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Old July 8th 05, 05:05 PM
Jan Il
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Default Security Settings/ActiveX Controls - PING Noel or Mike M

Hi mph170 :-)

As you are unable to use the CDROM on your machine to load the scan and
removal tools to check your machine for scumware, or use the HP Recovery CD,
by this reply I am crossposting your post to the
microsoft.public.windowsme.general newsgroup, as I think you may need the
assistance of the WinME experts there as well. I also have WinME, and by my
own experiences I know that there are somethings that you should and should
not do, and/or should be done in specific steps. You don't mention if your
Windows is OEM or if you have the original install CD, and that can also
make a difference.

I am not sure at this point what to recommend, as I don't want to make
anything worse as you may still be able to recover the system. Hopefully,
the folks in the WinME group will be able to assist with this process.

Hang in there, we'll get you back up and running.... g

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Thanks for the info Jan, but nothing worked. I can't enable Hidden Files;
can't open the recycle bin at all therefore can't empty it; since I can't
get
online, I downloaded the cwshredder, buster, adaware, etc files to my
other
computer, copied them to a cd, but the cdrom doesn't work either on the
Win
Me - I still get the same error regarding security settings prohibit
running
activex controls. I have an HP recovery disk and tried to boot up with it,
but again it is not recognized. Any other suggestions?



"Jan Il" wrote:

Hi mph170 :-)

Error: Current security settings prohibit running activex controls on
this
page. My original desktop will not restore; security levels in Internet
Properties will not change. Cannot open my documents, my computer, ie,
etc. I
thank you in advance for your help. Using Win Me


You likely have a hijacker and/or malware on your system. In addition
to
updating and running your AV, download, install and run the programs
below
in Safe Mode with Hidden Files enabled. This will remove the nasty you
have and any others it may have let in the back door. Some malware can
replicate itself repeatedly if not removed properly, so even if you have
run
some of the programs listed here, it is important that you run them again
according to the information below so that Windows is not operating to
hide
any files 'in use' Follow all instructions carefully:

First, Clear the TIF's and empty the recycle bin:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm

Also…empty your Recycle bin.

Then do the following:

WARNING Backup all documents and files before removing any spyware!!

Most importantly, download install and run CWShredder here
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3019.html
or here
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/
and About Buster, which searches for hidden .dlls that recreate the
malware.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4289.html
Then visit these two sites to test for parasites and help basic cleaning:
On-Line Check
http://aumha.org/a/noads.htm
and
Quick-Fix Protocol.
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.php
Basically, throw everything here at your "infection".

Then download, install and immediately update these three programs before
running:
AdAware SE - Update immediately after installing
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10...age&tag=button
AdAware Tutorial -
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/foru...howtutorial=48
SpyBot S &D - Update immediately after installing
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2471.html
SpyBot S&D Tutorial -
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/foru...howtutorial=43
Microsoft Windows Antispyware Program (Beta)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

Next, do an Online scan here (if possible) -
http://www.pandasoftware.com/actives..._principal.htm
Make sure that you choose "fix" or "clean".

Download Pocket Killbox from
http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/files/killbox.exe
and put it on the desktop where you can find it easily

Download, install, and run HiJackThis - it is one of the most important
tools to help clean your system of scumware. Follow the instructions
carefully:

How to download and install HiJackThis: (it does not need to be updated)
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topict309.html

Please DO NOT post your log to this newsgroup. It is important that you
go
to one of the HiJackThis Support Forums below:
CastleCops HiJackThis Forum
http://castlecops.com/f67-Hijackthis...s_Oh_My.htm l
or Bleeping Computer HiJackThis Forum
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
to allow the program experts there to evaluate your log and advise you of
any
necessary steps to clean your system.
(Note: Look for and read the "Important- Read This First" messages in the
sections for HiJackThis logs so that you follow proper procedure. You
will
have to Register before posting on these Forums. Please follow all
posting
instructions carefully to avoid having your log deleted or ignored.)

Also, please post a link to the forum where you post your HJT log back to
this thread so that we can follow your progress there.

CAUTION!!!!! Before you try to remove spyware using any of the programs
below, download a copy of LSPFIX from any of the following sites:
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
(if your OS is Win2k or XP) The process of removing certain malware may
kill
your internet connection. If this should occur, this program, LSPFIX,
will
enable you to regain your connection.

