post, either way. HTH, and good luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Thanks Ted http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but whenever I am trying to save a file to a location other than the default, my machine crawls along, ever so slowly. You know, when I am using that little window that opens when I download from a website, or when I am recording a CD to a location, or stuff. It also happens when I open up and try and explore the contents of my hard disk, too. My wife also seems to see it regularly when she's using a program called TinyTerm to show her an emulated SCO Unix box that represents the office's AR system where she works. So, I ran my virus software and came up with nothing. Same with spyware programs and such. Now, keep in mind, the machine only seems to crawl when using the "Explorer" function within the Operating System that is WinME. I have other problems with the machine as well, such as mismatched hard drive to the IDE controller. But, if that were really the problem it likely wouldn't only occur when the operating system were just performing this one function (or would it?). Any pointers would be appreciated, as this affects the better half more so than me, unfortunately. As to time, never more than 60 seconds or so, but, when your impatient, anything over a second can seem like an eternity. (don't try and copyright that, because by my typing it, I just did) I've also found a program called Larsen Task Info. It's great, but I didn't recognize anything running out of the ordinary except for idle processes. (But, I am NOT an expert and I do not know all that is shown there) TIA Mr Curious |
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OK - we're some of the way there, now!g
Download and run Belarc Advisor from www.belarc.com - see what it reports about the state of your Hotfixes - list any reported as broken/missing and go to the Windows Update Catalog and download them from there, then install them. Once that's done, check with Belarc that everything's OK, and then run a full system scan of all files with your Anti-virus, and with a spyware-killer such as Ad-Aware (www.lavasoft.de), see what they report, and post back with results. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Oh yeah, the mouse will also take a tremendous performance hit too. That is problematic. (It's like the machine is thinking about something, but not doing anything) "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Well Noel, I did as instructed, and the results were confirmed in safe mode. Curiously, I still have multiple instances of the ACPI IRQ Holder of PCI IRQ Steering and others under System devices. But, I *did* remove the real time clock, speaker, and timer under this group, successfully. I did not have WindowsME try and look for ANY devices until I deleted the few under System Devices. It then went on to look for devices under the USB root hub, and did not delete the duplicates there, either. The speed issue has not gone away, but I have *successfully* removed much of the extra garbage under system devices. I want to point at the system slowing down right at Nvidia, as I think my updated downloaded driver seemed to muck up the system. Why on earth I need a 11mb file for a simple video card, I have no idea. So, any other suggestions, more than happy to try. As for IE, it works fine now, but it's rarely used, just for the Mrs to get to a secure site that only allows IE as the browser. Otherwise I don't like it. Sorry. And thanks for posting back. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I know the horse has bolted, but reinstalling the OS is really a last resort, rather than a quick fix - many times it can leave the system in a worse state than it was in before the reinstall. Reinstalling ME over itself has its own perils - if you had IE6 installed when you reinstalled, then it's very likely that IE no longer works properly, as well as meaning that there's a good chance that many of the Windows Updates were corrupted and need to be reinstalled. we'll work on that when you've got the Device Manager sorted. Good Luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Oh, boy!! That looks as if at some stage, you've done a reinstall of the OS over itself to repair a broken registry - and it's no surprise at all that you've been having problems!! Oh yeah. Like 4 times I reckon? Boot to Safe Mode - then remove the items in groups, rebooting to Normal Mode in between groups, before booting back to Safe Mode. CD-ROM remove all, then reboot Disk Drives - remove ALL, HD Controllers - remove Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller then reboot System - Remove ONLY the following:- System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer then reboot Once you've got everything done, reboot back into Safe Mode again, and check for duplicates again If there's none there, go to Start |Run type SCANREG /FIX and click OK Windows will reboot - go to Normal Mode, and see how the system behaves then. Will post, either way. HTH, and good luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Thanks Ted http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) |
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That Belarc seems pretty clever. It reminds me Kryloff's Subject Search
