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How can I fix Explorer crashing before things even get going?
I run Teatimer part of Spybot that manually asks me if I want to make
what I think are registry changes. I was trying to make my computer more secure from some guests that I was going to let use my computer running windows 98SE. I removed my password from my AOL dialup connection and passwords on both fFirefox and MS Internet Explorer at hotmail’s login to my mailbox. Teatimer asked if I wanted to make the change(s?) and I was not thinking and said no. Since it was me making the changes I should not have done my usually no answer when it happens out of the blue that it says something or someone is trying to make a change while online. I restarted the computer only to find that it boots all the way to my desktop background photo and then I get an error box. The error box is titled Explorer … this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down If this problem persists, contact the program vendor. If I click close I get a moveable arrow cursor but nothing else happens. If I click on details in the error box it says: Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module Explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. Registers: Yada yada yada (if it will help I will add all the information it says but it is a paragraph’s worth. The change that Teatimer wanted to ok to make I am not sure of when one talks about registries is it involve one or more of the three files the User.dat, System.dat and Policy.pol. with the problem most likely in User.dat? If I boot into save mode the same thing happens I get to the desktop with no icons and the error box comes up. Please help how can I get past this problem without reinstalling the OS? |
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How can I fix Explorer crashing before things even get going?
DJW wrote:
I run Teatimer part of Spybot that manually asks me if I want to make what I think are registry changes. I was trying to make my computer more secure from some guests that I was going to let use my computer running windows 98SE. I removed my password from my AOL dialup connection and passwords on both fFirefox and MS Internet Explorer at hotmail's login to my mailbox. Teatimer asked if I wanted to make the change(s?) and I was not thinking and said no. Since it was me making the changes I should not have done my usually no answer when it happens out of the blue that it says something or someone is trying to make a change while online. I restarted the computer only to find that it boots all the way to my desktop background photo and then I get an error box. The error box is titled Explorer . this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down If this problem persists, contact the program vendor. If I click close I get a moveable arrow cursor but nothing else happens. If I click on details in the error box it says: Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module Explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. Registers: Yada yada yada (if it will help I will add all the information it says but it is a paragraph's worth. The change that Teatimer wanted to ok to make I am not sure of when one talks about registries is it involve one or more of the three files the User.dat, System.dat and Policy.pol. with the problem most likely in User.dat? If I boot into save mode the same thing happens I get to the desktop with no icons and the error box comes up. Please help how can I get past this problem without reinstalling the OS? Can you boot into DOS mode (true DOS) and run "scanreg /restore" at the DOS prompt to restore a good previous backup? The main point being, you'd need a clean registry cab file that predates this incident. Of course, if it's been a week, it's probably even too late for that. Also keep in mind that if you do this, it will remove another old registry backup, so you'd better save some copies elsewhere beforehand. |
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How can I fix Explorer crashing before things even get going?
On Jan 14, 8:58*pm, "Bill in Co"
wrote: DJW wrote: I run Teatimer part of Spybot that manually asks me if I want to make what I think are registry changes. I was trying to make my computer more secure from some guests that I was going to let use my computer running windows 98SE. I removed my password from my AOL dialup connection and *passwords on both fFirefox and MS Internet Explorer at hotmail's login to my mailbox. Teatimer asked if I wanted to make the change(s?) and I was not thinking and said no. Since it was me making the changes I should not have done my usually no answer when it happens out of the blue that it says something or someone is trying to make a change while online. I restarted the computer only to find that it boots all the way to my desktop background photo and then I get an error box. The error box is titled Explorer . this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down If this problem persists, contact the program vendor. If I click close I get a moveable arrow cursor but nothing else happens. If I click on details in the error box it says: Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module Explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. Registers: Yada yada yada (if it will help I will add all the information it says but it is a paragraph's worth. The change that Teatimer wanted to ok to make I am not sure of when one talks about registries is it involve one or more of the three files the User.dat, System.dat and Policy.pol. with the problem most likely in User.dat? If I boot into save mode the same thing happens I get to the desktop with no icons and the error box comes up. Please help how can I get past this problem without reinstalling the OS? Can you boot into DOS mode (true DOS) and run "scanreg /restore" at the DOS prompt to restore a good previous backup? * * The main point being, you'd need a clean registry cab file that predates this incident. *Of course, if it's been a week, it's probably even too late for that. * Also keep in mind that if you do this, it will remove another old registry backup, so you'd better save some copies elsewhere beforehand. Yes I can boot into dos using a 98SE startup floppy disk. Is that what you mean. or do you mean to be able to boot DOS from the hard drive which I have not tried. not sure how I can get a shutdown/restart box. Been turning it off with control, alt, delete and then choosing shutdown in the force exit app. box. And I have restarted a ton of times trying to work out the problem. This happened a month ago so have been using a laptop instead as my primary computer so the date on the files would be old that I would need to restore too. Each time I boot does it save a copy at shutdown? And if I never boot successfully does it still save one and that replaces the previously saved one? Not sure how it all works. |
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How can I fix Explorer crashing before things even get going?