You should also get a copy of WINSOCKXPFIX available at:
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
and
WinsockXP Fix- WinXP
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
with instructions, at
http://www.iup.edu/house/resnet/winfix.shtm
also... From LavaSoft- all versions of Windows-
http://digital-solutions.co.uk/lavasoft/whndnfix.zip
(NOTE: It is reported that in XP SP2, the command netsh winsock reset
will fix this problem without the need for these programs.)
or Winsock Fix Utility
http://www.dfwonline.net/files/WinsockFix.zip

How to Restart in Safe Mode
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01052409420406

How to Show Hidden Files
http://snipurl.com/6rl8

NOTE: If you can not download these programs from the Internet, if your
PC
has CD read capabilities, go to another computer with CD-ROM burning
capabilities. Create a folder on the hard drive of the other computer
called
HOLD, download the programs to that folder, then burn that folder to a
CD.
Copy the HOLD folder to your HD and then install the programs from there
and run them. After you have IE access again, update all programs where
possible to get the latest definitions and run them again in Safe Mode to
be
sure there are no lingering items on the system.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm



  #2  
Old July 8th 05, 08:08 PM
Noel Paton
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Posts: n/a
Default

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to absorb
the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hi mph170 :-)

As you are unable to use the CDROM on your machine to load the scan and
removal tools to check your machine for scumware, or use the HP Recovery
CD, by this reply I am crossposting your post to the
microsoft.public.windowsme.general newsgroup, as I think you may need the
assistance of the WinME experts there as well. I also have WinME, and by
my own experiences I know that there are somethings that you should and
should not do, and/or should be done in specific steps. You don't mention
if your Windows is OEM or if you have the original install CD, and that
can also make a difference.

I am not sure at this point what to recommend, as I don't want to make
anything worse as you may still be able to recover the system. Hopefully,
the folks in the WinME group will be able to assist with this process.

Hang in there, we'll get you back up and running.... g

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Thanks for the info Jan, but nothing worked. I can't enable Hidden Files;
can't open the recycle bin at all therefore can't empty it; since I can't
get
online, I downloaded the cwshredder, buster, adaware, etc files to my
other
computer, copied them to a cd, but the cdrom doesn't work either on the
Win
Me - I still get the same error regarding security settings prohibit
running
activex controls. I have an HP recovery disk and tried to boot up with
it,
but again it is not recognized. Any other suggestions?



"Jan Il" wrote:

Hi mph170 :-)

Error: Current security settings prohibit running activex controls on
this
page. My original desktop will not restore; security levels in
Internet
Properties will not change. Cannot open my documents, my computer, ie,
etc. I
thank you in advance for your help. Using Win Me

You likely have a hijacker and/or malware on your system. In addition
to
updating and running your AV, download, install and run the programs
below
in Safe Mode with Hidden Files enabled. This will remove the nasty you
have and any others it may have let in the back door. Some malware can
replicate itself repeatedly if not removed properly, so even if you have
run
some of the programs listed here, it is important that you run them
again
according to the information below so that Windows is not operating to
hide
any files 'in use' Follow all instructions carefully:

First, Clear the TIF's and empty the recycle bin:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm

Also.empty your Recycle bin.

Then do the following:

WARNING Backup all documents and files before removing any spyware!!

Most importantly, download install and run CWShredder here
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3019.html
or here
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/
and About Buster, which searches for hidden .dlls that recreate the
malware.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4289.html
Then visit these two sites to test for parasites and help basic
cleaning:
On-Line Check
http://aumha.org/a/noads.htm
and
Quick-Fix Protocol.
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.php
Basically, throw everything here at your "infection".

Then download, install and immediately update these three programs
before
running:
AdAware SE - Update immediately after installing
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10...age&tag=button
AdAware Tutorial -
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/foru...howtutorial=48
SpyBot S &D - Update immediately after installing
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2471.html
SpyBot S&D Tutorial -
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/foru...howtutorial=43
Microsoft Windows Antispyware Program (Beta)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

Next, do an Online scan here (if possible) -
http://www.pandasoftware.com/actives..._principal.htm
Make sure that you choose "fix" or "clean".