Spider software. Not sure what ever happened to that.... Well, I seem to be stuck on KB 891711 as I cannot get my machine to install it, nor figure out how to find the "file" and grab it myself. But, that was the only patch missing, all else was there. Ran the other stuff too, it's better, I guess. Noel, and I'll post this elsewhere too, in between the time I get my login and after hitting my login (I use a name but no password) sometimes the machine works, sometimes not. Is there an EASY way to tell what drivers and nonesuch are loading at that time as to isolate the offending piece? I mean in DOS days, hitting escape would show you what was happening. Nowadays, I don't know what. Thanks again for your help. Ted "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... OK - we're some of the way there, now!g Download and run Belarc Advisor from www.belarc.com - see what it reports about the state of your Hotfixes - list any reported as broken/missing and go to the Windows Update Catalog and download them from there, then install them. Once that's done, check with Belarc that everything's OK, and then run a full system scan of all files with your Anti-virus, and with a spyware-killer such as Ad-Aware (www.lavasoft.de), see what they report, and post back with results. -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Oh yeah, the mouse will also take a tremendous performance hit too. That is problematic. (It's like the machine is thinking about something, but not doing anything) "ng_reader" wrote in message ... Well Noel, I did as instructed, and the results were confirmed in safe mode. Curiously, I still have multiple instances of the ACPI IRQ Holder of PCI IRQ Steering and others under System devices. But, I *did* remove the real time clock, speaker, and timer under this group, successfully. I did not have WindowsME try and look for ANY devices until I deleted the few under System Devices. It then went on to look for devices under the USB root hub, and did not delete the duplicates there, either. The speed issue has not gone away, but I have *successfully* removed much of the extra garbage under system devices. I want to point at the system slowing down right at Nvidia, as I think my updated downloaded driver seemed to muck up the system. Why on earth I need a 11mb file for a simple video card, I have no idea. So, any other suggestions, more than happy to try. As for IE, it works fine now, but it's rarely used, just for the Mrs to get to a secure site that only allows IE as the browser. Otherwise I don't like it. Sorry. And thanks for posting back. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I know the horse has bolted, but reinstalling the OS is really a last resort, rather than a quick fix - many times it can leave the system in a worse state than it was in before the reinstall. Reinstalling ME over itself has its own perils - if you had IE6 installed when you reinstalled, then it's very likely that IE no longer works properly, as well as meaning that there's a good chance that many of the Windows Updates were corrupted and need to be reinstalled. we'll work on that when you've got the Device Manager sorted. Good Luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... Oh, boy!! That looks as if at some stage, you've done a reinstall of the OS over itself to repair a broken registry - and it's no surprise at all that you've been having problems!! Oh yeah. Like 4 times I reckon? Boot to Safe Mode - then remove the items in groups, rebooting to Normal Mode in between groups, before booting back to Safe Mode. CD-ROM remove all, then reboot Disk Drives - remove ALL, HD Controllers - remove Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller then reboot System - Remove ONLY the following:- System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer then reboot Once you've got everything done, reboot back into Safe Mode again, and check for duplicates again If there's none there, go to Start |Run type SCANREG /FIX and click OK Windows will reboot - go to Normal Mode, and see how the system behaves then. Will post, either way. HTH, and good luck -- Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) Nil Carborundum Illegitemi http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm Thanks Ted http://tinyurl.com/6oztj Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's "ng_reader" wrote in message ... My Text of results is included within my reply. Took me a while in safe mode to type into notepad. following your instructions explicitly, however only road bump was under 1st reboot to normal, machine locked on splash screen, so had to hit reset button. "Noel Paton" wrote in message ... I suspect that you have driver problems...... Reboot to Safe Mode Open Device Manager REMOVE all yellow or red-flagged entries REMOVE all entries in the 'Other Devices' branch - if present Reboot to Normal Mode - Windows will reinstall any required drivers. Reboot again to Normal Mode - then reboot back into Safe Mode - Now make a note of ANY device drivers that are duplicated, or have yellow or red flags against them - and another set for any that have green flags. post back with your results. Under CDROM: =============== Duplicated: ATAPI CDROM Triplicated: Generic DVD RW 8XMax Quadruplicated: TEAC CD-W54E Under Disk drives: ================ Duplicated: GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 47 GENERIC NEC FLOPPY DISK Quadruplicated: IOMEGA ZIP 100 Duplicated: WDC WD16 00JB-00EVA0 Under Hard Disk Controllers: ================= Duplicated: Primary IDE controller (single fifo) Secondary IDE controller (single fifo) Standard Dual PCI IDE Controller Under keyboard: ================ Duplicated: Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard Under Monitor: ================ Duplicated: Default Monitor Under Sound, video and game controllers: ================ Duplicated: Gameport Joystick Under System devices: ================ Quadruplicated: ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering Duplicated: Direct memory access controller Numerica data processor Programable interupt controller System CMOS/real time clock System speaker System timer Under Universal Serial Bus controllers: =============== Duplicated: USB Root Hub VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller ++++++++++++++++ Not having any duplicates nor warnings: BTW (bluetooth controller) Creative Miscellaneous Devices (installed SB Live) Display Adapters (AGP 4X installed) Floppy Disk Controllers Modem (ext. sportster attached) Mouse (although in "normal" mode I may get the "!") Network Adapters (am using a PCI NIC with two [2} Ethernet jacks) Ports SCSI contollers (It's a VOB InstantDrive controller) +++++++++++++++++ Thanks to anyone if they can help!!! (Especially Noel Paton, MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows) |
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