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Moving 80 gigs from one spot on a USB drive to another spot on the same drivee
Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote: Bill Blanton wrote: On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote: BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always comes up with zero new posts! I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too busy, but never a month between posts. Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for that long. OK, thanks. There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?) I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce (which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day (I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After returning, I see nothing new there! Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an hour! Can you post there? -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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In message , PCR
writes: Bill Blanton wrote: On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote: Bill Blanton wrote: On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote: BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always comes up with zero new posts! I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too busy, but never a month between posts. Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for that long. OK, thanks. There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?) I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce (which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day (I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After returning, I see nothing new there! Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an hour! Can you post there? Could it be that it's no longer on a newsserver you use - either they've dropped it, or you've stopped using the relevant server (you did mention quitting something)? I don't know how OE handles this situation, especially if you haven't done a refresh newsgroup list (?) so that (?) it still thinks it is a valid newsgroup. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf People wear anoraks because it's cold outside and it rains, not to annoy the editors of style magazines. - Ben Elton, Radio Times 18-24 April 1998 |
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On 11/7/2010 05:31, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , PCR writes: Bill Blanton wrote: On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote: Bill Blanton wrote: On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote: BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always comes up with zero new posts! I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too busy, but never a month between posts. Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for that long. OK, thanks. There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?) I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce (which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day (I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After returning, I see nothing new there! Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an hour! Can you post there? Didn't try, but there's a big thread about it in public.tech.gen. "New Server" dated 10/7. Others are having problems fixing it. Could it be that it's no longer on a newsserver you use - either they've dropped it, or you've stopped using the relevant server (you did mention quitting something)? New server ;-) I don't know how OE handles this situation, especially if you haven't done a refresh newsgroup list (?) so that (?) it still thinks it is a valid newsgroup. I think you have to unsubscribe and then resubscibe. |
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On 11/6/2010 20:31, PCR wrote:
Now I've tried to post to it& failed! No error message, the post is in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an hour! Can you post there? Using TBird I unsubscibed and re-subscribed and now get in.. You post did make it through and you have some replies ;-) |
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , PCR writes: Bill Blanton wrote: On 11/5/2010 14:46, PCR wrote: Bill Blanton wrote: On 11/4/2010 22:54, PCR wrote: BTW, do you still monitor "public.apps.bootitng" through their server "terabyteunlimited.com"? I'm not seeing any new posts showing up at that NG since early in September. Can it be no one is posting there anymore? OE goes through the motions, but always comes up with zero new posts! I noticed that too. Last post I see is on 10/2. Its never been too busy, but never a month between posts. Ah! I'd been looking mildly through my NG settings& was about to scour them! Now I'll wait a bit longer before starting. Your extra month of activity is explainable by my absence from the NET for that long. OK, thanks. There's some activity in public.tech.general (that's a new one?) I don't watch that one, just public.apps.bootitng & public.announce (which hasn't announced anything since 8/3/2009). I should investigate this thing. I recall public.apps.bootitng got posts almost every day (I'm almost sure) before I quit the NET about 2 months ago. After returning, I see nothing new there! Now I've tried to post to it & failed! No error message, the post is in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an hour! Can you post there? Could it be that it's no longer on a newsserver you use - either they've dropped it, or you've stopped using the relevant server (you did mention quitting something)? I don't know how OE handles this situation, especially if you haven't done a refresh newsgroup list (?) so that (?) it still thinks it is a valid newsgroup. Thanks for jumping in. It looks like Blanton has got my problem more than 3/4 solved, though. Stuff is coming in -- lots of it -- but I have a suspicion I'm not getting every last thing. But I'm getting enough. OK, thanks. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Bill Blanton wrote:
On 11/6/2010 20:31, PCR wrote: Now I've tried to post to it& failed! No error message, the post is in OE's Sent Items -- but not at "public.apps.bootitng" after over half an hour! Can you post there? Using TBird I unsubscibed and re-subscribed and now get in.. You post did make it through and you have some replies ;-) Hmm. Odd it got through & I couldn't see it. So, as you posted elsewhere, I un/re-subscribed & even reset both NG's. Public.announce had an announcement after all... ===Quote==New Server 10/07/2010======= terabyteunlimited.com has been moved to a new server which may cause problems with newsreaders that were already configured to access the newsgroup. Common problems are no new messages being detected or unable to track threads. To correct the issue you may need to delete the existing newsgroup account from the newsreader and set it up again. ===EOQ============================ ....that came in now with only 11 other posts. I'm sure some are missing! I know for sure there was an 8/3/2009 post I no longer see. n ow the latest other than quoted above is dated 11/27/08. Looks like I'm supposed to get 17,385 posts into public.apps.bootitng. We'll see what does arrive. OK, thanks, Blanton. I'll reserch that thread in public.tech.general should I want more. It's going to take a while to read in these 17,000, though. Looks like they come in 2 per second. OK, bye. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Hmm I miss something!
