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Mart, Yes, I know that too well. Tony has been warned! Anyway he used his recovey disk and that's it. At least he had backups of what he wanted to keep. Thanks for the comments. Zee "Mart" wrote in message ... Doubt if Mike will be the slightest bit interested Zee. I notice that the dreaded word Norton appears several times in his Forum posts - cunningly airbrushed out of the WinMe posts! Forums?, No updates?? - Norton??? And you know how Mike feels about Norton!!! g Even a (very) long bargepole is probably the last thing Mike would be prepared to touch it with. No sympathy there then! Perhaps "Yea Thanks Norton" might be more appropriate subject of the thread. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... No problem, the idea was avoiding Tony to post here everything he has tried. I had no intention of asking you to post there. Sorry if you understood it that way. Zee "Mike M" wrote in message ... Zee, I'm sorry but I don't "do" web forums. I'm sure you'll be able to provide him with all the help he needs. -- Mike M oops!! wrote: Hi Mike, I've been trying to help Tony he http://forums.techguy.org/windows-95...r-windows.html Rather than him posting his long troubleshooter, perhaps you can take a look at the thread and post here your comments and suggestions. I'll be quietly listening... |
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LOL - I'm hoping Mike will forgive me for any Norton indiscretions.
The trouble is - particularly here in the UK for the ignorant average user like me Mcafee and Norton are typically the only two packaged "must have" applications and it is only through encountering serious problems that we see the light. :-D. Although Norton prevented me from using any Windows restores it doesn't (too me) appear to be the cause of my woes. When deciding to clean up the old PC for networking purposes I opened Ad-Aware SE and requested web updates. It would appear (and other www threads seem to confirm) that this has caused EXE/LNK association failures. After all the problems at least I have a clean and beauifiully running ME desktop - for now. "Mart" wrote: Doubt if Mike will be the slightest bit interested Zee. I notice that the dreaded word Norton appears several times in his Forum posts - cunningly airbrushed out of the WinMe posts! Forums?, No updates?? - Norton??? And you know how Mike feels about Norton!!! g Even a (very) long bargepole is probably the last thing Mike would be prepared to touch it with. No sympathy there then! Perhaps "Yea Thanks Norton" might be more appropriate subject of the thread. Mart "oops!!" wrote in message ... No problem, the idea was avoiding Tony to post here everything he has tried. I had no intention of asking you to post there. Sorry if you understood it that way. Zee "Mike M" wrote in message ... Zee, I'm sorry but I don't "do" web forums. I'm sure you'll be able to provide him with all the help he needs. -- Mike M oops!! wrote: Hi Mike, I've been trying to help Tony he http://forums.techguy.org/windows-95...r-windows.html Rather than him posting his long troubleshooter, perhaps you can take a look at the thread and post here your comments and suggestions. I'll be quietly listening... |
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Tony,
I'm glad to read that you are now fit to go. Incidentally both Mart and myself are in the UK so that isn't a very good excuse vbg for having Norton installed. Norton/Symantec's track record is pretty bad regardless of which OS is in use but is particularly appalling when it comes to Win Me and should NEVER be installed, if only in an attempt to save the sanity of the user. I'm somewhat surprised to read that you think that using Adaware SE caused you to lose the ability to execute files or use links, certainly this isn't something I recall ever having come across before on either Win Me or any other OS. Loss of EXE functionality can often be the result of malware although in truth more confined to the likes of regedit.exe and various AV and firewall executables all in an attempt to prevent ready removal of the malware. Nevertheless I'm pleased to read that all appears to now be OK. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows Tony1966 wrote: LOL - I'm hoping Mike will forgive me for any Norton indiscretions. The trouble is - particularly here in the UK for the ignorant average user like me Mcafee and Norton are typically the only two packaged "must have" applications and it is only through encountering serious problems that we see the light. :-D. Although Norton prevented me from using any Windows restores it doesn't (too me) appear to be the cause of my woes. When deciding to clean up the old PC for networking purposes I opened Ad-Aware SE and requested web updates. It would appear (and other www threads seem to confirm) that this has caused EXE/LNK association failures. After all the problems at least I have a clean and beauifiully running ME desktop - for now. |
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Mike,
