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First update of Win98SE questions.
I run linux at home for most stuff, but there are some sites that
require Windows-specific stuff. I'll be getting back on ADSL soon, hopefully in the next couple of weeks. The last 6 months on dialup was P_A_I_N_F_U_L_L after a couple of years on ADSL. On broadband, there's quite a bit of Windows-only multimedia available. Being the packrat that I am, I still have the original Win98SE install CD, the manual with the key, and a second-hand 400mhz Dell with 128 megs of RAM. After a few false starts, I solved the "CD not found" problem and got 98SE installed. Sound and network card were found automagically, and the 98SE box can talk to the linux box via a router. Chicken and Egg Problem ======================= The fresh out-of-the-box Win98SE is probably not safe to connect directly to the net without getting several security patches first. Microsoft's method of getting security patches requires connecting the machine to the net... what's wrong with this picture? My original intention was to... - download Win98 security patches to my linux machine - drop the dialup internet connection - use the Windows ftp client to download the patches from the linux box Let's just say that Microsoft seems to be extremely hostile to letting non-MS browsers download security patches. I managed to find a few of the patches, but I don't think it was anywhere near everything. My Plan B ========= The Netgear router has a telnet interface for firewall rules. I got it blocking ports 0..1023 inbound (TCP and UDP), as well as inbound syn-packets. I think that I can beef up security even more so that the initial update can be done safely. I need some additional info first... Questions, questions, questions =============================== 1) What is the domain name MS uses for running the Windows Update program? I'll put that domain in the "trusted zone" and all other zones will be locked down. I'll use Firefox for browsing. 2) Any recommendations for free spyware-defense and anti-virus? I do *NOT* intend to run *ANY* form of email client on this box, so that's one less item to worry about. I've already uninstalled Outlook Express. -- Walter Dnes; my email address is *ALMOST* like Delete the "z" to get my real address. If that gets blocked, follow the instructions at the end of the 550 message. |
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First update of Win98SE questions.
Once you have a functioning system, especially one close to a clean
install, do a full system backup. If you have multiple partitions, I guess a backup is a bit more complex. It depends upon the ties between the Registry & the other partitions, as to whether they must be backed up concurrently. Also, if you've changed the hardware since the backup, you may need to change it back before a restore. http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/index.html Backup & partitioning strategy http://home.wanadoo.nl/geurt/home.html Extended Operating System Loader http://powerquest.com/driveimage/ Drive Image http://www.acronis.com/products/trueimage/ TrueImage http://www.arjsoftware.com ARJ Archiver http://www.betterbackup.com/ Retrospect CD Backup http://www.bootitng.com/ 's BootIt NG, has a variety of backup capabilities: Copy to HDD, or Image to HDD or to CD. (TBIView, freely downloadable, can retrieve individual files from an Image.) Shrink/expand your partitions without data loss. Multi-boot, if you dare. Free, run from floppy, but pay up as I did if satisfied. To install & use beyond 30 days, $34.95. http://www.cdrfaq.org/ CD R/W Backup http://www.cyberiapc.com/backup.htm MyOwnBackup (MOB) (Free) http://www.han-soft.com/habt.php Auto Backup (30-day free trial) http://www.hp.com/cgi-bin/cposupport...&p=hpcdwriter2 Simple Backup http://www.karenware.com/ PtReplicator (Free) http://www.lifesaverbackup.com/ http://www.mvps.org/links.html Should have good info http://www.pcmag.com/ Lots & lots of sturdy downloads. There is a $20 yearly charge now. http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic Partition Magic http://www.ranish.com/part/ Ranish Partition Manager http://www.rescue-me.net/gold.html http://www.simtel.net/pub/dl/58307.shtml Backups http://www.stompinc.com/bump/bump_details.phtml?stp Backup MyPC http://www.thirdstar.net/thirdstar_datarecovery.htm Data recovery http://www.tomsterdam.com/ BU process, performance, etc. http://www.v-com.com/product/pc_ind.html Partition Commander http://www.veritas.com Backup apps http://www.xxcopy.com/ Detailed Procedure Copy (Free) http://www.zeleps.com/ Partition re-sizer (Free) All gathered at this site. Whichever you choose, approach it carefully and verify all is well. After making a copy, run Scandisk/Defrag on it. If it's an Image, use it's verify option; perhaps, restore it and do a Scandisk/Defrag. http://www.pchelpandconsulting.com/links/windows.html WinDrvExpert http://www.jermar.com/wdrvbck.htm WinDrvBckup free version Those last two supposedly back up all currently installed drivers, such that they can be reinstalled. I never tried it but have seen a favorable report. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Walter Dnes (delete the 'z' to get my real address)" wrote in message ... | I run linux at home for most stuff, but there are some sites that | require Windows-specific stuff. I'll be getting back on ADSL soon, | hopefully in the next couple of weeks. The last 6 months on dialup was | P_A_I_N_F_U_L_L after a couple of years on ADSL. On broadband, there's | quite a bit of Windows-only multimedia available. | | Being the packrat that I am, I still have the original Win98SE install | CD, the manual with the key, and a second-hand 400mhz Dell with 128 megs | of RAM. After a few false starts, I solved the "CD not found" problem | and got 98SE installed. Sound and network card were found | automagically, and the 98SE box can talk to the linux box via a router. | | | Chicken and Egg Problem | ======================= | | The fresh out-of-the-box Win98SE is probably not safe to connect | directly to the net without getting several security patches first. | Microsoft's method of getting security patches requires connecting the | machine to the net... what's wrong with this picture? | | My original intention was to... | - download Win98 security patches to my linux machine | - drop the dialup internet connection | - use the Windows ftp client to download the patches from the linux box | | Let's just say that Microsoft seems to be extremely hostile to letting | non-MS browsers download security patches. I managed to find a few of | the patches, but I don't think it was anywhere near everything. | | | My Plan B | ========= | | The Netgear router has a telnet interface for firewall rules. I got | it blocking ports 0..1023 inbound (TCP and UDP), as well as inbound | syn-packets. I think that I can beef up security even more so that the | initial update can be done safely. I need some additional info first... | | Questions, questions, questions | =============================== | 1) What is the domain name MS uses for running the Windows Update | program? I'll put that domain in the "trusted zone" and all other zones | will be locked down. I'll use Firefox for browsing. | | 2) Any recommendations for free spyware-defense and anti-virus? I do | *NOT* intend to run *ANY* form of email client on this box, so that's | one less item to worry about. I've already uninstalled Outlook Express. | | -- | Walter Dnes; my email address is *ALMOST* like | Delete the "z" to get my real address. If that gets blocked, follow | the instructions at the end of the 550 message. |
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First update of Win98SE questions.
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:01:16 -0400, PCR, wrote:
After the fresh install & perhaps prettying up a few settings, do a full system backup. This will protect you from most possible mishaps, including certain critical updates may not take well in your machine. I used an old copy of Partition Magic to make a hidden copy of the C: partition. If something goes drastically wrong, I'll be able to blow away the C:, and replace it with the clean one. Only problem is that I only have room for 2 C: backups on the 98SE machine, and it doesn't have a CD-burner. Thanks for the backup-solutions in your second post. But once I get back on broadband, I'll download and burn a Knoppix CD. I'll then be able to boot the Knoppix-linux CD on the 98SE machine, and copy over the raw partition image to the linux machine as a file. I'll be able to take snapshots of all the partitions and burn them to CD on my linux machine, as long as I keep each one below 700 megs. When you do connect to the WEB, you will not get a virus from just "START button, Windows Update". In that case, I may as well do the update online once I get broadband. The router is set to block anything inbound to ports 0..1023, so stuff aimed at ports 135, 137-139, 445, etc will be kept out. -- Walter Dnes; my email address is *ALMOST* like Delete the "z" to get my real address. If that gets blocked, follow the instructions at the end of the 550 message. |
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First update of Win98SE questions.
You are welcome. Looks like you have backup well under control, & that
is the most important thing. I have seen threads in which poster did a fresh install and was unable to connect to Windows Update. It may have involved other issues, though, such as the system date ended up off by months. Windows Update doesn't like that. However, the address of Windows Update did change. Therefore, that "Security Update CD" may be a starting point, if your machine can take it... http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp Security Update CD. (Also, I read, it requires just two reboots, where dozens may be done at Windows Update.) Or use the one that they all redirect to... http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp OK, then. -- Thanks or Good Luck, There may be humor in this post, and, Naturally, you will not sue, should things get worse after this, PCR "Walter Dnes (delete the 'z' to get my real address)" wrote in message ... | On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 18:01:16 -0400, PCR, wrote: | After the fresh install & perhaps prettying up a few settings, | do a full system backup. This will protect you from most possible | mishaps, including certain critical updates may not take well in | your machine. | | I used an old copy of Partition Magic to make a hidden copy of the C: | partition. If something goes drastically wrong, I'll be able to blow | away the C:, and replace it with the clean one. Only problem is that I | only have room for 2 C: backups on the 98SE machine, and it doesn't have | a CD-burner. | | Thanks for the backup-solutions in your second post. But once I get | back on broadband, I'll download and burn a Knoppix CD. I'll then be | able to boot the Knoppix-linux CD on the 98SE machine, and copy over the | raw partition image to the linux machine as a file. I'll be able to take | snapshots of all the partitions and burn them to CD on my linux machine, | as long as I keep each one below 700 megs. | | When you do connect to the WEB, you will not get a virus from just | "START button, Windows Update". | | In that case, I may as well do the update online once I get | broadband. The router is set to block anything inbound to ports | 0..1023, so stuff aimed at ports 135, 137-139, 445, etc will be kept | out. | | -- | Walter Dnes; my email address is *ALMOST* like | Delete the "z" to get my real address. If that gets blocked, follow | the instructions at the end of the 550 message. |
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