DJW wrote:
On Jan 14, 8:58 pm, "Bill in Co" wrote: DJW wrote: I run Teatimer part of Spybot that manually asks me if I want to make what I think are registry changes. I was trying to make my computer more secure from some guests that I was going to let use my computer running windows 98SE. I removed my password from my AOL dialup connection and passwords on both fFirefox and MS Internet Explorer at hotmail's login to my mailbox. Teatimer asked if I wanted to make the change(s?) and I was not thinking and said no. Since it was me making the changes I should not have done my usually no answer when it happens out of the blue that it says something or someone is trying to make a change while online. I restarted the computer only to find that it boots all the way to my desktop background photo and then I get an error box. The error box is titled Explorer . this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down If this problem persists, contact the program vendor. If I click close I get a moveable arrow cursor but nothing else happens. If I click on details in the error box it says: Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module Explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. Registers: Yada yada yada (if it will help I will add all the information it says but it is a paragraph's worth. The change that Teatimer wanted to ok to make I am not sure of when one talks about registries is it involve one or more of the three files the User.dat, System.dat and Policy.pol. with the problem most likely in User.dat? If I boot into save mode the same thing happens I get to the desktop with no icons and the error box comes up. Please help how can I get past this problem without reinstalling the OS? Can you boot into DOS mode (true DOS) and run "scanreg /restore" at the DOS prompt to restore a good previous backup? The main point being, you'd need a clean registry cab file that predates this incident. Of course, if it's been a week, it's probably even too late for that. Also keep in mind that if you do this, it will remove another old registry backup, so you'd better save some copies elsewhere beforehand. Yes I can boot into dos using a 98SE startup floppy disk. Is that what you mean. or do you mean to be able to boot DOS from the hard drive which I have not tried. not sure how I can get a shutdown/restart box. Either way (assuming you could get to a shutdown box) - more below... Been turning it off with control, alt, delete and then choosing shutdown in the force exit app. box. And I have restarted a ton of times trying to work out the problem. If you did this over a period of several days (instead of just on one or two days), you've probably lost the 5 daily registry backups already. This happened a month ago so have been using a laptop instead as my primary computer so the date on the files would be old that I would need to restore too. Each time I boot does it save a copy at shutdown? No. Not unless it's a new day too. And if I never boot successfully does it still save one and that replaces the previously saved one? Not sure how it all works. Normally a new one is created each day (assuming you turn the computer off each nite). If you leave it on, the next time it reboots and a new day has passed, it will create a new one. However, it normally only makes 5 backups (to correspond to 5 days worth) and then starts deleting the oldest backup, to make room for a newer one. You can probably find some articles on "scanreg /restore" on the net that cover it more thoroughly than I am here, but from what you've said, it sounds unlikely you'll still have those registry backups predating when this happened. |
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How can I fix Explorer crashing before things even get going?