I didn't make myself clear enough - sorry. It is when you go to the well know national PC/electrical stores that you don't see, or get offered a wide range of firewall/virus options presumably because there is some sort of incentive offered between the companies to promote their software. Similarly switching ISPs, as I have recently done tends to come with "free" 12 month subscription to one of the big two. It's the typical marketing economy to the illiterate PC majority. In the same way the best burgers are anything but McDonalds but you rarely see those either advertised or promoted by other means. Fortunately my lack of expertise in PCs is made up for by my expertise in food I know enough to know that when I have problems there are great places to come on the web to get answers to problems and recommendations as to future use. Ad-Aware SE is only an educated guess when I was trying to work back step by step to what I had done I came across a number of articles on the web about people that appear to have had similar problems to me, though there appears to be no CONSENSUS on whether this is a true confirmed fault or just wild suspicions like mine. This differs significantly from Norton where I've always been well aware of how it slows down your computer and I'm now only too aware of other issues it can cause. I've had advice from oops on suggested firewall/virus/spyware etc protection but I'd really be interested in your own thoughts and recommendations into protecting my ME environment. I'm already pretty tight on the Internet Options I permit through IE. but again your insight would be appreciated Tony "Mike M" wrote: Tony, I'm glad to read that you are now fit to go. Incidentally both Mart and myself are in the UK so that isn't a very good excuse vbg for having Norton installed. Norton/Symantec's track record is pretty bad regardless of which OS is in use but is particularly appalling when it comes to Win Me and should NEVER be installed, if only in an attempt to save the sanity of the user. I'm somewhat surprised to read that you think that using Adaware SE caused you to lose the ability to execute files or use links, certainly this isn't something I recall ever having come across before on either Win Me or any other OS. Loss of EXE functionality can often be the result of malware although in truth more confined to the likes of regedit.exe and various AV and firewall executables all in an attempt to prevent ready removal of the malware. Nevertheless I'm pleased to read that all appears to now be OK. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows Tony1966 wrote: LOL - I'm hoping Mike will forgive me for any Norton indiscretions. The trouble is - particularly here in the UK for the ignorant average user like me Mcafee and Norton are typically the only two packaged "must have" applications and it is only through encountering serious problems that we see the light. :-D. Although Norton prevented me from using any Windows restores it doesn't (too me) appear to be the cause of my woes. When deciding to clean up the old PC for networking purposes I opened Ad-Aware SE and requested web updates. It would appear (and other www threads seem to confirm) that this has caused EXE/LNK association failures. After all the problems at least I have a clean and beauifiully running ME desktop - for now. |
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and if you're really bored, forums on lavasoftsupport.com is one place where
this is discussed but not exactly resolved. "Tony1966" wrote: Mike, I didn't make myself clear enough - sorry. It is when you go to the well know national PC/electrical stores that you don't see, or get offered a wide range of firewall/virus options presumably because there is some sort of incentive offered between the companies to promote their software. Similarly switching ISPs, as I have recently done tends to come with "free" 12 month subscription to one of the big two. It's the typical marketing economy to the illiterate PC majority. In the same way the best burgers are anything but McDonalds but you rarely see those either advertised or promoted by other means. Fortunately my lack of expertise in PCs is made up for by my expertise in food I know enough to know that when I have problems there are great places to come on the web to get answers to problems and recommendations as to future use. Ad-Aware SE is only an educated guess when I was trying to work back step by step to what I had done I came across a number of articles on the web about people that appear to have had similar problems to me, though there appears to be no CONSENSUS on whether this is a true confirmed fault or just wild suspicions like mine. This differs significantly from Norton where I've always been well aware of how it slows down your computer and I'm now only too aware of other issues it can cause. I've had advice from oops on suggested firewall/virus/spyware etc protection but I'd really be interested in your own thoughts and recommendations into protecting my ME environment. I'm already pretty tight on the Internet Options I permit through IE. but again your insight would be appreciated Tony "Mike M" wrote: Tony, I'm glad to read that you are now fit to go. Incidentally both Mart and myself are in the UK so that isn't a very good excuse vbg for having Norton installed. Norton/Symantec's track record is pretty bad regardless of which OS is in use but is particularly appalling when it