Download Pocket Killbox from
http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/files/killbox.exe
and put it on the desktop where you can find it easily

Download, install, and run HiJackThis - it is one of the most important
tools to help clean your system of scumware. Follow the instructions
carefully:

How to download and install HiJackThis: (it does not need to be updated)
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topict309.html

Please DO NOT post your log to this newsgroup. It is important that you
go
to one of the HiJackThis Support Forums below:
CastleCops HiJackThis Forum
http://castlecops.com/f67-Hijackthis...s_Oh_My.htm l
or Bleeping Computer HiJackThis Forum
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
to allow the program experts there to evaluate your log and advise you
of
any
necessary steps to clean your system.
(Note: Look for and read the "Important- Read This First" messages in
the
sections for HiJackThis logs so that you follow proper procedure. You
will
have to Register before posting on these Forums. Please follow all
posting
instructions carefully to avoid having your log deleted or ignored.)

Also, please post a link to the forum where you post your HJT log back
to
this thread so that we can follow your progress there.

CAUTION!!!!! Before you try to remove spyware using any of the programs
below, download a copy of LSPFIX from any of the following sites:
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
(if your OS is Win2k or XP) The process of removing certain malware may
kill
your internet connection. If this should occur, this program, LSPFIX,
will
enable you to regain your connection.

You should also get a copy of WINSOCKXPFIX available at:
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
and
WinsockXP Fix- WinXP
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
with instructions, at
http://www.iup.edu/house/resnet/winfix.shtm
also... From LavaSoft- all versions of Windows-
http://digital-solutions.co.uk/lavasoft/whndnfix.zip
(NOTE: It is reported that in XP SP2, the command netsh winsock reset
will fix this problem without the need for these programs.)
or Winsock Fix Utility
http://www.dfwonline.net/files/WinsockFix.zip

How to Restart in Safe Mode
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01052409420406

How to Show Hidden Files
http://snipurl.com/6rl8

NOTE: If you can not download these programs from the Internet, if your
PC
has CD read capabilities, go to another computer with CD-ROM burning
capabilities. Create a folder on the hard drive of the other computer
called
HOLD, download the programs to that folder, then burn that folder to a
CD.
Copy the HOLD folder to your HD and then install the programs from there
and run them. After you have IE access again, update all programs where
possible to get the latest definitions and run them again in Safe Mode
to be
sure there are no lingering items on the system.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm





  #3  
Old July 8th 05, 08:33 PM
Jan Il
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Hey Noel. Thank you. :-)

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to
absorb the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....



Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.



--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hi mph170 :-)

As you are unable to use the CDROM on your machine to load the scan and
removal tools to check your machine for scumware, or use the HP Recovery
CD, by this reply I am crossposting your post to the
microsoft.public.windowsme.general newsgroup, as I think you may need the
assistance of the WinME experts there as well. I also have WinME, and by
my own experiences I know that there are somethings that you should and
should not do, and/or should be done in specific steps. You don't
mention if your Windows is OEM or if you have the original install CD,
and that can also make a difference.

I am not sure at this point what to recommend, as I don't want to make
anything worse as you may still be able to recover the system.
Hopefully, the folks in the WinME group will be able to assist with this
process.

Hang in there, we'll get you back up and running.... g

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

Thanks for the info Jan, but nothing worked. I can't enable Hidden
Files;
can't open the recycle bin at all therefore can't empty it; since I
can't get
online, I downloaded the cwshredder, buster, adaware, etc files to my
other
computer, copied them to a cd, but the cdrom doesn't work either on the
Win
Me - I still get the same error regarding security settings prohibit
running
activex controls. I have an HP recovery disk and tried to boot up with
it,
but again it is not recognized. Any other suggestions?



"Jan Il" wrote:

Hi mph170 :-)

Error: Current security settings prohibit running activex controls on
this
page. My original desktop will not restore; security levels in
Internet
Properties will not change. Cannot open my documents, my computer,
ie,
etc. I
thank you in advance for your help. Using Win Me

You likely have a hijacker and/or malware on your system. In addition
to
updating and running your AV, download, install and run the programs
below
in Safe Mode with Hidden Files enabled. This will remove the nasty
you
have and any others it may have let in the back door. Some malware can
replicate itself repeatedly if not removed properly, so even if you
have run
some of the programs listed here, it is important that you run them
again
according to the information below so that Windows is not operating to
hide
any files 'in use' Follow all instructions carefully:

First, Clear the TIF's and empty the recycle bin:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm

Also.empty your Recycle bin.

Then do the following:

WARNING Backup all documents and files before removing any
spyware!!