On Jan 15, 3:38*pm, "Bill in Co"
wrote: DJW wrote: On Jan 14, 8:58 pm, "Bill in Co" wrote: DJW wrote: I run Teatimer part of Spybot that manually asks me if I want to make what I think are registry changes. I was trying to make my computer more secure from some guests that I was going to let use my computer running windows 98SE. I removed my password from my AOL dialup connection and passwords on both fFirefox and MS Internet Explorer at hotmail's login to my mailbox. Teatimer asked if I wanted to make the change(s?) and I was not thinking and said no. Since it was me making the changes I should not have done my usually no answer when it happens out of the blue that it says something or someone is trying to make a change while online. I restarted the computer only to find that it boots all the way to my desktop background photo and then I get an error box. The error box is titled Explorer . this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down If this problem persists, contact the program vendor. If I click close I get a moveable arrow cursor but nothing else happens. If I click on details in the error box it says: Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module Explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. Registers: Yada yada yada (if it will help I will add all the information it says but it is a paragraph's worth. The change that Teatimer wanted to ok to make I am not sure of when one talks about registries is it involve one or more of the three files the User.dat, System.dat and Policy.pol. with the problem most likely in User.dat? If I boot into save mode the same thing happens I get to the desktop with no icons and the error box comes up. Please help how can I get past this problem without reinstalling the OS? Can you boot into DOS mode (true DOS) and run "scanreg /restore" at the DOS prompt to restore a good previous backup? The main point being, you'd need a clean registry cab file that predates this incident. Of course, if it's been a week, it's probably even too late for that. Also keep in mind that if you do this, it will remove another old registry backup, so you'd better save some copies elsewhere beforehand. Yes I can boot into dos using a 98SE startup floppy disk. Is that what you mean. or do you mean to be able to boot DOS from the hard drive which I have not tried. not sure how I can get a shutdown/restart box. Either way (assuming you could get to a shutdown box) - more below... Been turning it off with control, alt, delete and then choosing shutdown in the force exit app. box. And I have restarted a ton of times trying to work out the problem. If you did this over a period of several days (instead of just on one or two days), you've probably lost the 5 daily registry backups already. This happened a month ago so have been using a laptop instead as my primary computer so the date on the files would be old that I would need to restore too. Each time I boot does it save a copy at shutdown? No. * *Not unless it's a new day too. And if I never boot successfully does it still save one and that replaces the previously saved one? Not sure how it all works. Normally a new one is created each day (assuming you turn the computer off each nite). * If you leave it on, the next time it reboots and a new day has passed, it will create a new one. * However, it normally only makes 5 backups (to correspond to 5 days worth) and then starts deleting the oldest backup, to make room for a newer one. *You can probably find some articles on "scanreg /restore" on the net that cover it more thoroughly than I am here, but from what you've said, it sounds unlikely you'll still have those registry backups predating when this happened. I goggled it and it worked! Thank you very much for your help!!!! Wish I ‘d know about it a month or more ago. Was so simple to do. I wonder what other things are available for OS management hidden within MS DOS and windows 98SE. |
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How can I fix Explorer crashing before things even get going?
DJW wrote:
On Jan 15, 3:38 pm, "Bill in Co" wrote: DJW wrote: On Jan 14, 8:58 pm, "Bill in Co" wrote: DJW wrote: I run Teatimer part of Spybot that manually asks me if I want to make what I think are registry changes. I was trying to make my computer more secure from some guests that I was going to let use my computer running windows 98SE. I removed my password from my AOL dialup connection and passwords on both fFirefox and MS Internet Explorer at hotmail's login to my mailbox. Teatimer asked if I wanted to make the change(s?) and I was not thinking and said no. Since it was me making the changes I should not have done my usually no answer when it happens out of the blue that it says something or someone is trying to make a change while online. I restarted the computer only to find that it boots all the way to my desktop background photo and then I get an error box. The error box is titled Explorer . this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down If this problem persists, contact the program vendor. If I click close I get a moveable arrow cursor but nothing else happens. If I click on details in the error box it says: Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module Explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. Registers: Yada yada yada (if it will help I will add all the information it says but it is a paragraph's worth. The change that Teatimer wanted to ok to make I am not sure of when one talks about registries is it involve one or more of the three files the User.dat, System.dat and Policy.pol. with the problem most likely in User.dat? If I boot into save mode the same thing happens I get to the desktop with no icons and the error box comes up. Please help how can I get past this problem without reinstalling the OS? Can you boot into DOS mode (true DOS) and run "scanreg /restore" at the DOS prompt to restore a good previous backup? The main point being, you'd need a clean registry cab file that predates this incident. Of course, if it's been a week, it's probably even too late for that. Also keep in mind that if you do this, it will remove another old registry backup, so you'd better save some copies elsewhere beforehand. Yes I can boot into dos using a 98SE startup floppy disk. Is that what you mean. or do you mean to be able to boot DOS from the hard drive which I have not tried. not sure how I can get a shutdown/restart box. Either way (assuming you could get to a shutdown box) - more below... Been turning it off with control, alt, delete and then choosing shutdown in the force exit app. box. And I have restarted a ton of times trying to work out the problem. If you did this over a period of several days (instead of just on one or two days), you've probably lost the 5 daily registry backups already. This happened a month ago so have been using a laptop instead as my primary computer so the date on the files would be old that I would need to restore too. Each time I boot does it save a copy at shutdown? No. Not unless it's a new day too. And if I never boot successfully does it still save one and that replaces the previously saved one? Not sure how it all works. Normally a new one is created each day (assuming you turn the computer off each nite). If you leave it on, the next time it reboots and a new day has passed, it will create a new one. However, it normally only makes 5 backups (to correspond to 5 days worth) and then starts deleting the oldest backup, to make room for a newer one. You can probably find some articles on "scanreg /restore" on the net that cover it more thoroughly than I am here, but from what you've said, it sounds unlikely you'll still have those registry backups predating when this happened. I goggled it and it worked! Thank you very much for your help!!!! Wish I 'd know about it a month or more ago. Was so simple to do. I wonder what other things are available for OS management hidden within MS DOS and windows 98SE. Glad to hear it worked! Evidently you did have some good old registry backup file to use! I think the "scanreg/ restore" feature is the best feature of Win98 for getting out of a deep hole (and being able to boot into true DOS mode). You just have to keep in mind its limitations, and the fact that it normally only keeps 5 backups, corresponding to each day of the week (assuming you turn off your computer each nite). As for "OS management", in general, I'd just advise you to stay away from using "registry cleaners", and instead rely on using the registry backups if a problem develops, keeping in mind its limited time frame. |
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How can I fix Explorer crashing before things even get going?