comes to Win Me and should NEVER be installed, if only in an attempt to save the sanity of the user. I'm somewhat surprised to read that you think that using Adaware SE caused you to lose the ability to execute files or use links, certainly this isn't something I recall ever having come across before on either Win Me or any other OS. Loss of EXE functionality can often be the result of malware although in truth more confined to the likes of regedit.exe and various AV and firewall executables all in an attempt to prevent ready removal of the malware. Nevertheless I'm pleased to read that all appears to now be OK. -- Mike Maltby MS-MVP Windows Tony1966 wrote: LOL - I'm hoping Mike will forgive me for any Norton indiscretions. The trouble is - particularly here in the UK for the ignorant average user like me Mcafee and Norton are typically the only two packaged "must have" applications and it is only through encountering serious problems that we see the light. :-D. Although Norton prevented me from using any Windows restores it doesn't (too me) appear to be the cause of my woes. When deciding to clean up the old PC for networking purposes I opened Ad-Aware SE and requested web updates. It would appear (and other www threads seem to confirm) that this has caused EXE/LNK association failures. After all the problems at least I have a clean and beauifiully running ME desktop - for now. |
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Sorry but I've better things to do with my time g than reading about
this apparent problem. As I have already mentioned no-one has previously felt the need to post about this to any of the Microsoft Win Me newsgroups since Ad-Aware was launched and it's not a problem I've ever seen on any of my various PCs. Likewise it has never featured as being a problem with Ad-Aware in any of the various security newsgroups to which I subscribe, both private and public. -- Mike Maltby 966 wrote: and if you're really bored, forums on lavasoftsupport.com is one place where this is discussed but not exactly resolved. |
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I didn't make myself clear enough - sorry.
You did. However you seem to have missed the gist of my post where I was trying to say that living in the UK isn't an excuse for users having an unwanted AV solution imposed on them when they purchase a new PC. This is standard practice world-wide. As for Norton/Symantec their appalling track record over the last decade is also pretty well documented in both newsgroups and web forums. I've had advice from oops on suggested firewall/virus/spyware etc protection but I'd really be interested in your own thoughts and recommendations into protecting my ME environment. I have no knowledge of how you connect to the internet but if using ADSL or cable the very first thing I would do would be to use a router even if only using a single PC. Enable NAT (Network Address Translation) on the router and this will provide a very effective firewall, so good in fact that this no longer becomes a major issue with the OS however if you want both belt and braces suitable firewalls commonly used that work reasonably well with Win Me are early versions of Kerio, formerly Tiny, (v2.1.5 works well with Win Me) and Zone Alarm (versions up to and including 6.1.744.001). AV - AVG (from Grisoft), Panda, Trend, Computer Associates, NOD32 and Kaspersky and Computer Associates AV (stick with just the AV component of their internet suite). I wouldn't recommend McAfee although this has improved and strongly recommend that you avoid any product with the Symantec of Norton label as most cause major problems with Win Me. Personally I'm currently using Atwill's Avast! on Vista, XP64 and XP x86 systems, NOD32 on XP, CA on XP and Win Me and have an old Win Me that uses AVG although have to admit I rarely use that box nowadays. Note I multi-boot and have numerous operating systems installed on the same PC, likewise I use Virtual Machines (where an operating system such as Win Me can run in a window on say XP) which is why I have so many systems AntiSpyware - Lots of possibilities here but here again personally I tend not to have anything actually running but do use AdAware SE and Spybot Search & Destroy with Win Me. -- Mike Maltby Tony1966 wrote: Mike, I didn't make myself clear enough - sorry. It is when you go to the well know national PC/electrical stores that you don't see, or get offered a wide range of firewall/virus options presumably because there is some sort of incentive offered between the companies to promote their software. Similarly switching ISPs, as I have recently done tends to come with "free" 12 month subscription to one of the big two. It's the typical marketing economy to the illiterate PC majority. In the same way the best burgers are anything but McDonalds but you rarely see those either advertised or promoted by other means. Fortunately my lack of expertise in PCs is made up for by my expertise in food I know enough to know that when I have problems there are great places to come on the web to get answers to problems and recommendations as to future use. Ad-Aware SE is only an educated guess when I was trying to work back step by step to what I had done I came across a number of articles on the web about people that appear to have had similar problems to me, though there appears to be no CONSENSUS on whether this is a true confirmed fault or just wild suspicions like mine. This differs significantly from Norton where I've always been well aware of how it slows down your computer and I'm now only too aware of other issues it can cause. I've had advice from oops on suggested firewall/virus/spyware etc protection but I'd really be interested in your own thoughts and recommendations into protecting my ME environment. I'm already pretty tight on the Internet Options I permit through IE. but again your insight would be appreciated |