Most importantly, download install and run CWShredder here
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download3019.html
or here
http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/
and About Buster, which searches for hidden .dlls that recreate the
malware.
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4289.html
Then visit these two sites to test for parasites and help basic
cleaning:
On-Line Check
http://aumha.org/a/noads.htm
and
Quick-Fix Protocol.
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.php
Basically, throw everything here at your "infection".

Then download, install and immediately update these three programs
before
running:
AdAware SE - Update immediately after installing
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10...age&tag=button
AdAware Tutorial -
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/foru...howtutorial=48
SpyBot S &D - Update immediately after installing
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download2471.html
SpyBot S&D Tutorial -
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/foru...howtutorial=43
Microsoft Windows Antispyware Program (Beta)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

Next, do an Online scan here (if possible) -
http://www.pandasoftware.com/actives..._principal.htm
Make sure that you choose "fix" or "clean".

Download Pocket Killbox from
http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/files/killbox.exe
and put it on the desktop where you can find it easily

Download, install, and run HiJackThis - it is one of the most important
tools to help clean your system of scumware. Follow the instructions
carefully:

How to download and install HiJackThis: (it does not need to be
updated)
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topict309.html

Please DO NOT post your log to this newsgroup. It is important that
you go
to one of the HiJackThis Support Forums below:
CastleCops HiJackThis Forum
http://castlecops.com/f67-Hijackthis...s_Oh_My.htm l
or Bleeping Computer HiJackThis Forum
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/forum22.html
to allow the program experts there to evaluate your log and advise you
of
any
necessary steps to clean your system.
(Note: Look for and read the "Important- Read This First" messages in
the
sections for HiJackThis logs so that you follow proper procedure. You
will
have to Register before posting on these Forums. Please follow all
posting
instructions carefully to avoid having your log deleted or ignored.)

Also, please post a link to the forum where you post your HJT log back
to
this thread so that we can follow your progress there.

CAUTION!!!!! Before you try to remove spyware using any of the
programs
below, download a copy of LSPFIX from any of the following sites:
http://www.cexx.org/lspfix.htm
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
(if your OS is Win2k or XP) The process of removing certain malware may
kill
your internet connection. If this should occur, this program, LSPFIX,
will
enable you to regain your connection.

You should also get a copy of WINSOCKXPFIX available at:
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
and
WinsockXP Fix- WinXP
http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html
with instructions, at
http://www.iup.edu/house/resnet/winfix.shtm
also... From LavaSoft- all versions of Windows-
http://digital-solutions.co.uk/lavasoft/whndnfix.zip
(NOTE: It is reported that in XP SP2, the command netsh winsock reset
will fix this problem without the need for these programs.)
or Winsock Fix Utility
http://www.dfwonline.net/files/WinsockFix.zip

How to Restart in Safe Mode
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01052409420406

How to Show Hidden Files
http://snipurl.com/6rl8

NOTE: If you can not download these programs from the Internet, if your
PC
has CD read capabilities, go to another computer with CD-ROM burning
capabilities. Create a folder on the hard drive of the other computer
called
HOLD, download the programs to that folder, then burn that folder to a
CD.
Copy the HOLD folder to your HD and then install the programs from
there
and run them. After you have IE access again, update all programs where
possible to get the latest definitions and run them again in Safe Mode
to be
sure there are no lingering items on the system.

Hope this helps.

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.

Replies are posted only to the newsgroup for the benefit or other
readers.
How to make a good newsgroup post:
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm






  #4  
Old July 8th 05, 08:40 PM
Noel Paton
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

No probs, Jan - but it's been a hard day in the workhouse.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hey Noel. Thank you. :-)

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to
absorb the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....



Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.




  #5  
Old July 9th 05, 02:17 AM
Mart
external usenet poster
 
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Default

Hope you don't mind me jumping in here Noel (or Jan), but like you, I am
having a little trouble trying to absorb the saga. I'm not even too sure
whether the saga presented here is complete - or quite where to start.

However, amongst other things, the OP (mph170) appears to be having problems
with reading from - or even the recognising - the CD-ROM, and maybe that is
a good enough point to start to address the first of mph170's problems. The
first thing mph170 needs to do is to determine whether this is a WinMe issue
or not. The following ASS-U-MEs that there is the only CD-ROM on the PC.

First question - has anyone been 'under the bonnet' and disturbed any of the
wiring within the computer?

You must ensure that the PC does actually 'see' the CD-ROM. Its cables *may*
have become dislodged. Either look in the BIOS to see if it is recognised
there, or confirm that you can 'see' it in Real Mode DOS

To 'see' it in Real Mode DOS, Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk
in the A: drive.
Select option 2. "Start computer with CD-ROM support."

Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
should report a drive letter for the CD-ROM - but note that it may not
necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows.

For example, you may see the CD-ROM, becoming the E:, so the screen should
show:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\
prompt.

Now put a (data) CD into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (no
quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.

Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
press Return.

You should see a listing of the CD contents.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any

- AND please restate any other issues (the original problem!) so that we
may try to determine whether an SR might yet be appropriate.

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
No probs, Jan - but it's been a hard day in the workhouse.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hey Noel. Thank you. :-)

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to
absorb the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....



Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.






  #6  
Old July 9th 05, 04:59 AM
mph170
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Hello Jan, Noel & Mart:

I only have one cd-rom on the HP Win Me and no one was 'under the bonnet.'
When I start ME, it recognizes the cd-rom and usually the first file on the
disk, but then I get the error message 'security settings..activex
controls..page will not open correctly.' Now when I start in the safemode, I
do not have the cd-rom but I can see all of my original files on c drive. I
tried the recovery disk again last night with the disk in the drive at
boot-time, but it would not start on its own nor could I open it manually
because of the error message. While in safemode I was able to look at
msconfig files, etc. I compared the files to my Win 98 2ed. Everything seemed
to be identical. I did have six files recorded as 'not present' in the system
summary/internet explorer. My 'start' button still will not work in either
selective or safemode.

To back up a little, I upgraded to Norton Security 2005 a couple of weeks
ago. I don't know if I put that in my first post or not. It installed ok and
it was current at the time this Me problem started. I checked the Norton help
files online with my other computer, identified the same error message on
their board, and according to their advise, unintalled Norton Security 2005
via safemode. I don't know if it uninstalled or not because my recycle bin
would not open in either safemode or selective mode. When I called Norton, of
course they said it was a windows problem. Later I looked through all the
files and could not find Norton, so guess it was deleted.

Today I networked Me to Win 98 and copied my clients accounting
files/programs. I didn't want to do this, but I didn't want to risk losing
this data. I know I should have a virus program running, but I don't know if
I want to reinstall Norton.

Thanks for your help.
mph170 and slowing down fast...

"Mart" wrote:

Hope you don't mind me jumping in here Noel (or Jan), but like you, I am
having a little trouble trying to absorb the saga. I'm not even too sure
whether the saga presented here is complete - or quite where to start.

However, amongst other things, the OP (mph170) appears to be having problems
with reading from - or even the recognising - the CD-ROM, and maybe that is
a good enough point to start to address the first of mph170's problems. The
first thing mph170 needs to do is to determine whether this is a WinMe issue
or not. The following ASS-U-MEs that there is the only CD-ROM on the PC.

First question - has anyone been 'under the bonnet' and disturbed any of the
wiring within the computer?

You must ensure that the PC does actually 'see' the CD-ROM. Its cables *may*
have become dislodged. Either look in the BIOS to see if it is recognised
there, or confirm that you can 'see' it in Real Mode DOS

To 'see' it in Real Mode DOS, Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk
in the A: drive.
Select option 2. "Start computer with CD-ROM support."

Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
should report a drive letter for the CD-ROM - but note that it may not
necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows.

For example, you may see the CD-ROM, becoming the E:, so the screen should
show:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an A:\
prompt.

Now put a (data) CD into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (no
quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.

Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
press Return.

You should see a listing of the CD contents.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any

- AND please restate any other issues (the original problem!) so that we
may try to determine whether an SR might yet be appropriate.

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
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No probs, Jan - but it's been a hard day in the workhouse.....

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"Jan Il" wrote in message
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Hey Noel. Thank you. :-)

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to
absorb the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....


Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.







  #7  
Old July 9th 05, 05:19 AM
Jan Il
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Hi Mart! :-) Thanks for stopping in. I think we can use all the help we can
get. You guys in WinME know my history with ME, so that's why I thought it
best not to do anything more until you experts in ME had a chance to take a
look. I was worried that doing the wrong thing might ruin any chance he may
still have with an SR. :-)

Here's the OP's original post:

/Error: Current security settings prohibit running activex controls on this
page. My original desktop will not restore; security levels in Internet
Properties will not change. Cannot open my documents, my computer, ie, etc.
I
thank you in advance for your help. Using Win Me/

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.



