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Enable expanded memory?
Need to use Expanded memory for an old DOS program. When I
right-click on the program and go to Properties | Memory tab, the Expanded (EMS) memory option is disabled. It says "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-DOS sessions". There is a Details button; clicking it says "Third-party memory management software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded memory". That message is bogus, because I get the same thing with any program I try. The computer has a fresh install of the OS. I have another system where I also installed the same W98SE from scratch, and Expanded memory is available with no problem on that system. So what is wrong on this system? And how can I enable Expanded memory? BTW, the computer is a Dell L733r, 750MH (I think), and 191 MB RAM (according to System Properties) |
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"Ken Krupa" wrote in message ... Need to use Expanded memory for an old DOS program. When I right-click on the program and go to Properties | Memory tab, the Expanded (EMS) memory option is disabled. It says "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-DOS sessions". There is a Details button; clicking it says "Third-party memory management software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded memory". That message is bogus, because I get the same thing with any program I try. The computer has a fresh install of the OS. I have another system where I also installed the same W98SE from scratch, and Expanded memory is available with no problem on that system. So what is wrong on this system? And how can I enable Expanded memory? BTW, the computer is a Dell L733r, 750MH (I think), and 191 MB RAM (according to System Properties) have a look here http://www.easydos.com/emm386.html |
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Thanks, but I tried that and no luck. I tried adding
device = c:\windows\emm386.exe to config.sys, but it says unable to install ... (goes by too quick to get it all). If I take it back out of config.sys, and I open a DOS window, and do EMM386, it says Expanded memory services unavailable. EMM386 Active. (No, I did not run EMM386 manually) If I try EMM386 ON, it says Unable to turn on EMM386 - protective mode software already running. If I try to turn it off, it says: Unable to deactivate EMM386 as UMBs are being provided and/or EMS is being used. Bear in mind that this is a freshly formatted system with W98 just installed. No other programs have been installed yet. -----Original Message----- "Ken Krupa" wrote in message ... Need to use Expanded memory for an old DOS program. When I right-click on the program and go to Properties | Memory tab, the Expanded (EMS) memory option is disabled. It says "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-DOS sessions". There is a Details button; clicking it says "Third-party memory management software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded memory". That message is bogus, because I get the same thing with any program I try. The computer has a fresh install of the OS. I have another system where I also installed the same W98SE from scratch, and Expanded memory is available with no problem on that system. So what is wrong on this system? And how can I enable Expanded memory? BTW, the computer is a Dell L733r, 750MH (I think), and 191 MB RAM (according to System Properties) have a look here http://www.easydos.com/emm386.html . |
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"Ken Krupa" wrote in message ... Thanks, but I tried that and no luck. I tried adding device = c:\windows\emm386.exe to config.sys, but it says unable to install ... (goes by too quick to get it all). If I take it back out of config.sys, and I open a DOS window, and do EMM386, it says Expanded memory services unavailable. EMM386 Active. (No, I did not run EMM386 manually) If I try EMM386 ON, it says Unable to turn on EMM386 - protective mode software already running. If I try to turn it off, it says: Unable to deactivate EMM386 as UMBs are being provided and/or EMS is being used. Bear in mind that this is a freshly formatted system with W98 just installed. No other programs have been installed yet. -----Original Message----- "Ken Krupa" wrote in message ... Need to use Expanded memory for an old DOS program. When I right-click on the program and go to Properties | Memory tab, the Expanded (EMS) memory option is disabled. It says "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-DOS sessions". There is a Details button; clicking it says "Third-party memory management software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded memory". That message is bogus, because I get the same thing with any program I try. The computer has a fresh install of the OS. I have another system where I also installed the same W98SE from scratch, and Expanded memory is available with no problem on that system. So what is wrong on this system? And how can I enable Expanded memory? BTW, the computer is a Dell L733r, 750MH (I think), and 191 MB RAM (according to System Properties) have a look here http://www.easydos.com/emm386.html . oops : its been awhile.... himem.sys must load before emm386 try adding these lines just above the emm386 line device=C:\WINDOWS\himem.sys /testmemff dos=high,umb |
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Nope. At boot up, it says:
EMM386 not installed - unable to set page frame base address. I remember doing this config.sys stuff years ago, using Window 3.1, but it has not been necessary for other systems using W98 - Expanded memory is just available. -----Original Message----- "Ken Krupa" wrote in message ... Thanks, but I tried that and no luck. I tried adding device = c:\windows\emm386.exe to config.sys, but it says unable to install ... (goes by too quick to get it all). If I take it back out of config.sys, and I open a DOS window, and do EMM386, it says Expanded memory services unavailable. EMM386 Active. (No, I did not run EMM386 manually) If I try EMM386 ON, it says Unable to turn on EMM386 - protective mode software already running. If I try to turn it off, it says: Unable to deactivate EMM386 as UMBs are being provided and/or EMS is being used. Bear in mind that this is a freshly formatted system with W98 just installed. No other programs have been installed yet. -----Original Message----- "Ken Krupa" wrote in message .. . Need to use Expanded memory for an old DOS program. When I right-click on the program and go to Properties | Memory tab, the Expanded (EMS) memory option is disabled. It says "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-DOS sessions". There is a Details button; clicking it says "Third-party memory management software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded memory". That message is bogus, because I get the same thing with any program I try. The computer has a fresh install of the OS. I have another system where I also installed the same W98SE from scratch, and Expanded memory is available with no problem on that system. So what is wrong on this system? And how can I enable Expanded memory? BTW, the computer is a Dell L733r, 750MH (I think), and 191 MB RAM (according to System Properties) have a look here http://www.easydos.com/emm386.html . oops : its been awhile.... himem.sys must load before emm386 try adding these lines just above the emm386 line device=C:\WINDOWS\himem.sys /testmemff dos=high,umb . |
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The answer you seek may be in "C:\Windows\MS-DOS Mode for Games with EMS
and XMS Support". Some of the following is irrelevant... First, read CONFIG.TXT, as Phillipson once suggested. I hope in there, somewhere, it says these likely should be the first three lines of a fit & proper Config.sys, optimized for conventional memory. (However, if your game needs Expanded memory, then "NOEMS" must be changed to "RAM". DEVICE=C:\Windows\HIMEM.sys /V DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.exe NOEMS V DOS=HIGH,UMB Only if there is no conflict with your video or network card, for an added boost in conventional memory, change the EMM386 line to the following. "You can see if this memory is available by using the Device Manager", says my book ("Win 98 Secrets" Livingston/Straub). DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.exe i=b000 b7fff NOEMS or to DEVICE=C:\Windows\EMM386.exe i=b000 b7fff RAM Next, forget all that, & try it in a Windows DOS (in a box) session, as Buffalo once said. If it works there, you have the best of all worlds. In this case, whether or not the game gets Expanded memory, depends upon Config.sys, the system file. After that, if necessary, try to figure "MS-DOS Mode for Games with EMS and XMS Support" & "MS-DOS Mode for Games", both in C:\Windows. Here is how it works. (1) R-Clk it in Explorer, & select "Copy". (2) R-Clk an empty area of the Desktop, & select "Paste". (3) Rename it. R-Clk it on the Desktop, & select "Properties". (4) Click the Programs tab; then, the Advanced button. (5) Scroll to the bottom of the Autoexec.bat file, & enter the Path to your DOS program. (6) OK your way out. (7) Now, when you click that .pif, you will warm boot to DOS & the game will begin. (8) IMPORTANT: When your game finishes, & you are returned to a DOS prompt, the way to exit is to type "EXIT" at that prompt. This will boot back to Windows properly. Should you just turn the machine off, the Config.sys & Autoexec.bat inside this .pif will not get a chance to switch back with your system files. I believe then you will boot back into this game, when next you turn that machine on. Try one after the other. If they fail, you must reread CONFIG.txt for further clues to optimize. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Ken Krupa" wrote in message ... | Need to use Expanded memory for an old DOS program. When I | right-click on the program and go to Properties | Memory | tab, the Expanded (EMS) memory option is disabled. It | says "The computer is not configured for expanded memory | in MS-DOS sessions". There is a Details button; clicking | it says "Third-party memory management software has not | been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product | documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded | memory". | | That message is bogus, because I get the same thing with | any program I try. The computer has a fresh install of the | OS. I have another system where I also installed the same | W98SE from scratch, and Expanded memory is available with | no problem on that system. So what is wrong on this | system? And how can I enable Expanded memory? | | BTW, the computer is a Dell L733r, 750MH (I think), and | 191 MB RAM (according to System Properties) |
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"Ken Krupa" wrote in message ... Need to use Expanded memory for an old DOS program. When I right-click on the program and go to Properties | Memory tab, the Expanded (EMS) memory option is disabled. It says "The computer is not configured for expanded memory in MS-DOS sessions". There is a Details button; clicking it says "Third-party memory management software has not been configured for expanded memory. Consult the product documentation for instructions on how to enable expanded memory". That message is bogus, because I get the same thing with any program I try. The computer has a fresh install of the OS. I have another system where I also installed the same W98SE from scratch, and Expanded memory is available with no problem on that system. So what is wrong on this system? And how can I enable Expanded memory? BTW, the computer is a Dell L733r, 750MH (I think), and 191 MB RAM (according to System Properties) This article applies to Dell Inspiron 7000 series: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=217222#appliesto |
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"Buffalo" This article applies to Dell Inspiron 7000 series: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=217222#appliesto Should have been : http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=217222 |
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