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Thanks for the comments and feedback on set up - I used Kerio in the dim and
distant past as well as a few free virus + ad/spyware apps so I guess I have a busy day tomorrow I've a Netgear DG834GT Router - with desktop ME via Ethernet and new wireless Vista laptop. I've already changed router password and WPA-PSK network code - anyone could've guessed the original. The router has a built in firewall configured to factory settings so that's another thing for me to read re optimal configuration but there's another forum I'm part of that will sort out that and the NAT question. "Mike M" wrote: I didn't make myself clear enough - sorry. You did. However you seem to have missed the gist of my post where I was trying to say that living in the UK isn't an excuse for users having an unwanted AV solution imposed on them when they purchase a new PC. This is standard practice world-wide. As for Norton/Symantec their appalling track record over the last decade is also pretty well documented in both newsgroups and web forums. I've had advice from oops on suggested firewall/virus/spyware etc protection but I'd really be interested in your own thoughts and recommendations into protecting my ME environment. I have no knowledge of how you connect to the internet but if using ADSL or cable the very first thing I would do would be to use a router even if only using a single PC. Enable NAT (Network Address Translation) on the router and this will provide a very effective firewall, so good in fact that this no longer becomes a major issue with the OS however if you want both belt and braces suitable firewalls commonly used that work reasonably well with Win Me are early versions of Kerio, formerly Tiny, (v2.1.5 works well with Win Me) and Zone Alarm (versions up to and including 6.1.744.001). AV - AVG (from Grisoft), Panda, Trend, Computer Associates, NOD32 and Kaspersky and Computer Associates AV (stick with just the AV component of their internet suite). I wouldn't recommend McAfee although this has improved and strongly recommend that you avoid any product with the Symantec of Norton label as most cause major problems with Win Me. Personally I'm currently using Atwill's Avast! on Vista, XP64 and XP x86 systems, NOD32 on XP, CA on XP and Win Me and have an old Win Me that uses AVG although have to admit I rarely use that box nowadays. Note I multi-boot and have numerous operating systems installed on the same PC, likewise I use Virtual Machines (where an operating system such as Win Me can run in a window on say XP) which is why I have so many systems AntiSpyware - Lots of possibilities here but here again personally I tend not to have anything actually running but do use AdAware SE and Spybot Search & Destroy with Win Me. -- Mike Maltby Tony1966 wrote: Mike, I didn't make myself clear enough - sorry. It is when you go to the well know national PC/electrical stores that you don't see, or get offered a wide range of firewall/virus options presumably because there is some sort of incentive offered between the companies to promote their software. Similarly switching ISPs, as I have recently done tends to come with "free" 12 month subscription to one of the big two. It's the typical marketing economy to the illiterate PC majority. In the same way the best burgers are anything but McDonalds but you rarely see those either advertised or promoted by other means. Fortunately my lack of expertise in PCs is made up for by my expertise in food I know enough to know that when I have problems there are great places to come on the web to get answers to problems and recommendations as to future use. Ad-Aware SE is only an educated guess when I was trying to work back step by step to what I had done I came across a number of articles on the web about people that appear to have had similar problems to me, though there appears to be no CONSENSUS on whether this is a true confirmed fault or just wild suspicions like mine. This differs significantly from Norton where I've always been well aware of how it slows down your computer and I'm now only too aware of other issues it can cause. I've had advice from oops on suggested firewall/virus/spyware etc protection but I'd really be interested in your own thoughts and recommendations into protecting my ME environment. I'm already pretty tight on the Internet Options I permit through IE. but again your insight would be appreciated |
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Just discovered NAT is standard enabled on the router
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