Hope you don't mind me jumping in here Noel (or Jan), but like you, I am
having a little trouble trying to absorb the saga. I'm not even too sure
whether the saga presented here is complete - or quite where to start.

However, amongst other things, the OP (mph170) appears to be having
problems with reading from - or even the recognising - the CD-ROM, and
maybe that is a good enough point to start to address the first of
mph170's problems. The first thing mph170 needs to do is to determine
whether this is a WinMe issue or not. The following ASS-U-MEs that there
is the only CD-ROM on the PC.

First question - has anyone been 'under the bonnet' and disturbed any of
the wiring within the computer?

You must ensure that the PC does actually 'see' the CD-ROM. Its cables
*may* have become dislodged. Either look in the BIOS to see if it is
recognised there, or confirm that you can 'see' it in Real Mode DOS

To 'see' it in Real Mode DOS, Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy) Disk
in the A: drive.
Select option 2. "Start computer with CD-ROM support."

Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
should report a drive letter for the CD-ROM - but note that it may not
necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows.

For example, you may see the CD-ROM, becoming the E:, so the screen should
show:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
A:\ prompt.

Now put a (data) CD into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (no
quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.

Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space) Then
press Return.

You should see a listing of the CD contents.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any

- AND please restate any other issues (the original problem!) so that we
may try to determine whether an SR might yet be appropriate.

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
No probs, Jan - but it's been a hard day in the workhouse.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hey Noel. Thank you. :-)

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to
absorb the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....


Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.







  #8  
Old July 9th 05, 09:43 AM
Mart
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mph, although - from your reply - I now *suspect* that your CD-ROM is
*probably* going to be ok, I would still like you to check it according to
my previous response, if only for elimination purposes.

The reason that you can't see the CD-ROM in safe mode (unlike Win98 - IIRC)
is quite simply that the drivers are not loaded. Hence my previous
suggestion which loads DOS (Real Mode) drivers from the floppy. In WinMe,
the CD-ROM drivers are only loaded in Normal Mode.

For the moment, I'll leave it there, as I'm tied up on 'domestic chores'
(Saturday morning here g), however, I suspect Noel's reaction might be
'self-inflicted' when the he reads "WinMe and Norton" in the same sentence
g He will probably advise dumping Norton and concentrate on reclaiming a
decent machine!

If you haven't made further progress, I'll come back in a few hours -
probably your bed time, on that side of the pond?

Mart


"mph170" wrote in message
...
Hello Jan, Noel & Mart:

I only have one cd-rom on the HP Win Me and no one was 'under the bonnet.'
When I start ME, it recognizes the cd-rom and usually the first file on
the
disk, but then I get the error message 'security settings..activex
controls..page will not open correctly.' Now when I start in the safemode,
I
do not have the cd-rom but I can see all of my original files on c drive.
I
tried the recovery disk again last night with the disk in the drive at
boot-time, but it would not start on its own nor could I open it manually
because of the error message. While in safemode I was able to look at
msconfig files, etc. I compared the files to my Win 98 2ed. Everything
seemed
to be identical. I did have six files recorded as 'not present' in the
system
summary/internet explorer. My 'start' button still will not work in either
selective or safemode.

To back up a little, I upgraded to Norton Security 2005 a couple of weeks
ago. I don't know if I put that in my first post or not. It installed ok
and
it was current at the time this Me problem started. I checked the Norton
help
files online with my other computer, identified the same error message on
their board, and according to their advise, unintalled Norton Security
2005
via safemode. I don't know if it uninstalled or not because my recycle bin
would not open in either safemode or selective mode. When I called Norton,
of
course they said it was a windows problem. Later I looked through all the
files and could not find Norton, so guess it was deleted.

Today I networked Me to Win 98 and copied my clients accounting
files/programs. I didn't want to do this, but I didn't want to risk losing
this data. I know I should have a virus program running, but I don't know
if
I want to reinstall Norton.

Thanks for your help.
mph170 and slowing down fast...

"Mart" wrote:

Hope you don't mind me jumping in here Noel (or Jan), but like you, I am
having a little trouble trying to absorb the saga. I'm not even too sure
whether the saga presented here is complete - or quite where to start.

However, amongst other things, the OP (mph170) appears to be having
problems
with reading from - or even the recognising - the CD-ROM, and maybe that
is
a good enough point to start to address the first of mph170's problems.
The
first thing mph170 needs to do is to determine whether this is a WinMe
issue
or not. The following ASS-U-MEs that there is the only CD-ROM on the PC.

