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  #11  
Old March 12th 05, 05:30 PM
Vince
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heirloom wrote:

I'm still reluctant to apply the patch, even though I am no longer running
any Norton products. As with other updates, this one DOES create a restore
point (for those that fail to do so manually), doesn't it?


Didn't for me. When I looked after the first mess-up there were none
available at all. See my other posts about loss of restore points.

Vince
  #12  
Old March 12th 05, 05:42 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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In response to this thread, I have just run Win Updates on this WinME test
bed and been offered two updates:
KB 888113 & KB 891711, the possible problematic updated being discussed
here.
I have successfully installed KB 888113 without any problem.
I will now attempt KB 891711, while simultaneously running Norton AV 2004
Pro with the latest signature updates and all core file updates.

If you do not hear from me very soon, you may suspect that my system is
unusable ...

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"heirloom" wrote in message
...
I'm still reluctant to apply the patch, even though I am no longer running
any Norton products. As with other updates, this one DOES create a

restore
point (for those that fail to do so manually), doesn't it?
Heirloom, old and EZ AV is working for me


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
(OK, I'll say it - blame Norton!! They've managed to f^&* up everything
else in ME, so why should this patch be any different??)



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's

"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
heirloom had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

I am seeing a lot of references to this particular update causing
problems with a common denominator of NAV (or related Symantec
product). When installing this update, does it not create a restore
point? And, yes, due to the nature of NAV, it would be necessary to
reinstall after a System Restore. Has anyone pinned this on the use
of Symantec products??....or is there still a chance it is browser
related?? Heirloom, old and holding off on this

one

No one has had the gaul to blame NAV yet though I've been leaning

towards
it. My biggest problem is taking it out on a single company when there

are
too many variables. I'd absolutely hate to be the person who caused a
large group of people to switch to more effective solutions. Well,

okay,
I
would... But I do try to examine ALL potentials before jumping out and
saying it's NAV. However this does seem to be the one constant among

most
of the posts... I think, my good sir, that Heirloom shall be the

bearer
of
bad news on this one See also the number of threads in the 98

group.
The update is specifically about this:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Sec.../ms05-002.mspx

It's only available via the updates site itself for 9x/ME. Some have
trouble, some do not... Methinks if I were more carefully oriented I

could
go back and cite examples to SUPPORT your NAV claim my good sir.

Indeed
it
seems likely as I browse through my answers which are highlighted and
flagged to appear on top. However, I'm not tellin' all of 'em! They'll
lynch me! I'm only 31 and have a wife and 2 kids! Besides, I'm a

coward
:P
You tell 'em...

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.







  #13  
Old March 12th 05, 05:44 PM
Vince
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No, it does not. OTOH, it is easily removed from the Control Panel,
Add/Remove Programs. Once removed, my system was back to normal.

I tried Add/Remove programs on it and it didn't seem to work - stayed in
the Startup list.
Also if the .EXE and .DLL files go you get an automatic update reminder
again.

Vince
  #14  
Old March 12th 05, 05:52 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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I'm back, and the KB 891711 Update appears to have caused NO problem here.
IE6 SP1 will browse MVP Jim Eshelman's site without any problem.
This is only a few minute test, however.

FWIW, both KB Updates appear to have created auto SR checkpoints here.
--
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Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

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Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
In response to this thread, I have just run Win Updates on this WinME test
bed and been offered two updates:
KB 888113 & KB 891711, the possible problematic updated being discussed
here.
I have successfully installed KB 888113 without any problem.
I will now attempt KB 891711, while simultaneously running Norton AV 2004
Pro with the latest signature updates and all core file updates.

If you do not hear from me very soon, you may suspect that my system is
unusable ...

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"heirloom" wrote in message
...
I'm still reluctant to apply the patch, even though I am no longer

running
any Norton products. As with other updates, this one DOES create a

restore
point (for those that fail to do so manually), doesn't it?
Heirloom, old and EZ AV is working for me


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
(OK, I'll say it - blame Norton!! They've managed to f^&* up

everything
else in ME, so why should this patch be any different??)



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's

"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
heirloom had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

I am seeing a lot of references to this particular update causing
problems with a common denominator of NAV (or related Symantec
product). When installing this update, does it not create a

restore
point? And, yes, due to the nature of NAV, it would be necessary

to
reinstall after a System Restore. Has anyone pinned this on the

use
of Symantec products??....or is there still a chance it is browser
related?? Heirloom, old and holding off on this

one

No one has had the gaul to blame NAV yet though I've been leaning

towards
it. My biggest problem is taking it out on a single company when

there
are
too many variables. I'd absolutely hate to be the person who caused

a
large group of people to switch to more effective solutions. Well,

okay,
I
would... But I do try to examine ALL potentials before jumping out

and
saying it's NAV. However this does seem to be the one constant among

most
of the posts... I think, my good sir, that Heirloom shall be the

bearer
of
bad news on this one See also the number of threads in the 98

group.
The update is specifically about this:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Sec.../ms05-002.mspx

It's only available via the updates site itself for 9x/ME. Some have
trouble, some do not... Methinks if I were more carefully oriented I

could
go back and cite examples to SUPPORT your NAV claim my good sir.