"DJW" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 3:38 pm, "Bill in Co" wrote: DJW wrote: On Jan 14, 8:58 pm, "Bill in Co" wrote: DJW wrote: I run Teatimer part of Spybot that manually asks me if I want to make what I think are registry changes. I was trying to make my computer more secure from some guests that I was going to let use my computer running windows 98SE. I removed my password from my AOL dialup connection and passwords on both fFirefox and MS Internet Explorer at hotmail's login to my mailbox. Teatimer asked if I wanted to make the change(s?) and I was not thinking and said no. Since it was me making the changes I should not have done my usually no answer when it happens out of the blue that it says something or someone is trying to make a change while online. I restarted the computer only to find that it boots all the way to my desktop background photo and then I get an error box. The error box is titled Explorer . this program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down If this problem persists, contact the program vendor. If I click close I get a moveable arrow cursor but nothing else happens. If I click on details in the error box it says: Explorer caused an invalid page fault in module Explorer.exe at 0167:00401f31. Registers: Yada yada yada (if it will help I will add all the information it says but it is a paragraph's worth. The change that Teatimer wanted to ok to make I am not sure of when one talks about registries is it involve one or more of the three files the User.dat, System.dat and Policy.pol. with the problem most likely in User.dat? If I boot into save mode the same thing happens I get to the desktop with no icons and the error box comes up. Please help how can I get past this problem without reinstalling the OS? Can you boot into DOS mode (true DOS) and run "scanreg /restore" at the DOS prompt to restore a good previous backup? The main point being, you'd need a clean registry cab file that predates this incident. Of course, if it's been a week, it's probably even too late for that. Also keep in mind that if you do this, it will remove another old registry backup, so you'd better save some copies elsewhere beforehand. Yes I can boot into dos using a 98SE startup floppy disk. Is that what you mean. or do you mean to be able to boot DOS from the hard drive which I have not tried. not sure how I can get a shutdown/restart box. Either way (assuming you could get to a shutdown box) - more below... Been turning it off with control, alt, delete and then choosing shutdown in the force exit app. box. And I have restarted a ton of times trying to work out the problem. If you did this over a period of several days (instead of just on one or two days), you've probably lost the 5 daily registry backups already. This happened a month ago so have been using a laptop instead as my primary computer so the date on the files would be old that I would need to restore too. Each time I boot does it save a copy at shutdown? No. Not unless it's a new day too. And if I never boot successfully does it still save one and that replaces the previously saved one? Not sure how it all works. Normally a new one is created each day (assuming you turn the computer off each nite). If you leave it on, the next time it reboots and a new day has passed, it will create a new one. However, it normally only makes 5 backups (to correspond to 5 days worth) and then starts deleting the oldest backup, to make room for a newer one. You can probably find some articles on "scanreg /restore" on the net that cover it more thoroughly than I am here, but from what you've said, it sounds unlikely you'll still have those registry backups predating when this happened. I goggled it and it worked! Thank you very much for your help!!!! Wish I ‘d know about it a month or more ago. Was so simple to do. I wonder what other things are available for OS management hidden within MS DOS and windows 98SE. You may want to disable your TeaTimer in order to prevent this from happening again. Harry. |
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In message , webster72n
writes: [] I goggled it and it worked! Thank you very much for your help!!!! Wish I ‘d know about it a month or more ago. Was so simple to do. I wonder what other things are available for OS management hidden within MS DOS and windows 98SE. You may want to disable your TeaTimer in order to prevent this from happening again. Harry. Or use ERU/ERD (which came with Windows 95 - not sure it's on a '98 CD), which allows you to save a registry (and other files, about a dozen altogether) to wherever you like, and it won't get overwritten - and also saves (in the same place) a - DOS-runnable - utility that restores them. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur". ("Anything is more impressive if you say it in Latin") |
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