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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
Did they remember us here with 98? A big fat NOoooo.
So heres to you Mozilla: BOO, HISSSSS! |
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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
Whats wrong with sticking to the old version?
"lb" wrote in message ... Did they remember us here with 98? A big fat NOoooo. So heres to you Mozilla: BOO, HISSSSS! |
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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
The point is that they upgraded this version which they will not
support anyway later this year and it still has issues, especially with flash. 2.X versions are supposed to work with 98 and they did not see fit to let us use this upgrade. How would you like it if the manufacturer of you make of car came out with an improved fuel saving device and they gave it to all the people that had 2007 and 2008 models and yours was a 2006? FromTheRafters wrote: Whats wrong with sticking to the old version? "lb" wrote in message ... Did they remember us here with 98? A big fat NOoooo. So heres to you Mozilla: BOO, HISSSSS! |
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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
Okay, I understand.
I just thought it odd that someone would be more willing to run upgraded application software than to run an upgraded OS. It is too bad that technology is moving so fast that perfectly serviceable OSes stop having application software written to specifically include their software platform. You shouldn't really blame the application software vendor for 'moving on', but an upgrade for a version already known to support that specific platform should still support that platform IMO. Next full version - maybe not. "lb" wrote in message ... The point is that they upgraded this version which they will not support anyway later this year and it still has issues, especially with flash. 2.X versions are supposed to work with 98 and they did not see fit to let us use this upgrade. How would you like it if the manufacturer of you make of car came out with an improved fuel saving device and they gave it to all the people that had 2007 and 2008 models and yours was a 2006? FromTheRafters wrote: Whats wrong with sticking to the old version? "lb" wrote in message ... Did they remember us here with 98? A big fat NOoooo. So heres to you Mozilla: BOO, HISSSSS! |
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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
How would you like it if the manufacturer of you make of car came out with an improved fuel saving device and they gave it to all the people that had 2007 and 2008 models and yours was a 2006? welcome my son..... welcome, to the masheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen, its alright, we know where you beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen. i concur with all you say, as would all users of 98, and specially 98se. tis not greedy twits that pull the strings, but rather the enemy of man,,,,, sigh, seek and you will find. another sigh....... and i do mean that siiiiiiiiigh sincerly. i find it so sad that 'clever ppl' or 'smart ppl' ; say, like, um, ppl in groups like this, just cant see what is going on and who is at the root of it all.. !! the first two pages explains it all,, and it dont take rocket science, computer science, vetinary science or any other for it to be seen,,, even by ordinary ppl,, the ones that have more power than the ego ppl..... due to their eyes (inner and outer) having the ability to 'see'. in regard to your hissy,,, i totally agree with you,, but trust me, there isnt a damn thing you can do about a situation that is already known before it is shown.... capiche? hth |
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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
lb wrote:
How would you like it if the manufacturer of you make of car came out with an improved fuel saving device and they gave it to all the people that had 2007 and 2008 models and yours was a 2006? First of all, Windows 98 is not a year 2006 model, it's a year 1998 model. Secondly, in terms of computers, the rapid pace of changes of both hardware and software in this field makes anything that is 10 years old almost completely obsolete. A 2 year old car, as you give in your example, is not completely obsolete, in car lifespans and technology even a ten year old car is not as outdated as a ten year old computer. A more appropriate analogy for your fuel saving device would be someone crying because a new fuel saving devices for model year 2007/2008 cars doesn't work in their 1942 Packard! John |
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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