Indeed
it
seems likely as I browse through my answers which are highlighted

and
flagged to appear on top. However, I'm not tellin' all of 'em!

They'll
lynch me! I'm only 31 and have a wife and 2 kids! Besides, I'm a

coward
:P
You tell 'em...

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.









  #15  
Old March 12th 05, 05:54 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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Followup:

Process Explorer now reports that the KB891711.exe process is executing.

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Jack E Martinelli" wrote in message
...
In response to this thread, I have just run Win Updates on this WinME test
bed and been offered two updates:
KB 888113 & KB 891711, the possible problematic updated being discussed
here.
I have successfully installed KB 888113 without any problem.
I will now attempt KB 891711, while simultaneously running Norton AV 2004
Pro with the latest signature updates and all core file updates.

If you do not hear from me very soon, you may suspect that my system is
unusable ...

--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"heirloom" wrote in message
...
I'm still reluctant to apply the patch, even though I am no longer

running
any Norton products. As with other updates, this one DOES create a

restore
point (for those that fail to do so manually), doesn't it?
Heirloom, old and EZ AV is working for me


"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
(OK, I'll say it - blame Norton!! They've managed to f^&* up

everything
else in ME, so why should this patch be any different??)



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to

NG's

"Galen" wrote in message
...
In ,
heirloom had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

I am seeing a lot of references to this particular update causing
problems with a common denominator of NAV (or related Symantec
product). When installing this update, does it not create a

restore
point? And, yes, due to the nature of NAV, it would be necessary

to
reinstall after a System Restore. Has anyone pinned this on the

use
of Symantec products??....or is there still a chance it is browser
related?? Heirloom, old and holding off on this

one

No one has had the gaul to blame NAV yet though I've been leaning

towards
it. My biggest problem is taking it out on a single company when

there
are
too many variables. I'd absolutely hate to be the person who caused

a
large group of people to switch to more effective solutions. Well,

okay,
I
would... But I do try to examine ALL potentials before jumping out

and
saying it's NAV. However this does seem to be the one constant among

most
of the posts... I think, my good sir, that Heirloom shall be the

bearer
of
bad news on this one See also the number of threads in the 98

group.
The update is specifically about this:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Sec.../ms05-002.mspx

It's only available via the updates site itself for 9x/ME. Some have
trouble, some do not... Methinks if I were more carefully oriented I

could
go back and cite examples to SUPPORT your NAV claim my good sir.

Indeed
it
seems likely as I browse through my answers which are highlighted

and
flagged to appear on top. However, I'm not tellin' all of 'em!

They'll
lynch me! I'm only 31 and have a wife and 2 kids! Besides, I'm a

coward
:P
You tell 'em...

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.









  #16  
Old March 12th 05, 06:07 PM
Mike M
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Which is as it should be.
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Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jack E Martinelli wrote:

Followup:

Process Explorer now reports that the KB891711.exe process is
executing.


  #17  
Old March 12th 05, 07:19 PM
heirloom
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Thanks go to Jack, Mike and Norman for the input. Norman and Jack for
ruling out NAV and Mike for the continued support. Odd that an SR point is
set for some and not others. It would be interesting to see if the lack of
an SR point is common to those with the problems...
Heirloom, old and still hesitant

"N. Miller" wrote in message
om...
In article , Galen says...

No one has had the gaul to blame NAV yet though I've been leaning

towards
it.


Some of us with problems aren't running NAV. If anybody can explain how

NAV
can be the cause of the problem when it isn't installed, I'd like to hear
about it.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint



  #18  
Old March 12th 05, 07:31 PM
Mike M
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H,

A system restore checkpoint should normally be automatically created
whenever installing a patch from the Windows Updates site although for
some odd reason there has always been the odd hotfix that doesn't. :-(
--
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In memory of a very dear friend, Windows MVP Alex Nichol

Mike Maltby MS-MVP



heirloom wrote:

Thanks go to Jack, Mike and Norman for the input. Norman and Jack
for ruling out NAV and Mike for the continued support. Odd that an
SR point is set for some and not others. It would be interesting to
see if the lack of an SR point is common to those with the problems...


  #19  
Old March 12th 05, 07:34 PM
TomV
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Restore points were created for both KB888113 and KB891711 when I
applied the updates using Windows Update. I've had no problems since
installing the patches on the 9th.

heirloom wrote:
Thanks go to Jack, Mike and Norman for the input. Norman and Jack for
ruling out NAV and Mike for the continued support. Odd that an SR point is
set for some and not others. It would be interesting to see if the lack of
an SR point is common to those with the problems...
Heirloom, old and still hesitant

  #20  
Old March 12th 05, 09:07 PM
Jack E Martinelli
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Yes, it's being launched by HKLM\...\RunServices.
--
Jack E. Martinelli 2002-05 MS MVP for Shell/User / DTS
Help us help you: http://www.dts-L.org/goodpost.htm

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
Your cooperation is very appreciated.
------
"Mike M" wrote in message
...
Which is as it should be.
--
Mike Maltby MS-MVP



Jack E Martinelli wrote:

Followup:

Process Explorer now reports that the KB891711.exe process is
executing.




 




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