Boy i was lock out of my Xp PC and had to Reinstall it, have not setup Windows Live Mail to get the News Groups back, he get my Dam Windows ME too, and my wim98 Server too, But the old System. ez. to get back up and running i put a good lock on my Xp Back Door, i hope this time LOOL! And i have some TEST info for you Have just get some HP update have to ReStart PC |
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Hot-Text wrote:
Hmm I miss something! Everything seems to be OK now, if you're referring to my problem. Boy i was lock out of my Xp PC and had to Reinstall it, have not setup Windows Live Mail to get the News Groups back, he get my Dam Windows ME too, and my wim98 Server too, Sounds like a catastrophe times three. But the old System. ez. to get back up and running i put a good lock on my Xp Back Door, i hope this time LOOL! Looks like you're back up & running all right. Very good. Sounds like it was a virus. And i have some TEST info for you Have just get some HP update have to ReStart PC OK. If possible, put your info in the relevant part of this thread -- up above! -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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Timothy Daniels wrote:
"PCR" wrote: [.......] An Extended Partition is itself actually a non-bootable Primary Partition which is a container for multiple Logical Partitions.... Perhaps "non-booting" would be a better term than "non-bootable" because an OS within a logical drive inside an Extended Partition can be booted using the boot loader (e.g. ntldr for WinNT/2K/XP) that can be in the Boot Sector of any one of the Primary Partitions. IOW, in WinXP, one can have the MBR of the drive with the highest boot priority (the "boot drive") pass control to the Primary Partition marked "active" on that drive, and the boot.ini boot menu in that active partition can point to an OS residing in ANY partition - including a logical drive within the Extended Partition - and boot load that OS. I expect that the same flexibility exists for WinVista and Win7. The restriction imposed on OSes residing on logical drives within Extended Partitions is that their boot loader must be on one of the Primary Partitions. The implication of this is that an OS clone can reside anywhere in the system - on any partition (Primary or Extended) and on any enabled internal hard drive - and it can be booted to running status without an intermediate "restoration" step needed for OS "images". I believe this also includes external eSATA hard drives if the motherboard has an eSATA controller. *TimDaniels* I've found a more thorough explaination of what you've said... http://thpc.info/dual/bootsequence.html Boot Sequence in a Windows Dual-Boot Explained It's a bit of a mind-twister, though, that the System partition (marked Active in the MBR) contains the boot files (NTLoader/IO.sys, etc.) & the Boot partition contains the system files (Windows directory, etc.). The System partition must be a Primary partition on the primary controller. And the Boot partition can be anywhere, even inside an extended partition on a second hard drive. (It looks like even Win98 may be able to that using MSDOS! [which, actually, Chauvin may have brought up here once long ago].) -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, Should things get worse after this, PCR |
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage PCR wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote: "PCR" wrote: [.......] An Extended Partition is itself actually a non-bootable Primary Partition which is a container for multiple Logical Partitions.... Perhaps "non-booting" would be a better term than "non-bootable" because an OS within a logical drive inside an Extended Partition can be booted using the boot loader (e.g. ntldr for WinNT/2K/XP) that can be in the Boot Sector of any one of the Primary Partitions. IOW, in WinXP, one can have the MBR of the drive with the highest boot priority (the "boot drive") pass control to the Primary Partition marked "active" on that drive, and the boot.ini boot menu in that active partition can point to an OS residing in ANY partition - including a logical drive within the Extended Partition - and boot load that OS. I expect that the same flexibility exists for WinVista and Win7. The restriction imposed on OSes residing on logical drives within Extended Partitions is that their boot loader must be on one of the Primary Partitions. The implication of this is that an OS clone can reside anywhere in the system - on any partition (Primary or Extended) and on any enabled internal hard drive - and it can be booted to running status without an intermediate "restoration" step needed for OS "images". I believe this also includes external eSATA hard drives if the motherboard has an eSATA controller. *TimDaniels* I've found a more thorough explaination of what you've said... http://thpc.info/dual/bootsequence.html Boot Sequence in a Windows Dual-Boot Explained It's a bit of a mind-twister, though, that the System partition (marked Active in the MBR) contains the boot files (NTLoader/IO.sys, etc.) & the Boot partition contains the system files (Windows directory, etc.). The System partition must be a Primary partition on the primary controller. And the Boot partition can be anywhere, even inside an extended partition on a second hard drive. (It looks like even Win98 may be able to that using MSDOS! [which, actually, Chauvin may have brought up here once long ago].) Just MS screwing things up and making them sognificantly more complex than needed, as usual. The Linux boot process consists of loading the kernel into memory (by whatever means), passing it the commandline with the root device and starting its execution. The kernel does not even need to be on disk anywhere in this process and you can also compile the commandline statically in, if you like. Arno -- Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: GnuPG: ID: 1E25338F FP: 0C30 5782 9D93 F785 E79C 0296 797F 6B50 1E25 338F ---- Cuddly UI's are the manifestation of wishful thinking. -- Dylan Evans |
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