First question - has anyone been 'under the bonnet' and disturbed any of
the
wiring within the computer?

You must ensure that the PC does actually 'see' the CD-ROM. Its cables
*may*
have become dislodged. Either look in the BIOS to see if it is recognised
there, or confirm that you can 'see' it in Real Mode DOS

To 'see' it in Real Mode DOS, Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy)
Disk
in the A: drive.
Select option 2. "Start computer with CD-ROM support."

Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
should report a drive letter for the CD-ROM - but note that it may not
necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows.

For example, you may see the CD-ROM, becoming the E:, so the screen
should
show:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
A:\
prompt.

Now put a (data) CD into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (no
quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.

Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space)
Then
press Return.

You should see a listing of the CD contents.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any

- AND please restate any other issues (the original problem!) so that we
may try to determine whether an SR might yet be appropriate.

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
No probs, Jan - but it's been a hard day in the workhouse.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hey Noel. Thank you. :-)

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to
absorb the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....


Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.









  #9  
Old July 9th 05, 09:45 AM
Mart
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NP's Jan, - will probably visit SR when we've tamed Norton g

I'll speak later.

Mart


"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hi Mart! :-) Thanks for stopping in. I think we can use all the help we
can get. You guys in WinME know my history with ME, so that's why I
thought it best not to do anything more until you experts in ME had a
chance to take a look. I was worried that doing the wrong thing might ruin
any chance he may still have with an SR. :-)

Here's the OP's original post:

/Error: Current security settings prohibit running activex controls on
this
page. My original desktop will not restore; security levels in Internet
Properties will not change. Cannot open my documents, my computer, ie,
etc. I
thank you in advance for your help. Using Win Me/

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.



Hope you don't mind me jumping in here Noel (or Jan), but like you, I am
having a little trouble trying to absorb the saga. I'm not even too sure
whether the saga presented here is complete - or quite where to start.

However, amongst other things, the OP (mph170) appears to be having
problems with reading from - or even the recognising - the CD-ROM, and
maybe that is a good enough point to start to address the first of
mph170's problems. The first thing mph170 needs to do is to determine
whether this is a WinMe issue or not. The following ASS-U-MEs that there
is the only CD-ROM on the PC.

First question - has anyone been 'under the bonnet' and disturbed any of
the wiring within the computer?

You must ensure that the PC does actually 'see' the CD-ROM. Its cables
*may* have become dislodged. Either look in the BIOS to see if it is
recognised there, or confirm that you can 'see' it in Real Mode DOS

To 'see' it in Real Mode DOS, Boot, using your WinMe Startup (floppy)
Disk in the A: drive.
Select option 2. "Start computer with CD-ROM support."

Let the screen information scroll until you eventually see a line which
should report a drive letter for the CD-ROM - but note that it may not
necessarily the same letter as you would expect to see in Windows.

For example, you may see the CD-ROM, becoming the E:, so the screen
should show:
Drive E:= Driver MSCD001 UNIT 0
Your CD-ROM Is Drive E


When the boot disk finally settles down, you will be presented with an
A:\ prompt.

Now put a (data) CD into the CD-ROM and at the A:\ prompt, type "E:" (no
quotes and note the colon after the letter E) Then Press Return.

Now, at the E:\ prompt, type "DIR /P" (no quotes and note the space)
Then press Return.

You should see a listing of the CD contents.

Come back with your results. Give EXACT errors reports - if any

- AND please restate any other issues (the original problem!) so that we
may try to determine whether an SR might yet be appropriate.

Mart



"Noel Paton" wrote in message
...
No probs, Jan - but it's been a hard day in the workhouse.....

--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm

http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to
NG's

"Jan Il" wrote in message
...
Hey Noel. Thank you. :-)

Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious

Oy!!
I'll come back to this one in the morning, when hopefully I'm able to
absorb the saga! (IOW, don't run away thinking we've forgtton you!)

Mike may have some ideas in the meanwhile....


Jan
MS MVP - IE/OE
Smiles are meant to be shared,
that's why they're so contagious.









  #10  
Old July 9th 05, 10:22 AM
Joan Archer
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lol That's an understatement if ever I saw one g
Joan

Mart wrote:
however, I suspect Noel's
reaction might be 'self-inflicted' when the he reads "WinMe and
Norton" in the same sentence g



 




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