"John John (MVP)" wrote in message ... | lb wrote: | | How would you like it if the manufacturer of you make of car came out | with an improved fuel saving device and they gave it to all the people | that had 2007 and 2008 models and yours was a 2006? | | First of all, Windows 98 is not a year 2006 model, it's a year 1998 model. | | Secondly, in terms of computers, the rapid pace of changes of both | hardware and software in this field makes anything that is 10 years old | almost completely obsolete. A 2 year old car, as you give in your | example, is not completely obsolete, in car lifespans and technology | even a ten year old car is not as outdated as a ten year old computer. | A more appropriate analogy for your fuel saving device would be someone | crying because a new fuel saving devices for model year 2007/2008 cars | doesn't work in their 1942 Packard! | | John | Hmm, not exactly what is occurring... this isn't an *embedded* application being discussed here, its a browser for Internet usage which uses the system/OS available aspects for SOME of its functions, however, most functions are supplied by the program, in its own code and libraries. So contrary to what might be normally argued for this activity, and due to cross platform application [e.g., Linux and other] the difficulties in continuing 9X support would seem to be essentially non-existent. The *hooks* used for access in/to the various systems are known, and in 9X are unchanging. So the analogy being used to a car is not relevant... we aren't discussing an integral PART being supplied, but a third party add-on like a fur lined mirror or a set of fog lamps mounted under/on the bumper.. this shows more, a deliberate refusal to supply support, or more likely just plain laziness by the programmers, or as has been suggested, leverage supplied by some outside force.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org a Peoples' counsel _ _ ~~ |
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stone wrote:
How would you like it if the manufacturer of you make of car came out with an improved fuel saving device and they gave it to all the people that had 2007 and 2008 models and yours was a 2006? When the federal government outlawed the sale of lead as a gasoline additive to increase octane, some older engines (in autos and lawn equipment) were supposedly at risk of wear problems because they were designed to use the lead content to lubricate the exhaust (and possibly the intake) valves. Unfortunately the chemical that replaced lead as an octane booster (I think MBTE?) was also a toxic engine exhaust pollutant. Eventually a government mandate substituted ethanol as an octane booster. |
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Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.17 is out
MEB, why is everyone upset because Mozilla will at least support Firefox
until the middle of December of this year and if enough people complain to them then maybe Mozilla will see it in its heart to support Windows 98 Second Edition with a 2.5 version at least until October 31, 2009 when Sun Java 5 support ends. The end is indeed approaching for Windows 98 Second Edition but only in certain ways and in many ways it will always be better than 2000, XP and Vista and I am sure Windows 7. The future is coming but will the future belong to Microsoft in computing or someone else and I think the answer has become a big if for everyone. I would not be surprised if the amount of dumb terminals continues to increase and only the privileged few have true and full operating systems in the future at least for work purposes that will be difficult to hack and basically useless if hacked because all these dumb terminals will be able to run is a few programs within the cooperation and the real power will remain in the hands of the select few who have the means to the end. Finally, has anyone else noticed that so many more features are hidden and not included with Windows XP Professional such as so many disabling features to help figure out what was wrong with the operating system and allowing users to narrow it down to a hardware and/or a software problem. "MEB" wrote: "John John (MVP)" wrote in message ... | lb wrote: | | How would you like it if the manufacturer of you make of car came out | with an improved fuel saving device and they gave it to all the people | that had 2007 and 2008 models and yours was a 2006? | | First of all, Windows 98 is not a year 2006 model, it's a year 1998 model. | | Secondly, in terms of computers, the rapid pace of changes of both | hardware and software in this field makes anything that is 10 years old | almost completely obsolete. A 2 year old car, as you give in your | example, is not completely obsolete, in car lifespans and technology | even a ten year old car is not as outdated as a ten year old computer. | A more appropriate analogy for your fuel saving device would be someone | crying because a new fuel saving devices for model year 2007/2008 cars | doesn't work in their 1942 Packard! | | John | Hmm, not exactly what is occurring... this isn't an *embedded* application being discussed here, its a browser for Internet usage which uses the system/OS available aspects for SOME of its functions, however, most functions are supplied by the program, in its own code and libraries. So contrary to what might be normally argued for this activity, and due to cross platform application [e.g., Linux and other] the difficulties in continuing 9X support would seem to be essentially non-existent. The *hooks* used for access in/to the various systems are known, and in 9X are unchanging. So the analogy being used to a car is not relevant... we aren't discussing an integral PART being supplied, but a third party add-on like a fur lined mirror or a set of fog lamps mounted under/on the bumper.. this shows more, a deliberate refusal to supply support, or more likely just plain laziness by the programmers, or as has been suggested, leverage supplied by some outside force.. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org a Peoples' counsel _ _ ~~ |
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